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darthspanky Posted Mar 23, 2013, 5:40 am |
2013-03-23 00:00:00
5 of your characters in Elmsfield were beaten up by local thugs *what kind of criminal town these guys in elms running, wonders the Emporor, where is the elmsfield militia keeping the riff raft out? then he remembers we slaughtered them a few times. maybe this place will become more like firelight* |
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Lord Foul Posted Mar 24, 2013, 1:24 am |
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1. Endurance (Somerset): $918. 2. Blood and Iron (Somerset): $516. 3. Special Circumstances (Shantyville): $340. 4. San Jose Baggers (Somerset): $288. 5. Roams Runners (Somerset): $203. 6. KLINGON GIRL SCOUTS (Somerset): $98. 7. Project 43 (Somerset): $67. 8. Lobotomizers (Gateway Truckstop): $63. 9. King of Clubs (Somerset): $54. 10. Raisers of Cain (Somerset): $52 6th and only $98? Damn darth, you need to step it up a notch. To many midget lap dances I think. 
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darthspanky Posted Mar 24, 2013, 1:56 am |
ooc well its bs to look on yer page and see 5 characters have taken dammage and theres nothing you can do about it, we walk around with weapons but 5 of my older most skilled female gangers get beat up thats total bull####, some were evben in rehab, why there in elms in first place, why not have them get raped as well, tota; bs to penalize a playstle, i bet if others had this #### happening in towns where pirates lived they wouldnt like it either, ill not be trying to get any more bountys because of this stupid crap | ||
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darthspanky Posted Mar 25, 2013, 8:59 am |
this is such f*cking bullsh*t, no way would i allow a bunch of thugs to beat up my leader, we are the damm thugs, we have ped weapons, this is utter crap imo, as soon as someone tried that crap they would get a bullet right in there f*cking head | ||
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Lee 337 Posted Mar 25, 2013, 10:35 am |
Happen to my guys in Elms too .... They swing so fast from love to hate.
*shrugs* |
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musashi_san Posted Mar 25, 2013, 1:15 pm |
really this does seem arbitrary, and totally unfair that you can't defend yourself. should instead be a scheduled in town ped combat, like a camp defense. that would not only be more fair, it sounds like a blast, not in the arena but in the town itself like the zombie events are. and high bounty gangs should have the numbers stacked against them.... |
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darthspanky Posted Mar 25, 2013, 2:00 pm |
well sam obviously doesnt care that his stupid rules totally limit a pirate type player from scouting, yeah its only minor injuries but i like to scout at full activity, very very frustrating to see that there beat up twice in 2 days, ive since only hunted pirates and im now actually liked by the civs still getting beat up, not everyone does this style of play so nobody really cares do that to everyone whose not liked by certain gangs and there be a large outrage i bet, whats the goal of all this to drive the pirate players out lol that wouldnt be so bad but you go to firelite a pirate town and cant buy anything that market totally sucks. | ||
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musashi_san Posted Mar 25, 2013, 2:30 pm |
yeah, it's also true that if you're a civ with a bounty in fl and you have chars in fl, this should happen to you too. also you're glads should be (more) mistreated, etc... equal opportunity... | ||
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Necrotech Posted Mar 25, 2013, 2:52 pm |
I say whatever polling the database is only taking the first 3 digits of a number ATM.
My Bounty in SS that that time was $5167 Now *ONLY* $4830 Meanwhile 12 of my guys got their @sses kicked, even though they are VERY proficient with SMG's and carry them at all times. Save for the Weasel.. he has a sword and a SMG.
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JS Posted Mar 25, 2013, 3:03 pm |
Who says your guys lost the fight? | ||
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PvtParty Posted Mar 25, 2013, 3:12 pm |
I've had guys beaten up in Elms too, when I had a bounty on my head.
I agree it would be better to have it played out as a ped event rather than some random background event, though I guess that could make it more likely that you'd get more serious injuries. Once Sam fixes the melee weapon bug which prevents you from moving away from a target once engaged*, I'd be happy to have it as a melee-only combat, with reduced chance of ganger death, but the possibility of dishing out a little hurt of our own. * This bug will need fixing before Into The Ruins becomes viable... |
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Necrotech Posted Mar 25, 2013, 3:18 pm |
Simple.... especially in my case... the town bounty would go up even further.
I would have a pile of bodies around my mercs and not a scratch on them.
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darthspanky Posted Mar 25, 2013, 3:41 pm |
can gangers do fistfights? ive never tried? | ||
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PvtParty Posted Mar 26, 2013, 12:18 pm |
You can do melee attacks. If you don't have a weapon it'll be a fist fight won't it?
---- Jeez, I should keep my mouth shut - this happened overnight: 2013-03-26 00:00:00 1 of your characters in Firelight was beaten up by local thugs |
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darthspanky Posted Mar 27, 2013, 2:53 am |
sorry to see that what did you do to deserve that? i had a bounty so i can understand why i did, but you dont? | ||
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*Bastille* Posted Mar 27, 2013, 4:41 am |
I think you can get beaten up for being in poor liking with the town faction. I remember being beaten up even when I didn't have a bounty, but I could be wrong. that would back up what happened to PvT I guess and show thats it maybe not so unfair.
I don't think this wrongly penalizes a pirates play style. Rub people the wrong way - get shock. I find it a suitable and welcome reaction to this play style. |
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darthspanky Posted Mar 27, 2013, 1:25 pm |
well imo it is, the one place that is pirate friendly has a very crappy market, im legendary and honored in fl and cant buy anything in damm markets, the markets used to be alot better. | ||
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*Awefense* Posted Mar 27, 2013, 3:46 pm |
I had 7 gangers get a thrashing in Somerset after my performance in the last Lorry race. The folks weren't very happy with my gang at all!
A couple of them were pretty beat down and had to be hospitalized. I just laughed and accepted it as part of this great game of Darkwind. |
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darthspanky Posted Mar 27, 2013, 6:03 pm |
there are other ways to deal with what you did, could put bounties hunters on you, militia on returns, you get to fight back on those, or raise yer gate fees, imo its not a great game when yer automatically screwed by the choices you make, i will just have to play in a way that avoids it, and its not the way i would choose to play the game, because of the stupid rules. | ||
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*Bastille* Posted Mar 28, 2013, 12:24 am |
There are other ways to deal with it, but its the not being able to defend that I like about this. BHs, Militia, gate fees; you can prepare for and with experience can nearly always be overcome. (although with a high bounty any gang would send you straight to the pits, which is almost always a worse outcome than a bar fight just on rad poisoning, which I think is more likely to adjust your PCs health longterm)
Its an unavoidable consequence that adds some flavour to the story, and as mentioned previously by another above, much less dangerous than having a ped fight or chance to fight it out. also, the only melee animation is a kick, to memory, and that would look silly, everyone kicking each other in the nuts. some more melee combat moves, a chance to parry, the ability to wield poles and broken bottles, and the melee bug fixed and then maybe a bar fight would be ok |
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darthspanky Posted Mar 28, 2013, 1:39 am |
well i came back not to be constantly pissed off by new rules i dont like nor agree with, i really dont give a crap what others think about this rule, nor thier justification for it, to me its bs and always will be bs, but i dont have a choice its sams game and if he wants to add crap that pisses off his subscriber base then fine, i wouldnt be the first vet to leave on those conditions, ill have to consider that next time my sub is up, until then i will play the way as to not get beat up, which means not playing the prefered way i want, because it pisses me off not being able to do anything about it. |