*sam* Posted Mar 19, 2021, 6:45 pm	I have turn-based physics plus the ghost car system working nicely in Unity. With better physics than Torque could manage :-) https://www.dark-wind.com/DWRPG/DW_RPG_1.mp4
Smooch Posted Mar 19, 2021, 7:09 pm	I see tractor trailers in the bakcground.
Smooch Posted Mar 19, 2021, 7:09 pm	oh yeah, and it looks great.
FireFly Posted Mar 19, 2021, 7:55 pm	*sam* said: I have turn-based physics plus the ghost car system working nicely in Unity. With better physics than Torque could manage :-) https://www.dark-wind.com/DWRPG/DW_RPG_1.mp4 Cool to see it's happening! I have but one question tho, with the engine swap (ha!) has evan finally discovered the secrets of RWD?
Groovelle Posted Mar 19, 2021, 8:54 pm	I will petition the prime president of your country to detain at will you if there is no multiplayer and motorcycles.
*Longo* Posted Mar 19, 2021, 8:58 pm	Looks awesome!
*Rev. V* Posted Mar 20, 2021, 1:57 am	Hellll yeah!!!!!
Zazul Posted Mar 20, 2021, 8:35 am	Good stuff!
Tez Posted Mar 20, 2021, 9:29 am	But can it handle 2 wheeled vehicles...
JuJu Crow Posted Mar 20, 2021, 9:39 am	Oh Yeah Baby!!! Sweet :-)
*sam* Posted Mar 20, 2021, 9:51 am	Smooch said: I see tractor trailers in the bakcground.  Yep, and finally the technology to articulate two separate rigid bodies. I guess these would only drive on the decent roads, i.e SS to GW and BL to SF.
*sam* Posted Mar 20, 2021, 9:54 am	Groovelle said: I will petition the prime president of your country to detain at will you if there is no multiplayer and motorcycles. It's gonna be (primarily) singleplayer. Skirmish-type multiplayer is a possibility. Motorcycles.. I will investigate.  Your threats about the Irish president do not scare me, however
Groovelle Posted Mar 21, 2021, 2:15 am	I trust your judgement.
Brun Posted Mar 21, 2021, 12:41 pm	*sam* said: Groovelle said: I will petition the prime president of your country to detain at will you if there is no multiplayer and motorcycles. It's gonna be (primarily) singleplayer. What do you mean by Singleplayer? I thought singleplayer games means solo, linear, story driven games?
*sam* Posted Mar 22, 2021, 5:17 pm	Brun said: *sam* said: Groovelle said: I will petition the prime president of your country to detain at will you if there is no multiplayer and motorcycles. It's gonna be (primarily) singleplayer. What do you mean by Singleplayer? I thought singleplayer games means solo, linear, story driven games? Yeah, the plan is for it to be solo and with a story-driven campaign (which will involve sandbox/open-world play too). It will still be first-and-foremost a turn-based tactical game; the story is secondary to this.  We're going for the same sort of approach as Battletech.
Joel Autobaun Posted Mar 22, 2021, 11:46 pm	That man is your Prez? Truly the Irish are capable of anything.
*sam* Posted Mar 23, 2021, 9:24 am	Joel Autobaun said: That man is your Prez?  Truly the Irish are capable of anything. Yep. He's actually great - an intellectual/poet is a great figurehead for the Island of Saints and Scholars.  The president role in Ireland is largely symbolic, he doesn't have an active political role. But a few more countries I could mention would do well being lead by such a learned type.
Brun Posted Mar 23, 2021, 9:54 am	*sam* said: Joel Autobaun said: That man is your Prez?  Truly the Irish are capable of anything. Yep. He's actually great - an intellectual/poet is a great figurehead for the Island of Saints and Scholars.  The president role in Ireland is largely symbolic, he doesn't have an active political role. But a few more countries I could mention would do well being lead by such a learned type. I thought Leprechauns were green?!
Brun Posted Mar 23, 2021, 4:09 pm	*sam* said: Irish Prez- "Are we wife-swapping tonight Wills?" Prince William- "Not bloody likely, and if you don't get that wonky candlestick fixed, I'll tell Granny to bring back the Potato Tax" Irish Prez- "How the Feck do you think I can reach up there?" Prince William- "And it better not be Corned Beef and Cabbage again tonight!" Kate- "Stop talking to the butler Willie- it's very bad form"
Brun Posted Mar 23, 2021, 4:55 pm	Or.... Irish Prez- "Sorry to hear about your Uncle getting caught on that Island F****** kids" Prince William- "Wait till they find out Daddy was popping over there too! And why do you think Harry buggered off?!" Kate-" I told you to never mention him or that LYING BITCH again!" Irish Prez's wife- "Oh Bejesus! I remember now! They said definately NOT to wear any orange on St Patricks day"
Groovelle Posted Apr 6, 2021, 2:33 am	Leave the Irish Prez out of this. Unless Sam takes away the ability to post a sniper on a hill off the back of this Then we get him involved.
Nekojin Posted Jul 18, 2021, 8:45 pm	Loving the look of the Unity sample, Sam.
*sam* Posted Jul 23, 2021, 11:05 am	Thanks Neko! We're working towards a kickstarter for this. Definitely thinking of putting pvp challenge options into it, btw.
Pines Posted Jul 28, 2021, 5:46 pm	Looks really cool. Looking forward to seeing DW2 come to life. I understand it's primarily going to be a single player game with possible PVP elements, Will there be multiplayer PVE like in the game we have now? I prefer solo scouts, but occasionally do like to have company.
*sam* Posted Jul 28, 2021, 6:37 pm	Thanks! Yes, PvP and PvE are within scope. What I want to avoid is making another persistent-world/MMO game with the huge baggage that brings. I have a bunch of stretch goals worked out for the kickstarter.
*Rev. V* Posted Jul 29, 2021, 1:32 am	We are kinda fond of the baggage though....
*sam* Posted Jul 29, 2021, 1:58 pm	*Rev. V* said: We are kinda fond of the baggage though.... Yeah, I know (and the MMO model does have its strengths)  :-) I don't want to remake the same game, I want it to be a bit different and hopefully a bit less niche and definitely more polished. Thus.. keep the scope more manageable.
Dropdeadfred Posted Aug 6, 2021, 11:44 am	*sam* said: *Rev. V* said: We are kinda fond of the baggage though.... Yeah, I know (and the MMO model does have its strengths)  :-) I don't want to remake the same game, I want it to be a bit different and hopefully a bit less niche and definitely more polished. Thus.. keep the scope more manageable. Ah, but it definitely could be 'roughly' the same game, with a modern game engine and all of the extras bells and whistles that it brings. A lot of the same things that gave Darkwind all of the hugely positive reviews and such that scroll by on the website still exist.  How many turn based car games are out there?  Out of those, how many give as much customization as to what DW gives? I'm imagining Darkwind, jumped up to a much more modern style, thinking some XCom 2 type of combat mechanics (Cover, overwatch, etc), turned up to 11, without the grid.  Eve Online/Albion Online style of economy (Both have STRONG player-run economies).  The list goes on and on. Sam, I have Unity and C# experience.  Color me very interested, if you're looking for help.
Iron Wraith Posted Aug 27, 2021, 8:40 am	I'd just be happy to have Darkwind as is but running on a single machine for single player mode. I can already wait out indefinitely solo (so I can fit the game in when I have time rather than having to play to other peoples schedules). Hell is other people The AI is already good enough for me (and I suspect the majority of noobs). If that was tweaked as a regular patch as time went on (or could use machine learning to counter player tactics) then that would be a bonus. The ability to conduct camp activity without the politics would be good. I'd like to be able to operate in an economy that was based on supply and demand rather than player caprice. Frankly I'd be happy to have the "trading" element removed entirely. I can ship freight/mail from town to town to make a profit rather than buying in one town to sell in another (which is really hard to make work). As long as I can buy components, supplies for my people and any camps I might build and fix stuff I don't need an economy. Make stuff different prices in different towns for colour by all means, but keeping it simple will result in less economy exploiting. An uplift to the game engine would be nice (and the Unity demo looks very tidy). The ability to play with a friend in arena style events (so the rest of the game world would remain a local instance) would satisfy my occasional desire to play with other people. We used to be able to challenge other players to "pink-slip" one-on-one events outside the walls of Somerset as well as in town arenas which would be a welcome addition. The ability to properly "way path" other vehicles would be handy as currently I can't get anyone I escort to do anything other than drive to their deaths. That would make multi-vehicle solos more enjoyable. Sand box definitely. The training missions, regular missions and mail runs gave me enough story (they are ways of generating income and experience, not the goal of the game in my view). Occasional special missions of the type that gave occasional bonus rare equipment would be helpful but not essential. Bikes and Lorries can remain expansions in my mind (other than possibly as NPCs). Lorries are something for camp owners and that is because camps are factories. I am not sure why they exist so far from towns that they need them (as this goes against the logic of bandit infested hinterlands). The main things for me is to be able to buy it once and play it to death. The current subscription model is a real turn off. I'd be happy with the option of buying DLC - maybe in the basic game you get SS, GW and EL and the maps between them. Other towns and the trade options could be DLCs. I could then exhaust the options in the "beginner towns" before upgrading to the harder towns when I have skilled gangers. Camps could also be DLC. This model has kept me spending on the Fallout series for the last several years. It doesn't feel like pay-to-win. I know these aren't the bits that hardcore PVP players want, but they already have Scav for that (assuming they even play it). I think the numbers show that isn't the route to mainstream adoption (and that is what might bring people to the on-line game). Looking forward to the Kickstarter.
*sam* Posted Aug 27, 2021, 4:54 pm	Thanks everyone, your support is important to me :-) No-one understands turn-based physics-controlled car combat as well as DW players. We've been making some nice progress with the campaign story, concept art and initial maps by the way. I'm itching to show stuff, but it's best to wait until the kickstarter page is ready.
*Ninesticks* Posted Aug 27, 2021, 7:49 pm	Any updates on progress at all Sam? As per the previous comments, it certainly looks promising.
Clocky Posted Dec 26, 2021, 12:31 am	Whoa holy crap.. Dark-Wind 2 is in the works? I hope you can make the truck trailers be repaintable and maybe keep flatnose semi along with that new longnose one for that extra variety  . Desires aside, I hope this project is finished in the near future, as I cannot express how fun the current game is. For a cool idea, it could get a mode where people can create their own matches kind of like the TACTICAL mode, but in real time (like, you could join mid-event and still manage to play). Maybe it could get an adjustable pre-game countdown for people to start making their builds, also they would only control a single vehicle instead of tactical's multiple vehicle team battle, along with a preset CR limit. If no players were to join during the countdown, AI opponents could spawn, showing the match's host a slider to choose wether to use preset Gang\Faction builds, allow total randomization, or maybe allow the AI to randomize ignoring any rules the host set, leading to one team full of bots with powerful weapons, and another with all the host's match limitations, like weapon, vehicle bans, skill limits and stuff of the sort. It would be super fun to join an active TDM or DM-like match, create a build, chassis, weapons, preset Armor Point limit, random character stats\stats limited to current vehicle's weapon types equipped, along with a stat limit, AND weapon ban (ex: no Mounted Mortars allowed, no Tank Guns allowed, no HLs, etc. or maybe only allow the player to use weapons\chassis they currently own in their gang, but they won't be actually using their own resources for the battle.) then spawn in a team base and manage to battle agaisnt one another. Maybe it could have a CTF mode with weapons on\off, vehicle bans, and stuff like that. Heck, it could even be CTF with real pedestrians with weapons. Imagine if you could have team flag locations scattered throughout the map, with bases being placed randomly, too. Or maybe maybe a gamemode similiar to Carmageddon Reincarnation's Fox n' Hounds, that's like playing tag, and the car that stays the longest without being touched wins the match. That'd be super fun, too. Of course, I'm just really brainstorming ideas over here. One of my workmates gifted me an Unity development course for christmas, so of course I'm pretty interested in this type of thing. But whatever you do, Sam, keep on developing Dark-Wind 2. Even if it doesn't have the ideas we wanted, we would definitely play it either way. Can't wait to see how the final project looks like.
Wooj Posted Apr 27, 2022, 12:41 am	My Kickstarter Policy for the past 5 years: I will never put money into a kickstarter. My Kickstarter Policy after seeing this thread 5 min ago: I will never put money into a kickstarter, with one exception.
RANXEROX Posted Apr 28, 2022, 10:18 am	nice to see this dark game getting a second wind
RANXEROX Posted May 4, 2022, 1:41 am	Turrets?
Bigbadgreen86 Posted May 4, 2022, 11:10 pm	RANXEROX said: Turrets? Tourette Syndrome?  Making the NPC's all swear without reason or need?  What is the need for that?
Ivan Kerensky Posted Jun 29, 2022, 12:26 pm	Very good news, I hope it is still getting developped. The focus on single player isn't too bad. Especially if you can have multiplayer leagues and competitions like with Blood Bowl...