HAR_Flattire Posted Mar 7, 2010, 10:46 pm	By solo scout, does it mean one car on it's own or one person with multiple cars?
*Rezeak* reecestensel@hotmail.co.uk Posted Mar 7, 2010, 10:47 pm	one person, multiple cars. One car is a very bad idea
*Burden* Posted Mar 7, 2010, 10:59 pm	Unless you know what you're doing... and if you have an apache at the least. Even though Darthspanky used to solo with a single Antagonist o:
HAR_Flattire Posted Mar 7, 2010, 11:15 pm	Thanks. Although in some regards I don't see the difference between one player running 4 vehicles versus 4 different players running one vehicle each. That's why I was asking the general definition. Here I pictured some really good player scouting with one vehicle and blowing up everything in site.
Marrkos Posted Mar 7, 2010, 11:20 pm	It means either really. Primarily it means playing alone. Usually when people 'solo' it is with multiple vehicles, often not more than two. I solo with one, but that is not the norm.
*Rezeak* reecestensel@hotmail.co.uk Posted Mar 7, 2010, 11:23 pm	Yeah, only time I ever solo I go with a lone BPU in Tex or FL. But as markkos said, that is not the norm.
*Dark Tempest* Posted Mar 7, 2010, 11:50 pm	Most times I'll solo with 2 or 3 cars. My only car I go out with single is an ATG/GG Apache. I used to go out with a single GG/GG Windsor II a lot and just run until all but one NPC had auto escaped.
*Rezeak* reecestensel@hotmail.co.uk Posted Mar 8, 2010, 6:54 am	HAR_Flattire said: Thanks. Although in some regards I don't see the difference between one player running 4 vehicles versus 4 different players running one vehicle each. That's why I was asking the general definition. Here I pictured some really good player scouting with one vehicle and blowing up everything in site. The difference is that you get all the loot, so it's a good option if you're low on money
Flaming savage Posted Mar 8, 2010, 8:03 am	In ss I solo with 5 and in bl I solo with four. If your soloing in Bl bring at least two cars and lots of reloads. P.S. This is my 1001 time posting! Go me!
LoSboccacc Posted Mar 8, 2010, 8:38 am	*Burden* said: Even though Darthspanky used to solo with a single Antagonist o: seriously? wicked! I wonder how much skilled the gangers should be to pull off something like that. My second* best gunner is almost 30 and from a machine gun clip can hit two / three times. * the first one is actually dead.
Serephe Posted Mar 8, 2010, 8:46 am	You can solo with a rental antagonist and 2 fresh recruits quite easily. Good way to practice.
LoSboccacc Posted Mar 8, 2010, 9:12 am	which freshmen combo works best? scout+gunner 2*gunner other? and the strategy would be to run away until you have only one on your tail and then stand and fight?
Serephe Posted Mar 8, 2010, 9:33 am	Start off by running away until there's one left. Preferably nothing too big at first. Then get in close, stick your guns into its side and kill it. Gang member skill doesn't really matter. As you get more confident, start fighting the larger vehicles by themselves. Got that done ok? Ok, time to take 2 vehicles at once. You can probably eventually take 3-4 cars at once, if you spread them out a bit first. The antagonist is a very powerful vehicle that is underestimated by people far too often.
*Wolfsbane* Posted Mar 8, 2010, 9:34 am	Should probably add - expect to lose a couple of times, and don't take anyone you'll miss along
LoSboccacc Posted Mar 8, 2010, 9:44 am	by now I'm pretty used to lose people continuously I'll throw some unfortunate fella on an antag and see how quickly they die will be a good chance to cross train hand guns
HAR_Flattire Posted Mar 8, 2010, 9:21 pm	I didn't realise the run until one bad guy left thing worked. I just figured they kept chasing until you escape.
Fealty Lost Posted Mar 8, 2010, 9:32 pm	Solo's the way to go HAR'. I go out in SS with 8-10 vehicles, bring back about 7-8 loot cars, make about 60-100K off the loot cars. In BL, I go out with same: 8-10 normally. 15 if I can fill 'em. I started soloing Day 4: took out 4 Apaches. Lost 4 Apaches. Learned how to do FootSquads. Replenished Apaches, never looked back. Rarely group scout. Went every day solid for two months, 15 vehicle solo scouts. If you feel comfortable with one vehicle, take out 5. With unlimited solo-scout timeouts, you can take all the time you need to figure out where to go, what to shoot and where to run if need be. Get consistent 10-vehicle scouts in SS as soon as you can. Make some money! Oh, be prepared to, uh, spend some time.... Welcome to DW!
*Marc5iver* marcg@comcast.net Posted Mar 8, 2010, 9:55 pm	On a little smaller scale I go out with 2 apaches with HMG and CR front plus a Mercenary with rear paint gun and MMG. As DA mentioned, use the time outs to figure out where you want to go and get a plan in mind as soon as the event starts. Be flexible though in case things don't go quite as planned.
HAR_Flattire Posted Mar 8, 2010, 10:15 pm	Unfortunately, I have neither the apaches nor the cash to purchase one at this time. I have tried solo scouts with one car and even a 2 on 1 I get the first car demo'd and the second pretty beat up. If I could figure out when the second is actually running I think I could handle it no problem. Is there a message or just until one turns and runs off?
Marrkos Posted Mar 8, 2010, 10:28 pm	No, what they are referring to is the ability to use the Auto-Escape at 500+ meters to pare down the enemy. You run, and as they enemy gets split up the stragglers get beyond the 500 meter mark and Auto-Escape. When the number of remaining enemies is to your liking, you turn and engage. However, developer considers this to be a small exploit so AI has been getting better about staying together.
HAR_Flattire Posted Mar 8, 2010, 11:29 pm	I see. I was wondering because I was getting chased by 2 just playing around and got them split up simply because the one car was faster and the slower turned off pursuit so I beat up on the faster one after turning around and the slower car picked up pursuit again and I eventually had to run anyway.
theHumungous Posted Mar 9, 2010, 12:08 am	Not only that, but sometimes if one bad guy gets autoescaped, the other (say in the case of 2) sometimes will decide HE doesn't like the odds and will run. If he's at 350 there's a chance of him going poof. Happened to me last night. Sent the cars out, pared down the enemy, then, the two remaining said "Nah" and turned around. Took me too long to turn around and they vanished. Which, I have no problem with. lol. If I can run away, so can they.
Volvo_13 Posted Mar 10, 2010, 2:19 pm	Dude... I finally felt ready. S186910 and I was.. my Windsor 2 and my Pheonix against a Mulcher and an Battleaxe (pu & choper for us noobs). I ran up the road, figuring the P/U would outrun the chomper.... and it did. I savaged the pickup with a double team before the chomper even got to me. Too bad I destroyed the P/U's engine. Barely a scratch to me..... solo scouting is awesome!!! I just followed the basic advice, 1 muscle and 1 sedan. Luckily I have a lvl 58 scout from running mail between SS and GW and EL. Cheers.
HAR_Flattire Posted Mar 10, 2010, 3:34 pm	Cool Volvo! I tried the waters last night and got a 3 on 1 where I was the one. I saved my gangers but lost the car and the gangers won't be back for a day or so after 1 successful foot encounter. I think I am need of a better scout before moving forward again as that seems to impact the more favorable odds. So, I will build my scouting a bit before trying this again I think. Is there benefit to scouting hyenas, pirates or a specific group of pirates? Or, does it really matter?
simonmaxhill Posted Mar 10, 2010, 3:45 pm	HAR - you're almost always better off having two cars instead of one. A single car will run into CR minimums for encounters and also has tactical disadvantages. Gotta have a wingman!
*Dark Tempest* Posted Mar 10, 2010, 4:50 pm	Scout Hyena's until you can't. They don't spawn the tougher chassis types and are good to learn on. By the time you know how to scout good enough that they are easy the option to scout against them goes away.
HAR_Flattire Posted Mar 10, 2010, 5:16 pm	So, desert hyenas are easier than pirates? I was wondering what the difference was.