New NPC Vehicles
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Jansan Posted Apr 15, 2008, 8:54 pm |
There may already be a thread for this, but I couldn't find it. And it might be time for a new one anyway.
Suggest some new NPC vehicles for fun! Rare or common, try to include less-used chassis and weapons so we can see some variety on the field. I put some ideas below. Some are just fun things I thought of that may or may not work well, some I've used myself. I'll put other people's ideas in too to keep the list up to date. Easy Reading Link: http://www.dark-wind.com/forums2/index.php?a=topic&t=3809&min=0&num=15 NEW CAR BUILDS Name: 57 Custom Chassis: Fiftyseven Rarity: Very Rare Weapons: Rear Flamethrowers Armor: Whatever works, mostly on the back though. Tires: ? Engine: 3.2l V8 Characters: 2 Notes: Modified just like it would have been in the days of old with a V8, and a flamethrower in the exhaust, except this one isn't cosmetic! Name: Alley Oop Chassis: Voyager Rarity: Common Weapons: Mounted Ram and Rocket Launcher front, Flechette and Small Rocket rear, Mini Rocket L/R Armor: 20/16/16/18/4/6 Tires: Reinforced Engine: 3.2L Characters: 2 Notes: Room for 1 RL reload. With a rocket launcher, a good engine, and a ram plate, this car has a good chance of flipping light vehicles. Submitted by Victor. Name: Alpha Hardware Chassis: Alpha Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Front Gatling Gun, Front MiniRocket Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: 1L Characters: 2 Notes: Toughest Alpha ever. Name: Apprentice Chassis: Windsor II Rarity: Rare Weapons: Laser + MG Front / Roll cage fitted Armor: 25/20/22/22/5/6 Tires: Standard Engine 3.2v8 Characters: 2 Note:. I know this all fits because i have a setup exactly like this on one of my win2s. Submitted by Kazzy. Name: Arbalest (Trader Version) Chassis: Box Van Rarity: Uncommon or Rare, you choose Weapons: Mounted Mortar + Heavy GG Rear, Paint sprays on sides, Reinforced Ram Front Armor: 22/24/20/20/5/5 Tires: Reinforced Engine 3.2v8 Characters: 3 Note: If theres enough room, maybe a rollcage and a smokescreen on front can be fit. Pirate version would have Mortar and Heavy GG front and possibly a heavy smokescreen rear. Submitted by Kazzy. Name: Beeper Chassis: Roadrunner Rarity: Very Rare Weapons: Front Machine Gun, Rear Gatling Gun, Side Light Rockets Armor: Balanced Tires: Racing/Standard Engine: Max Considering Weapons Characters: 1-2 Notes: I have no idea how this thing drives, but from what I understand its fast. So this way it can strafe with rear and front guns. Name: Bite & Chomp Chassis: Chomper Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: MMG+GG both Front and Rear Armor: 25/25/25/25/5/7 Tires: OR Engine 2.5 Characters: 2 Notes: Submitted by Parduz. Name: Burnout Chassis: McKenzie Rarity: Very Rare Weapons: Front Machine Gun, Rear Heavy Rocket Armor: Balanced Tires: Racing/Standard Engine: Max Considering Weapons Characters: 1-2 Notes: Speedy attack vehicle. Name: Buster Cannon Chassis: Buzzer Rarity: Rare Weapons: Twin Car Cannons front, GG on sides Armor: 38/32/34/34/7/7 Tires: Reinforced Engine 3.2v8 Characters: 3 Note: Submitted by Kazzy. Name: Catch Me! Chassis: Chomper Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: 2xMMG rear, Nitro Booster Left and Right Armor: 20/28/26/26/5/7 Tires: OR Engine 3.2v8 Characters: 2 Note: A Fast, boosted Chomper, with a good amount of damage. Maybe a good trader escort vehicle. Submitted by Parduz. Name: Clinical Death Chassis: Ambulance Rarity: Rare/Very Rare Weapons: Front Radar Guided Missiles, Front Rocket Launcher, Rear Flaming Oil Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Standard Engine: Max Considering Weapons Characters: 3+ Notes: A rocket-heavy ambulance. Can you imagine getting shot by that? Name: Compass Chassis: Estate Rarity: Common Weapons: 2xMMG front, MG left right & rear Armor: 18/16/16/16/3/3 Tires: Standard Engine: 1.8L Characters: 3 Note: That's 360° of fire, for those of you who rode in one of these to school for Geometry! Submitted by Eddy. Name: Dead Man's Party Chassis: Hearse Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Dual Front Medium Machine Guns, Side Smoke, Side Paint, Rear Spike Dropper, Rear Oil Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: Whatever Fits Characters: Whatever Fits Notes: Who could ask for more? It seems really versatile with a strong front attack, and the hearse has good armor. My only concern is if the enemy could use it correctly. Name: Desert Ghost Chassis: Spirit Rarity: Common Weapons: Dual Front Medium Machine Guns, Dual Side Smokescreens Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Standard Engine: 2L Characters: 2 Notes: This is based on a design used, the smokescreens are extra. I like to keep maximum passenger room but the NPCs never do. I added the smokescreens to make this more of a defensive car and since the spirit handles exceptionally well but has problems accelerating. Name: DeVillian Chassis: DeVille Rarity: Very Rare Weapons: Dual Front Machine Guns, Nitro Armor: Balanced Tires: Racing/Standard Engine: Max Considering Weapons Characters: 1-2 Notes: This cars really fast, again assuming an NPC doesn't crash it, it'd be a great hit and run vehicle. Name: Dreadnought Chassis: Buzzer Rarity: Rare Weapons: Gatling Guns Every Slot Armor: Balanced Tires: Reinforced Engine: 5L (?) Characters: 6 Note: A rapid-firing combat vehicle capable of discharging a frightening amount of bullets. Submitted by madmax, design based on one of Latte's vehicles. Name: Driving Hazard Chassis: Estate Rarity: Common Weapons: Dual Rear Spikes, Dual Front Medium Machine Guns Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Standard Engine: Whatever Fits Characters: 3-4 Note: Guns and spikes. Should work in theory. Name: Eighty-Eight Chassis: McFly Rarity: Very Rare Weapons: Dual Front Machine Guns, Rear Nitro Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Racing/Standard Engine: 3.2L-4L Characters: 2 Notes: Given I've never driven one of these, I'm assuming it can go pretty fast with the 3.2 or 4L given its weight. Name: Evan Mafia Chassis: Mercenary Rarity: Common Weapons: 2 MMG Front Armor: 20/15/15/12/4/4 Tires: Standard Engine: 3.2L Characters: 2 Note: Assault sedan. Submitted by Eddy. Name: Exxon-Valdez (Assuming they can't sue for using it) Chassis: Windsor Rarity: Common Weapons: Rear Oil, Front Heavy Machine Gun Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Standard Engine: Max Non-Exposed Characters: 2 Notes: Oil and guns, classic Spy Hunter combination. Name suggested by JD. Name: Firestorm Chassis: Big Pickup Rarity: Common/Uncommon Weapons: 2 front Heavy Flamers. Armor: Front Heavy Tires: Reinforced(?) Engine: 4l engine Characters: 2 Note: A heavy flamethrower pickup. Submitted by madmax. Name: Flash And Burn Chassis: Flash Rarity: Rare Weapons: Front Machine gun, Rocket Booster Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Racing/Standard Engine: Max Considering Bulk Characters: 1 (Likely all that would fit) Notes: As long as the NPC doesn't frickin' crash it, it'd be a really nasty hit-and-run car. Name: Flux Capacitor Chassis: McFly Rarity: Very Rare Weapons: Dual Front Medium Machine Guns Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: 3.2L-4L Characters: 2 Notes: A dual medium machine gun enforcer McFly! Design suggested by madmax. Name: Fire Hazard Chassis: Firetruck Rarity: Very Rare Weapons: Dual Rear Heavy Flaming Oils, Front Heavy Flamer (Maybe two), Side Regular Flamers Armor: Balanced Tires: Reinforced Engine: Whatever Works Characters: 4+ Notes: Most fire ever. Name: Grenadier Chassis: Semi-Tractor Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Dual Front Car Grenade Launchers Armor: Heavy Front, Decent Bottom Tires: Reinforced Engine: Big One Characters: 3 (I believe it seats 3) Note: This chassis isn't used very often, but it seems stable and tough so this may be a good weapon choice. Name: Gypsy Chassis: Bus Rarity: Rare Weapons: Front:Reinforced Ram, ATG. Each side:1 Hvy Rocket. Rear: 2 Radar Guided Missiles Armor: 35/35/28/28/7/7 Tires: Reinforced Engine: 7L Characters: 3 Note: You don't want to follow this trader....might be one you want to let go! Submitted by Longo. Name: Halfbreed Chassis: Apache Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Front Heavy Gatling Gun, Front Gatling Gun Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Offroad Engine: Max Unexposed Characters: 3 Note: A tough offroad vehicle with gatling gun fun. Submitted by madmax. Name suggested by JD. Name: Interceptor Rarity: Common Chassis: Sunrise Weapons: Hmg front mounted, front spikes (maybe some one shot rockets if there is room) Armor: Heavy front armor, weaker rear. Tires: Standard(?) Engine: 4l engine (maybe something similiar but rarer with a 3.l2v8?) Characters: 2 Note: Just like the name says. Submitted by madmax. Name: Junkyard Chassis: Estate Rarity: Common Weapons: Front Spikes, Front Gatling Gun, Side Heavy Smoke, Side Heavy Rocket, Rear Heavy Oil Armor: Max Front, Balanced Rest Tires: Reinforced Engine: 2L Characters: 2-3 Notes: A smoking, junk-laden death mobile. Name: Knuckle Duster Chassis: Dustup Rarity: Common/Uncommon Weapons: Front Gatling Gun Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Offroad Engine: ? Characters: 1-2 (2 if the car holds it, I don't know) Notes: I've only used the dustup a little, but it seems like a great offroad car. Name: Laser Rondo Chassis: Semi-Tractor Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Dual Front Heavy Lasers, Dual Side Lasers Armor: Balanced Tires: Reinforced Engine: Big One Characters: 2-3 Note: Reduce the heavy lasers to regular if a satisfactory engine cannot be obtained with the heavys. Name: Laserstorm Chassis: Stormer Rarity: Rare/Very Rare Weapons: Front Heavy Laser Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: Max Considering Weapons Characters: 1-2 Notes: Put on the 3D shades, it's laser time. Name: Lucerne Hammer Chassis: Moose Rarity: Common Weapons: Front Gatling Gun, Front Spikes, Rear Car Rifle (Add another rear car rifle if room is available) Armor: 20/18/18/18/5/5 Tires: Standard Engine: 2.5L Characters: 2-3 Notes: Armor destroying Moose. Name: Mean Machine Chassis: Big Pickup Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Reinforced Ram + Mounted Spikes front, 1 Heavy GG on each side Armor: 24/23/27/27/5/6 Tires: OR Engine 3.2v8 Characters: 3 Note: Additional gg on each side if theres room. If not then a Heavy or Med rocket instead. Submitted by Kazzy. Name: Mega Bomb Chassis: Lorry Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Dual Rear Mine Droppers, Two Side Car Grenade Launchers, Two Side Smokes Screens, Front Mounted Mortar, Front Heavy Gatling Gun Armor: Heavy Front/Sides, Decent Bottom Tires: Reinforced Engine: 8L Characters: 4+ Note: Lots of explosions. Name: Metal Inferno Chassis: Moose Rarity: Common Weapons: Heavy Flamer front, Heavy Flaming Oil back Armor: 22/17/17/22/3/3 Tires: Standard Engine: 2L Characters: 1 Notes: Lots of fire. Submitted by Eddy. Name: Mini Sniper Chassis: Cardona Rarity: Common Weapons: Front Car Rifle Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Standard Engine: Max Non-Exposed Characters: 1-2 Notes: A small, squirrely sniper car. Name: Mountain Cat Chassis: Cougar Rarity: Rare/Very Rare Weapons: Dual Front Machine Guns Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Racing/Standard Engine: Max Considering Weapons Characters: 2 Notes: Killer sports car! Name: Mutant Master Chassis: Pickup Rarity: Common Weapons: Dual Front Radar Guided Missiles, Dual Side Machine Guns Armor: As Other Mutant Models Tires: As Other Mutant Models Engine: As Other Mutant Models Characters: 2 Note: The biggest of rocket trucks! I hate myself for even suggesting this. Name: Mutant Maxx Chassis: Big Pickup Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Mortar front, CGL front, MMG each side Armor: 28/26/26/23/6/6 Tires: Offroad Engine: 4L Characters: 3 Note: Great for chasing down fleeing traders! Submitted by Eddy. Name: Mutant Menace Chassis: Pickup Rarity: Common Weapons: Front CGL, Front CGL, Left MG, Right MG Armor: 18/12/14/14/12/14 Tires: Offroad Engine: 2L Characters: 2 Note: Another off roader with maximum bang for minimal buck, this indirect fire weapon turns the tables on those slow Mortar Lorries with a dose of their own high angle medicine. Submitted by Seiler. Name: Mutant Rustler Chassis: Pickup Rarity: Uncommon/Rare Weapons: Heavy Car Rifle & Vehic. Shotty front, L&R Light rocket Armor: 16/14/14/16/4/4 Tires: Offroad Engine: 3.2L Characters: 2 Notes: Deadly heavy sniper pickup with people-killing shotgun. Submitted by Eddy. Name: Needler Chassis: Moose Rarity: Common Weapons: Dual Front Gatling Guns Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Standard Engine: 2.5L Characters: 3 Notes: This is a very effective design, I use it myself in addition to dual mounted machine gun variations. This ones better at close range, the machine gun variation works better at medium ranges. Name: Nightmare Chassis: Bus Rarity: Rare Weapons: Front:Reinforced Ram, Car Cannon. Each side:1 Hvy Rocket, 1 MG. Rear: 2 HMG Armor: 35/35/28/28/7/7 Tires: Reinforced Engine: 5LV8 Characters: 4 Note: Optional Roll Cage. Big Combat Vehicle. Submitted by Longo. Name: Oil Can Chassis: Windsor II Rarity: Common Weapons: Rear Oil, Front Medium Machine Gun Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Standard Engine: Max Non-Exposed Characters: 2 Notes: Similiar to the Exxon, but reduced gun for more speed/less recoil considering the smaller weight. Name: Overture Chassis: Symphony Rarity: Common Weapons: RL Front, 5 Heavy rockets Armor: 21/14/14/14/3/6(bottom) Tires: Reinforced Engine: 2L Characters: 2 Notes: Rocket-filled symphony. Submitted by Eddy. Name: PBR "Streetgang" (Patrol Boat Rig) ((From "Apocalypse Now")) Chassis: Lorry Rarity: Rare Weapons: Hgat and HMG front and back / MMG and Gat sides Armor: Moderate all around. Tires: Reinforced Engine: 8L Characters: Up to 7, with double reloads on all weapons Note: With well skilled gunners manning the weapons, there is not much that can withstand an encounter with the 'Streetgang'. Proven design. - Submitted by JD. Name: Pincushion Chassis: Box Van Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Dual Rear Spike Droppers, Full Side Machine Guns, Front Medium Machine Guns Armor: Heavy Front/Medium Sides Tires: Standard Engine: Max Unexposed Characters: Full Load Note: Balanced box van build with guns on every side. Name: Pocket Laser Chassis: Raccoon Rarity: Common Weapons: Front Laser Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: 1L Characters: 1 Notes: Agile laser subcompact. Name: Pocket Rockets Chassis: Apache Weapons: HGG + RL front, MG rear, Medium Rocket on each side Armor: Balanced Tires: Reinforced Engine 4L Characters: 3 Note: For Combat Events. Theres also room for 1 HGG and RL reloads. Submitted by Kazzy. Name: Public Domination Chassis: Bus Rarity: Uncommon/Rare Weapons: Front Reinforced Ram, Front Mounted Mortar, Dual Rear Oils, 4x Side Medium Machine Guns Armor: Heavier Front/Sides Tires: Reinforced Engine: 7L Characters: If the NPCs are going to employ troop-deployment tactics when peds are in wilderness, lots. Otherwise, maybe 4. Notes: I went with oil to help throw any following shooters off mark, but you could use other dropped weapons here. MIght be good for ramming and strafing. Name: Puncture Wounds Chassis: Moray Rarity: Uncommon/Rare Weapons: Front Spikes, Front Gatling Gun, Rear Nitro Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: Max Considering Weapons Characters: 1-2 Notes: Similiar to some of the vampire models, but with nitro and gatling gun. Name: Pureblood Injun Chassis: Apache Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: 2 Gats front 2 gats Rear Armor: Front max / Back Max / Sides 28 / Top 5 Bottom 5 Tires: Offroad / Reinforced Engine: 4L or 3.2LV8 Characters: 4 or more depending on reloads Note: My "4gat Punisher" is a proven killer! The gats short range means using well skilled characters to asure good first hits to keep the npc's missing their shots. Proven design. - Submitted by JD. Name: Purple Haze, possibly Pink Haze or Fuschia Haze Chassis: Lorry Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Heavy Smokescreen/Heavy Paint Spray each side, Dual Front Heavy Gatling Guns, Dual Rear Mortars Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: 8L Characters: 4+ Note: With this much smoke and paint, it should be easy to cause confusion and dual heavy gatling the opposition. Names suggested by JD and myself. Name: Queen's Sniper Chassis: Marley Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Front Car Rifle Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: Max Unexposed Characters: 1-2 Notes: The marley version of a tiny sniper car. Suggested by madmax. Name: Radiation Burn Chassis: Box Van Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Front Heavy Flamer, Front Heavy Smoke, Dual Side Mounted Heavy Paint Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: Max Unexposed Characters: 4 Note: Use the smoke to get close, than spray with paint and flames. Name: Rattlesnake Chassis: Dustup Rarity: Common Weapons: Front Vehic. Shotgun Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Offroad Engine: 1.2L Characters: 1 Notes: Shotgun dustup. Submitted by Eddy. Name: Red Hot Chassis: Hotrod Rarity: Rare/Very Rare Weapons: Front Machine Gun, Dual Rear Light Rockets, Front Spikes Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Racing/Standard Engine: Max Considering Weapons Characters: 1-2 Notes: Apparently the chassis is pretty tough, and it goes pretty fast, so ramming spikes were added. Name: Riot Control Chassis: Squadcar Rarity: Rare Weapons: Front Car Rifle, Front Vehicular Shotgun, Rear Smoke Gun (Maybe) Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: Whatever Fits Characters: 2 Notes: Rifle pierces armor, shotgun flays flesh. The smoke gun is optional, I have no idea what the bulk is on these things. I chose smoke gun since there is no tear gas gun. Name: Ripper Chassis: Big Pickup Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Dual Front Vehicular Shotguns, Dual Side Flechette Guns Armor: Balanced Tires: Offroad Engine: Whatever Fits Characters: 2 (3 if it fits, but I'm guessing its only 2) Note: Goodbye characters. Of questionable usefulness by itself against heavily armored targets, but NPCs never attack with one car. Name: Rocket Shot Chassis: Offroad Buggy Rarity: Common Weapons: Front Micro Missile Launcher Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Offroad Engine: 0.6L Characters: 1 Notes: A variant of the Killer Bee and Hornet. Name: Rocketman Chassis: Fiftyseven Rarity: Very Rare Weapons: Front Machine Gun, Layered with Light and Mini Rockets in all empty slots. Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Standard Engine: Max Considering Weapons Characters: 1-2 Notes: Not a lot of bulk here so added a lot of expendable rockets. Name: Royal Pain Chassis: Royal Eaton Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Front Medium Machine Gun, Side Machine Guns Armor: Balanced Tires: Reinforced Engine: Max Considering Weapons Characters: 2 Notes: Machine gun-covered Eaton. Name: Sabre Chassis: Moose Rarity: Common Weapons: Dual Front Machine Guns Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Standard Engine: 2.5L Characters: 3 Notes: Machine gun, longer range version of the Needler. Name: Shaker Chassis: Chomper Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: 2xHvyRocket Rear, HvyRocket L & R, HvyRocket + RL Front Armor: 25/25/25/25/5/7 Tires: OR Engine 2.5 Characters: 2 Note: unleaded power! Submitted by Parduz. Name: Shell Shock Chassis: Big Pickup Rarity: Uncommon-Rare Weapons: Side Mounted Mortars (Maybe add a front gun and/or ram) Armor: Balanced Tires: Offroad Engine: Whatever Fits Characters: 2-3 Note: Ultimate artillery pickup truck. Design idea suggested by Flaming Savage. Name: Shredder Chassis: Windsor II Rarity: Common Weapons: Front Shotgun, Front Flechette Gun, Rear Machine Gun Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Standard Engine: Max Non-Exposed Characters: 2 Notes: Anti-personnel version of the Windsors II. Name: Shuriken Chassis: Chevalier Rarity: Common Weapons: Front Flechette Gun, Front Machine Gun, Rear Smokescreen Armor: 20/15/15/12/4/4 Tires: Standard Engine: 2L Characters: 2 Note: A discreet attack vehicle. Name: Sidewinder Chassis: Dustup Rarity: Common Weapons: Front MML Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Offroad Engine: 1.6L Characters: 1 Notes: Missile dustup. Submitted by Eddy. Name: Sizzler Chassis: Apache Rarity: Rare Weapons: 2 Front Heavy Lasers Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: 4L Characters: 2 Notes: A scorching wasteland fighter. Submitted by madmax. Name: Sniper Scope Chassis: Chevalier Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Front Heavy Car Rifle Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Offroad Engine: 2L Characters: 2 Note: A sniper sedan. Name: Sonic Boom Chassis: Sonic Rarity: Common Weapons: Front Micromissile Launcher, Rear Heavy Rocket Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: 1L Characters: 1 Notes: Rocket sonic. Name: Spirit Gun Chassis: Spirit Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Front Mounted Tank Gun Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: 2L Characters: 2 Notes: Tank gun sedan. Name: Stinger Chassis:Pheonix Rarity: common Weapons: gg/gg front(maybe light-med. rocket rear.) Armor: heavy Front Tires: Standard Engine: 4l Characters: 2 Note: Close ranger bullet-blasting muscle car. Submitted by madmax. Name: Stormcloud Chassis: Stormer Rarity: Rare/Very Rare Weapons: Front Micro Missile Launcher, Front Medium Machine Gun Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Racing/Standard Engine: Max Considering Weapons Characters: 1-2 Notes: Micro Missile and medium machine gun. Might only have enough room for one person. Maybe consider dropping to regular machine gun for two people. Name: Sunset Chassis: Sunrise Weapons: MMG front, Spike dropper or mines rear Armor: Balanced Tires: Standard Engine 4L Characters: 1 Note: This one's for deathracing. Submitted by Kazzy. Name: Tarmac Terror Chassis: Sunrise Rarity: Common Weapons: L&R MMG, Front Spikes Armor: 20/21/21/12/3/3 Tires: Standard Engine: 3.2L Characters: 2 Notes: Rammer with side guns as support. Submitted by Eddy. Name: Teamster Chassis: Estate Rarity: Common Weapons: 1 MMG front, 1 Spikedropper rear Armor: 18/16/16/16/3/3 Tires: Reinforced Engine: 1.6L Characters: 7 Notes: Ped deployment chassis. Submitted by Eddy. Name: Turbulence Chassis: Windsor Rarity: Common Weapons: Front Vehicular Shotgun, Front Gatling Gun, Rear Paint Spray Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: 3.2L Characters: 2 Notes: Armored close combat sedan. Name: Volley Chassis: Lorry Rarity: Common-Uncommon Weapons: Dual Front Gatling Guns, Dual Rear Heavy Machine Guns, 4x Side Car Rifles Armor: Moderate all around. Tires: Reinforced Engine: 8L Characters: Negotiable, more the better Note: An economic, gun-laden lorry. Name: War Machine Chassis: Apache Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Heavy Flamethrower + Anti-tank gun front, 1 GG rear Armor:33/26/31/31/5/6 Tires: Reinforced Engine 3.2v8 Characters: 2 Notes: Submitted by Kazzy. Name: Zombie Jamboree Chassis: Hearse Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Dual Front Hgats, Side flamers, Rear dual CGL's Armor: Moderate all around Tires: Reinforced Engine: Whatever Fits Characters: Whatever Fits Notes: Who could ask for more? Kill them coming AND going! Go home carrying your shield or in it! Need to be cremated?.. We provide that too! Submitted by JD. |
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madmax Posted Apr 15, 2008, 10:00 pm |
An apache with front Hgg/gg maybe? | ||||||
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Jansan Posted Apr 15, 2008, 10:32 pm |
Sounds good Max, I put it up on the main list. |
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*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted Apr 15, 2008, 11:24 pm |
Note the name change and my addition.
Name: ? (Halfbreed) Chassis: Apache Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Front Heavy Gatling Gun, Front Gatling Gun Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Offroad Engine: Max Unexposed Characters: 3 Note: Suggested by madmax. =========== My additions Name: Pureblood Injun Chassis: Apache Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: 2 Gats front 2 gats Rear Armor: Front max / Back Max / Sides 28 / Top 5 Bottom 5 Tires: Offroad / Reinforced Engine: 4L or 3.2LV8 Characters: 4 or more depending on reloads Note: My "4gat Punisher" is a proven killer! The gats short range means using well skilled characters to asure good first hits to keep the npc's missing their shots. Proven design. Name: PBR "Streetgang" (Patrol Boat Rig) ((From "Apocalypse Now")) Chassis: Lorry Rarity: Rare Weapons: Hgat and HMG front and back / MMG and Gat sides Armor: Moderate all around. Tires: Reinforced Engine: 8L Characters: Up to 7, with double reloads on all weapons Note: With well skilled gunners manning the weapons, there is not much that can withstand an encounter with the 'Streetgang'. Proven design. |
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madmax Posted Apr 15, 2008, 11:42 pm |
The injun with 3.2lv8 would make a good rare car.
Buzzcut: Buzzer 5l engine 2 front Hggs/2 rear gg(or one rear RL) Big Meanie: Big Pickup 4l Front Hgg and RL/Side mounted ggs Firestorm: Big Pickup(perhaps a version with Buzzer?) 4l engine 2 front Heavy Flamers. |
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*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted Apr 15, 2008, 11:48 pm |
Yeah, very fast with the V8 in it! That is also a proven design too! |
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*sam* Posted Apr 16, 2008, 12:10 am |
Nice, thanks guys, I'll definitely add most of these 
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Jansan Posted Apr 16, 2008, 12:46 am |
Awesome design ideas here guys, I added yours to the main list.
Madmax, I set your list up like the others so I filled in some blanks, if you want me to adjust any details on them in the main listing let me know.
Edit - Our pleasure Sam, I had fun making these myself.
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madmax Posted Apr 16, 2008, 1:12 am |
I think a bit more variety would be good, rather than facing the same thing all the time. A few with more common weapons based on fairly common chassis would be good.
Not sure if there is something like this, but: Interceptor Common Sunrise 4l engine (maybe something similiar but rarer with a 3.l2v8?) Hmg front mounted (maybe some one shot rockets if there is room) 2 people Heavy front armor, weaker rear. EDIT: maybe spikes? Gladiator Chomper common-uncommon 2.5l Front Hmg and reinforced ram/rear gg or mg(again, maybe some one shots if room, perhaps a heavy rocket in place of the gg) Heavy front armor characters:2 |
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madmax Posted Apr 16, 2008, 1:17 am |
This would be a nice Deathracer too. Edit: just noticed the 88. I love it! I would like to see a Mcfly, even if it is super rare. Maybe drop the nitro and go to 2 mmgs? |
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Jansan Posted Apr 16, 2008, 1:22 am |
Awesome, I love the idea of more one shot heavy rockets. Those thing scare me too. I'd watch the side with that mother on it. Added above!
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Jansan Posted Apr 16, 2008, 1:23 am |
Ah good idea, I'll just add another version with dual MMGs and no nitro. Can't hurt to have more example builds. Edit - And plus, more Back to the Future references.
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madmax Posted Apr 16, 2008, 1:53 am |
Jansan: How about changing the name on the Flamethrower buzzer to "Dragon's Breath"?
And some more designs! Crusher Apache engine: 4l or 3.2lv8 Uncommon Front Reinforced Ram and Heavy Flamethrowers and maybe something else on sides/back 2 people "A terrifying melee vehicle" No one thinks I am a Pyromaniac, do they? 
Devastator Apache rare 4l engine(or 3.2lv8) Front Car cannon and gatling gun 2-3 characters Heavy front/moderate bottom armor(maybe not the max amount of armor for the chassis) Notes: "Read the name" |
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*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted Apr 16, 2008, 2:11 am |
Name change only..
Name: Oil Barrel (Exxon Valdez) Chassis: Windsor Rarity: Common Weapons: Rear Oil, Front Heavy Machine Gun Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Standard Engine: Max Non-Exposed Characters: 2 Notes: Oil and guns, classic Spy Hunter combination. Name: Haze (Purple Haze) since paint is purple Chassis: Lorry Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Heavy Smokescreen/Heavy Paint Spray each side, Dual Front Heavy Gatling Guns, Dual Rear Mortars Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: 8L Characters: 4+ Note: With this much smoke and paint, it should be easy to cause confusion and dual heavy gatling the opposition. |
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madmax Posted Apr 16, 2008, 2:18 am |
Maybe a Marley version thats rarer? |
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Jansan Posted Apr 16, 2008, 2:18 am |
More great ideas, thanks guys. Going to add them now.
In the meantime I had added a bunch of the rare/never seen chassis. They'd be great to add to the ultra rare chance to tougher scouts. Edit - List is freakin huge now. Now that's some heavy NPC variety. Feel free to throw out some more, I'll add them in. I think I'm fresh out for now though. |
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madmax Posted Apr 16, 2008, 2:29 am |
Love the name for the Marley sniper, I was trying to think of something like that.
We could rename this "The thread that makes everyone hate Jansan, madmax, and JD for suggesting vehicles that will kill their cars and people"
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*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted Apr 16, 2008, 2:39 am |
Name: Zombie Jamboree
Chassis: Hearse Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Dual Front Hgats, Side flamers, Rear dual CGL's Armor: Moderate all around Tires: Reinforced Engine: Whatever Fits Characters: Whatever Fits Notes: Who could ask for more? Kill them coming AND going! Go home carrying your shield or in it! Need to be cremated?.. We provide that too! |
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Jansan Posted Apr 16, 2008, 2:40 am |
I already hate myself for suggesting a new version of the rocket pickup. 
But it needs to go the next level. |
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*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted Apr 16, 2008, 2:55 am |
I just mentioned to Jansan, With all of the bitching about how wimpy the AI is.... If Sam would add some of these cars, they would be bitching from the other side of their faces!
AND save Sam a LOT of coding time! |
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Monty Posted Apr 16, 2008, 6:32 am |
I will now add design I am using for a very long time now and I think NPCs will use it even better than me thanks to not have to wait one second after targetting.
Name: Black Rock Chassis: Landrunner Rarity: Common Weapons: Front RL and HMG (or HGG) and all sides and rear MGs (or GGs) Armor: Full all around Tires: Reinforced Engine: 3.2l (or 3.2l V8) Characters: 2 Notes: There is no place to be safe around this car, front is worst but even approaching from rear can get you killed Maybe use the design in brackets as rarer design, I dunno, I ue the best I can find, so started with the non bracket, now have the design in brackets... (And I know the name is stupid, but I wanna be remembered  )
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Jansan Posted Apr 16, 2008, 6:54 am |
Okay thanks Monty, I added both. Always need more landrunners!
I also alphabetized the list for easier viewing. |
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madmax Posted Apr 16, 2008, 11:57 am |
Are you sure NPCs Don't have to wait one second after targetting? From my expeirience it seems like they do. | ||||||
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madmax Posted Apr 16, 2008, 12:07 pm |
This one is based off one of Latte's cars
Dreadnought Buzzer Rare ggs in every slot Armor:Balanced Characters:6(Latte said he could fit that many) "A rapid-firing combat vehicle capable of frightening amounts of fire (a replacemnt word for that fire would be could, cant think of anything atm)" |
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Seiler Posted Apr 16, 2008, 1:21 pm |
Mutant Mulcher
Pickup Chassis Armor 21/16/18/18/5/5 2L Engine Front Reinforced Ram Front Paint Gun Left GG Right GG Light, fast, and designed to take down even the biggest guns with minimal cost, this ramming pickup works best when fighting alongside its cousins the Marauder and Masher. Mutant Menace Pickup Chassis Armor 18/12/14/14/12/14 2L Engine Front CGL Front CGL Left MG Right MG Another off roader with maximum bang for minimal buck, this indirect fire weapon turns the tables on those slow Mortar Lorries with a dose of their own high angle medicine. |
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Jansan Posted Apr 16, 2008, 6:13 pm |
I think they do now, it was a bug before if I'm not mistaken. And thank you Seiler and madmax for the additions. All three vehicles added!
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madmax Posted Apr 16, 2008, 8:51 pm |
This does occasionally show up in the wilderness. |
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Jansan Posted Apr 16, 2008, 9:13 pm |
Oh, really? I've only seen Hellfire. Very cool. Okay then I'll strike that from the list. When Sam does put some of these in, I'll remove those from the list as well. |
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madmax Posted Apr 16, 2008, 9:14 pm |
Oh that may have been it, im not sure. | ||||||
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Jansan Posted Apr 16, 2008, 9:22 pm |
Hmm, I think Hellfire has the anti-tank gun. Hearseman has the car grenade launcher. Honestly, Hearseman might be in scouts. I just haven't seen it. And hearses aren't really common. |
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madmax Posted Apr 16, 2008, 9:48 pm |
Anyways, New vehicle:
Sizzler Apache Rare 2 Front Heavy Lasers Armor:Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine:4l Characters:2? "A scorching wasteland fighter. |
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Jansan Posted Apr 16, 2008, 9:57 pm |
Added. Threw up a few myself in the meantime as well. Should be easier to scroll through them since the ordering change too. |
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Seiler Posted Apr 17, 2008, 1:07 am |
Think you guys could add some vehicle designs that AREN'T filled with rare items and chassis?
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madmax Posted Apr 17, 2008, 2:39 am |
Biter
Chassis:Pheonix Rarity: Quite common Engine:4l Weapons:mmg/mg front(maybe dual mgs with a light-med. rocket rear. Armor:heavy Front tires:Standard Characters 2 Stinger Chassis:Pheonix Rarity:common Engine:4l Weapons:gg/gg front(maybe light-med. rocket rear.) Armor:heavy Front tires:Standard Characters: 2 |
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Eddy Take the MoneyRun Hall Posted Apr 17, 2008, 3:27 am |
Bandit
Chassis: Raccoon Rarity: Common Engine: 1L Weapons: 1 CGL (either front or rear) Armor: 12/12/12/12/3/3 Tires: Standard Characters: 1 Evan Mafia Chassis: Mercenary Rarity: Very Common Engine: 3.2L Weapons: 2 MMG Front Armor: 20/15/15/12/4/4 Tires: Standard Characters: 2 |
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Jansan Posted Apr 17, 2008, 4:09 am |
Thanks Eddy, madmax, your submissions have been added!
More speedy attack vehicles like these would be good to add to the list. Edit: Current chassis list. Feel free to hit the 2's, 1's and 0's and add another. Well maybe not Symphony, we already got a billion of those. We can add more though if someone comes up with a good one. We do want to add some new rares that people venturing in the tough areas can find, as well as new common variations to mix up the usual fights. Chassis: Alpha 1 Chassis: Ambulance 1 Chassis: Apache 5 Chassis: Big Pickup 3 Chassis: Box Van 2 Chassis: Bus 1 Chassis: Buzzer 3 Chassis: Cardona 1 Chassis: Chevalier 1 Chassis: Chomper 1 Chassis: Cougar 1 Chassis: DeVille 1 Chassis: Dustup 1 Chassis: Estate 1 Chassis: Fiftyseven 1 Chassis: Firetruck 1 Chassis: Flash 1 Chassis: Hearse 2 Chassis: Hotrod 1 Chassis: Landrunner 2 Chassis: Lorry 4 Chassis: Marley 1 Chassis: McFly 2 Chassis: McKenzie 1 Chassis: Mercenary 2 Chassis: Moose 2 Chassis: Moray 1 Chassis: Offroad Buggy 2 Chassis: Phoenix 2 Chassis: Pickup 3 Chassis: Raccoon 2 Chassis: Roadrunner 1 Chassis: Royal Eaton 1 Chassis: Semi-Tractor 2 Chassis: Sonic 1 Chassis: Spirit 1 Chassis: Squadcar 1 Chassis: Stormer 1 Chassis: Sunrise 1 Chassis: Symphony 0 Chassis: Windsor 2 Chassis: Windsor II 2 For quick reference, rarity lists from website: Extremely Common Alpha Cadrona Pickup Raccoon Symphony Very Common Apache Boxvan Carrier Van Chevalier Chomper Estate Landrunner Mercenary Moose Windsor Windsor II Quite Common Big Pickup Dustup Flash Offroad Buggy Phoenix Sonic Spirit Two-Axle Lorry Voyager Rare Buccaneer Bus Marley Moray Semi Tractor Sunrise Vampire Very Rare Bullet Buzzer Cougar DeVille Fiftyseven Hearse Hotrod McFly McKenzie Roadrunner Royal Eaton Stormer Ultra Rare Ambulance Fire Engine Squadcar |
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Eddy Take the MoneyRun Hall Posted Apr 17, 2008, 6:31 am |
Teamster
Chassis: Estate Rarity: Common Engine: 1.6L Weapons: 1 MMG frong, 1 Spikedropper rear Armor: 18/16/16/16/3/3 Tires: Reinforced Characters: 7 That one's for the ped games.
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Jansan Posted Apr 17, 2008, 9:39 am |
Added Teamster, and Black Stone and Black Rock spotted in game! Removing them from the list since they are in. That was fast, thanks Sam!
Edit: Please post here if you've spotted one of the new builds so I can remove it. |
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*JD_Basher* jd.basher@charter.net Posted Apr 17, 2008, 10:34 am |
Jansan.....Keep the added ones in the list...Just highlight them in bold and mention they are already in game.
I wanted to see what those guys were up against only to find out you had removed them. |
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Jansan Posted Apr 17, 2008, 10:35 am |
Sure, I'll give added ones their own section then. Edit: Confirmed spotted new builds section at the bottom now. |
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Monty Posted Apr 17, 2008, 12:55 pm |
Now the fame of Black Rock will last forever
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Dwarger Posted Apr 17, 2008, 8:05 pm |
How about a symphony...
Evan Bandit Chassis: Symphony Engine: 2L Weapons: HMG & Micromissile Launcher Front, Gats L&R Armor: 21/15/15/15/9/9 Tires: Offroad Crew: 2 Big punch in a little car, Good for chasing traders maybe |
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Jansan Posted Apr 17, 2008, 8:46 pm |
Awesome, thanks Dwarger, put it up. I also added another Estate called Junkyard. |
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Victor Posted Apr 17, 2008, 9:54 pm |
Another Symphony build;
Crescendo Chassis: Symphony Engine: 2L Weapons: Flamethrower & Rocket Launcher front, MML rear Armor: 21/16/16/18/5/8 Tires: Offroad Crew: 2 An offroad-capable symph that can fire rockets ahead and behind, and closes in for the kill with a flamethrower. Good as an outrider, or an escort for something with a strong direct-fire weapon. |
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madmax Posted Apr 17, 2008, 10:28 pm |
MAybe th Hotshot could become a wilderness design? I think it would fair pretty well. | ||||||
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Jansan Posted Apr 17, 2008, 10:40 pm |
I agree, the Hotshot is pretty cool.
Also awesome symphony build Victor, added it to the list a bit ago. |
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Eddy Take the MoneyRun Hall Posted Apr 18, 2008, 4:15 am |
Overture
Chassis: Symphony Engine: 2L Weapons: RL Front, 5 Heavy rockets Armor: 21/14/14/14/3/6(bottom) Tires: Reinforced Mans: 2 Mutant Rancher Chassis: Pickup Engine: 3.2L Weapons: Car Rifle & Vehicular Shotty front, L&R MML Armor: 16/14/14/16/4/4 Tires: Offroad Mans: 2 Mutant Rustler Chassis: Pickup Engine: 3.2L Weapons: Heavy Car Rifle & Vehic. Shotty front, L&R Light rocket Armor: 16/14/14/16/4/4 Tires: Offroad Mans: 2 Hotshot Chassis: Moose Engine: 2L Weapons: Heavy Flamer front, Heavy Flaming Oil back Armor: 22/17/17/22/3/3 Tires: Standard Mans: 1 Tarmac Terror Chassis: Sunrise Engine: 3.2L Weapons: L&R MMG, Front Spikes Armor: 20/21/21/12/3/3 Tires: Standard Mans: 2 Rattlesnake Chassis: Dustup Engine: 1.2L Weapons: Front Vehic. Shotgun Tires: Offroad Mans: 1 Sidewinder Chassis: Dustup Engine: 1.6L Weapons: Front MML Tires: Offroad Mans: 1 |
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Jansan Posted Apr 18, 2008, 5:25 am |
Rockin' suggestions Eddy, added them all, but I renamed Hotshot to Hotshot II temporarily since there is already a Hotshot. If you'd like to suggest a new name instead of Hotshot II, I will change it.
Possible ideas: Fireball, Inferno, Fire Arrow, Solar Flare |
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Eddy Take the MoneyRun Hall Posted Apr 18, 2008, 6:55 am |
Inferno sounds pretty good. 
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madmax Posted Apr 18, 2008, 11:48 am |
perhaps the name you had for the Dragon's Breath earlier?
Metal Inferno. Could we get a post from Sam saying which ones are in? 
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Jansan Posted Apr 18, 2008, 5:04 pm |
That'd be cool too, totally forgot about that. I'll leave it up to Mr. Eddy since its his car design; Eddy just let me know. That would be cool, but he may want to surprise us with certain ones. If he wants to give us hints however I wouldn't object. :P I might have to make a new, different post with the new confirmed ones since the list is so huge. It's really going to be hard to tell with the really rare stuff when/if its in, but the more common builds should be easy to spot. |
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Eddy Take the MoneyRun Hall Posted Apr 19, 2008, 3:47 am |
Metal Inferno sounds even better! | ||||||
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Victor Posted Apr 19, 2008, 4:16 am |
Alley Oop
Chassis: Voyager Engine: 3.2L Weapons: Mounted Ram and Rocket Launcher front, Flechette and Small Rocket rear, Mini Rocket L/R Armor: 20/16/16/18/4/6 Tires: Reinforced Crew: 2 Notes: Room for 1 RL reload. With a rocket launcher, a good engine, and a ram plate, this car has a good chance of flipping light vehicles. |
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Parduz Posted Apr 24, 2008, 1:24 am |
Having been killed by a Black Stone (though i feel that the Van Damage location is really bugged) i want to say that that car kick asses..... as i will do the first time i'll meet Monty
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Jansan Posted Apr 24, 2008, 1:31 am |
Yeah those two models are monsters, both Stone and Rock. Not sure if any others are in, but I'm keeping a vigilant watch! I forgot to update but Eddy I changed the name and Victor I have added your car as well.
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Marrkos Posted Apr 24, 2008, 1:40 am |
You could put them on the wiki. Seems like this is just the sort of info it was created for. |
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Jansan Posted Apr 24, 2008, 1:42 am |
That's a great idea, it'll read better than the huge forum post too. I'll do that when I get a chance. |
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Seiler Posted Apr 24, 2008, 1:43 am |
Yeah, I spent some time updating occupant info on the Wiki (thanks to all the Desert Flames and Badlanders I always draw in the NPC events $%&#$*!!!! I know them by heart) and noticed that there was still a ton of into to input. Not all that familiar with the Wiki formatting, but I'll be trying to add a few pieces of info a day, and since Jansan did start this current round of NPC car production, I'm sure he could add a few bits of info in there
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Eddy Take the MoneyRun Hall Posted Apr 24, 2008, 7:29 am |
Saw a "Big Meanie" the other day, but I didn't stop to say hi to the folks inside. | ||||||
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Jansan Posted Apr 24, 2008, 7:30 am |
Awesome Eddy, thanks. I'll add that one to confirmed. I'll take some time to put it on the wiki. Confirmed cars added to the Wiki: Name: Big Meanie Chassis: Big Pickup Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Front Hgg and RL/Side mounted ggs Armor: Balanced(?) Tires: Reinforced/Offroad(?) Engine: 4l Characters: 2 Note: Heavily armed big pickup. Submitted by madmax. Name: Black Rock Chassis: Landrunner Weapons: Front RL and HMG and all sides and rear MGs Armor: Full all around Tires: Reinforced Engine: 3.2L Characters: 2 Submitted By: Monty Name: Black Stone Chassis: Landrunner Weapons: Front RL and HGG and all sides and rear GGs Armor: Full all around Tires: Reinforced Engine: 3.2l V8 Characters: 2 Submitted By: Monty |
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madmax Posted Apr 24, 2008, 12:19 pm |
Sweet! My car made it in. Where did you see it? | ||||||
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Monty Posted Apr 24, 2008, 1:07 pm |
I love people hating my design of cars I should finalize my ATG LR and suggest it too, but so far it is rather weak so I am trying to make it stronger to piss off even more people...
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*sam* Posted Apr 24, 2008, 5:39 pm |
Keep 'em coming! I've added a few more today... 
Sometimes slightly modified from your specs, I hope that's ok. The Da Vinci is now also an arena combat variant (with less armour) - I reckon it will be good for unique tactical combats. |
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Flaming savage Posted Apr 24, 2008, 5:42 pm |
how about a big pickup with 2 motars on each side | ||||||
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Jansan Posted Apr 24, 2008, 6:16 pm |
Of course, I kinda figured there would be some tweaking.
Awesome, glad to see more paint ones. Flaming Savage - I'll add a mortar big pickup right now for you. Filed it under "Shell Shock" for the name. Confirmed Addition, I'll add to Wiki later tonight: Name: Da Vinci Chassis: Mercenary Rarity: Common Weapons: Front Paint Gun, Front Machine Gun, Rear Paint Spray Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Standard Engine: Negotiable Characters: 2 |
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*Fourhand* Posted Apr 24, 2008, 8:34 pm |
Just encountered Crescendo and Biter in the wild. | ||||||
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Jansan Posted Apr 24, 2008, 8:42 pm |
Thanks Four! Confirmed and soon to be added to Wiki: Name: Crescendo Chassis: Symphony Rarity: Common Weapons: Flamethrower & Rocket Launcher front, MML rear Armor: 21/16/16/18/5/8 Tires: Offroad Engine: 2L Characters: 2 Notes: An offroad-capable symph that can fire rockets ahead and behind, and closes in for the kill with a flamethrower. Good as an outrider, or an escort for something with a strong direct-fire weapon. Submitted by Victor. Name: Biter Chassis: Pheonix Rarity: Common Weapons: mmg/mg front(maybe dual mgs with a light-med. rocket rear. Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Standard Engine: 4L Characters: 2 Note: Machine gun packed Phoenix. Submitted by madmax. |
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Jansan Posted Apr 24, 2008, 10:54 pm |
New confirmed model of the Da Vinci II. I think this is the more heavily armored model you can encounter in combat that Sam was talking about? While the lightly armored, speeder one is for combat matches? | ||||||
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*sam* Posted Apr 24, 2008, 10:57 pm |
Other way around Jansan: the Da Vinci II is primarily for arena combats and is lighter armoured | ||||||
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Jansan Posted Apr 24, 2008, 11:03 pm |
Oh, sorry. Thanks for the clarification!
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Eddy Take the MoneyRun Hall Posted Apr 25, 2008, 4:20 am |
Road to Gateway. Now I'm kicking myself for not taking it. |
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4saken Posted Apr 26, 2008, 11:19 pm |
IDEA:
a predisposition for bounty hunters to have the newer vehicles as opposed to stock vehicles. |
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Jansan Posted Apr 27, 2008, 11:59 pm |
Saw the cars: Cacophony and Sir Rocket. I don't know much more about them. | ||||||
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Jansan Posted Apr 28, 2008, 1:16 am |
Gladiator spotted as well! Going to adjust the list and place an edit here when finished.
Edit: Just wanted to say, thanks again for all the new NPC builds. It really brings some freshness seeing all these new models, and keeps us on our toes. Confirmed and added: Name: Gladiator Chassis: Chomper Rarity: Common-Uncommon Weapons: Front Hmg and reinforced ram/rear gg or mg(again, maybe some one shots if room, perhaps a heavy rocket in place of the gg) Armor: Heavy front armor Tires: Reinforced Engine: 2.5L Characters: 2 Note: A power chomper! Submitted by madmax. |
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Seiler Posted Apr 28, 2008, 3:24 am |
Mutant Mulcher sighted outside of Badlands... | ||||||
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Jansan Posted Apr 28, 2008, 3:30 am |
Thanks Seiler, I'll toss that in right now:
Name: Mutant Mulcher Chassis: Pickup Weapons: Front Reinforced Ram, Front Paint Gun, Left GG, Right GG Armor: 21/16/18/18/5/5 Tires: Reinforced Engine: 2L Characters: 2 Note: Light, fast, and designed to take down even the biggest guns with minimal cost, this ramming pickup works best when fighting alongside its cousins the Marauder and Masher. Submitted by Seiler. |
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1Sauber1 Posted Apr 28, 2008, 3:54 am |
Name: 57 Custom
Chassis: fiftyseven (Dhurrrr) Weapons:flamthrower on the back. Engine: 3.2l V8. Armor:Whatever works, mostly on the back though. Place to find it: In BL and FL, The cumulative CR of the squad has to be 2000 CR, but having a scout lower it to 1000 CR will not affect the chance of it to show up. Description:Modified just like it would have been in the days of old with a V8, and a flamethrower in the exhaust, except this one isn't cosmetic! I know you said it would only spawn in Texan and Sarsfield, But i can always dream/demand it, can't i? |
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Jansan Posted Apr 28, 2008, 4:26 am |
Sauber, added your vehicle!
Sir Rocket is a dual-rocket launcher front mounted chevalier, like its buddies the Mutant Maruder and Scorpion. Cacophony is a Symphony with a rear mounted car rifle and flaming oil jet. Okay, and looking through the availble vehicles for creating an event, these are confirmed to be added: Name: Bandit Chassis: Raccoon Rarity: Common Weapons: 1 CGL (either front or rear) Armor: 12/12/12/12/3/3 Tires: Standard Engine: 1L Characters: 1 Note: Mobile speedy grenade launcher. Submitted by Eddy. Name: Buzzcut Chassis: Buzzer Rarity: Rare Weapons: 2 front Hggs/2 rear gg(or one rear RL) Armor: Heavy Front/Rear Tires: Reinforced(?) Engine: 5l engine Characters: 2-3 Note: Gatling heavy Buzzer submitted by madmax. Name: Crusher (As Pulverizer) Chassis: Apache Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Front Reinforced Ram and Heavy Flamethrower and maybe something else on sides/back Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: 4l or 3.2lv8 Characters: 2 Note: A terrifying melee vehicle. Submitted by madmax. Name: Devastator Chassis: Apache Rarity: Rare Weapons: Front Car cannon and gatling gun Armor: Heavy front/moderate bottom armor(maybe not the max amount of armor for the chassis) Tires: Any (Not Racing) Engine: 4l or 3.2lv8 Characters: 2-3 Note: Read the name. Submitted by madmax. Name: Dragon's Breath Chassis: Buzzer Rarity: Uncommon/Rare Weapons: 2 front Heavy Flamers. Armor: Front Heavy Tires: Reinforced Engine: 5L Engine Characters: 2-3 Note: Buzzer version of Firestorm. More armor, less offroad manueverability. Design suggested by madmax. Name suggested by madmax. Name: Evan Bandit Chassis: Symphony Rarity: Common Weapons: HMG & Micromissile Launcher Front, Gats L&R Armor: 21/15/15/15/9/9 Tires: Offroad Engine: 2L Characters: 2 Notes: Big punch in a little car, Good for chasing traders. Submitted by Dwarger. Name: Gunboat (Modified to be even more scary than I made it) Chassis: Lorry Rarity: Rare Weapons: Four Side Car Cannons, Rear HMgs, Front RLs Armor: Heavy Sides, Lower Rear/Front Tires: Reinforced Engine: 8L Characters: 4+ Name: Killer Bee Chassis: Offroad Buggy Rarity: Common Weapons: Front Gatling Gun (Added Front Heavy Rocket) Armor: Heavy Front Tires: Offroad Engine: 0.6L Characters: 1 Name: Mutant Rancher Chassis: Pickup Rarity: Common Weapons: Car Rifle & Vehicular Shotty front, L&R MML Armor: 16/14/14/16/4/4 Tires: Offroad Engine: 3.2L Characters: 2 Notes: Versatile offroad attack vehicle. Submitted by Eddy. |
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Seiler Posted Apr 28, 2008, 5:03 am |
Hmm, dont think rear flamers is all that effective... |
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1Sauber1 Posted Apr 28, 2008, 5:22 am |
For the hell of it.
The hotrod is also a "forthehellofit" chassis, as are the roadrunner and fiftyseven. |
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Jansan Posted Apr 28, 2008, 6:18 am |
No worries, Sam tweaks as needed. For example, the Da Vinci used to have rear paint spray as design, but he went with side paints which probably work better considering the design. This just serves as a springboard really. | ||||||
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*Longo* Posted Apr 28, 2008, 1:27 pm |
Gotta have some buses Sam!
Name: Nightmare Chassis: Bus Rarity: Rare Weapons: Front:Reinforced Ram, Car Cannon. Each side:1 Hvy Rocket, 1 MG. Rear: 2 HMG Armor: 35/35/28/28/7/7 Tires: Reinforced Engine: 5LV8 Characters: 4 Note: Optional Roll Cage. Big Combat Vehicle And the Traders need a bus too - Name: Gypsy Chassis: Bus Rarity: Rare Weapons: Front:Reinforced Ram, ATG. Each side:1 Hvy Rocket. Rear: 2 Radar Guided Missiles Armor: 35/35/28/28/7/7 Tires: Reinforced Engine: 7L Characters: 3 Note: You don't want to follow this trader....might be one you want to let go! |
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Parduz Posted Apr 28, 2008, 2:31 pm |
Name: Catch Me!
Chassis: Chomper Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: 2xMMG rear, Nitro Booster Left and Right Armor: 20/28/26/26/5/7 Tires: OR Engine 3.2v8 Characters: 2 Note: A Fast, boosted Chomper, with a good amount of damage. Maybe a good trader escort vehicle. Name: Bite & Chomp Chassis: Chomper Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: MMG+GG both Front and Rear Armor: 25/25/25/25/5/7 Tires: OR Engine 2.5 Characters: 2 Name: Shaker Chassis: Chomper Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: 2xHvyRocket Rear, HvyRocket L & R, HvyRocket + RL Front Armor: 25/25/25/25/5/7 Tires: OR Engine 2.5 Characters: 2 Note: unleaded power! |
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Kazzy Posted Apr 28, 2008, 3:33 pm |
Name: Arbalest (Trader Version)
Chassis: Box Van Rarity: Uncommon or Rare, you choose
Weapons: Mounted Mortar + Heavy GG Rear, Paint sprays on sides, Reinforced Ram Front Armor: 22/24/20/20/5/5 Tires: Reinforced Engine 3.2v8 Characters: 3 Note: If theres enough room, maybe a rollcage and a smokescreen on front can be fit. Pirate version would have Mortar and Heavy GG front and possibly a heavy smokescreen rear. Name: Mean Machine Chassis: Big Pickup Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Reinforced Ram + Mounted Spikes front, 1 Heavy GG on each side Armor: 24/23/27/27/5/6 Tires: OR Engine 3.2v8 Characters: 3 Note: Additional gg on each side if theres room. If not then a Heavy or Med rocket instead. Name: War Machine Chassis: Apache Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Heavy Flamethrower + Anti-tank gun front, 1 GG rear Armor:33/26/31/31/5/6 Tires: Reinforced Engine 3.2v8 Characters: 2 Name: Apprentice Chassis: Windsor II Rarity: Rare Weapons: Laser + MG Front / Roll cage fitted Armor: 25/20/22/22/5/6 Tires: Standard Engine 3.2v8 Characters: 2 Note:. I know this all fits because i have a setup exactly like this on one of my win2s. Name: Buster Cannon Chassis: Buzzer Rarity: Rare Weapons: Twin Car Cannons front, GG on sides Armor: 38/32/34/34/7/7 Tires: Reinforced Engine 3.2v8 Characters: 3 Note: Name: Sunset Chassis: Sunrise Weapons: MMG front, Spike dropper or mines rear Armor: Balanced Tires: Standard Engine 4L Characters: 1 Note: This one's for deathracing. Name: Pocket Rockets Chassis: Apache Weapons: HGG + RL front, MG rear, Medium Rocket on each side Armor: Balanced Tires: Reinforced Engine 4L Characters: 3 Note: For Combat Events. Theres also room for 1 HGG and RL reloads. |
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Jansan Posted Apr 28, 2008, 6:57 pm |
Lots of nice new car builds. And thanks for matching the existing format to make it easy to fit in and easy to read.
All should be added to the first page! |
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*Lugal* Posted Apr 28, 2008, 11:14 pm |
Saw a Sir Rocket just outside Somerset yesterday. Was a nice little surprise. | ||||||
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*Longo* Posted Apr 29, 2008, 12:21 am |
Killer Bee seen outside SS | ||||||
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Parduz Posted Apr 29, 2008, 1:08 am |
Bandit, DaVinciII and Black Rock seen on the road to and at the gate of GW. | ||||||
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*Longo* Posted Apr 29, 2008, 8:42 am |
Looking at a Pulveriser right now. Dont see it anywhere... | ||||||
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Jansan Posted Apr 29, 2008, 8:46 am |
It was submitted as Crusher, but other than that its pretty identicle. The only two new ones that I don't think were submitted by one of us is Sir Rocket and Cacophony. |
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*Longo* Posted Apr 29, 2008, 10:11 am |
Well I was on a travel when I saw it, but I had to turn around and kill it to see what it was hehe. Rein ram and Hvy FT front, Hvy rocket on each side and 2 on back I believe. And a 3.2V8
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Eddy Take the MoneyRun Hall Posted May 3, 2008, 3:55 am |
Name: Mutant Maxx
Chassis: Big Pickup Rarity: Uncommon Weapons: Mortar front, CGL front, MMG each side Armor: 28/26/26/23/6/6 Tires: Offroad Engine: 4L Characters: 3 Note: Great for chasing down fleeing traders! Name: Compass Chassis: Estate Rarity: Common Weapons: 2xMMG front, MG left right & rear Armor: 18/16/16/16/3/3 Tires: Standard Engine: 1.8L Characters: 3 Note: That's 360° of fire, for those of you who rode in one of these to school for Geometry! |
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Jansan Posted May 3, 2008, 4:45 am |
Thanks Eddy, got those two.
Though, for compass, isn't that 270 degrees of fire? No rear guns.
Edit - Nevermind, I mis-read. |
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*Fourhand* Posted May 3, 2008, 4:51 am |
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Jansan Posted May 3, 2008, 4:52 am |
Oh wow. I read that as "right and left." |
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Eddy Take the MoneyRun Hall Posted May 3, 2008, 7:54 am |
Saw (and captured) an Evan Bandit at Gates to Gateway. Looks like a Symphony with HMG and MML front, GG on left and right. | ||||||
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*Longo* Posted Jun 22, 2008, 7:55 am |
Bump! Also need a vehicle with a mortar since none in game presently have 1 to loot. Name: Redfern Chassis: Boxtruck Rarity: Rare Weapons: Front:ATG X2. Each side: 2 medium rockets, rear: 1 mounted mortar, 1 heavy rocket Armor: 24/24/19/19/5/5 Tires: Reinforced Engine: 4L Characters: 3 |
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WolfEater Posted Jun 22, 2008, 11:14 am |
i see alot of ppl suggest thing's like van's and boxvan's with rare weapon like Morter and CC ATG and other stuff i think it not right becuz those car's arent for fight they support car's only and should be treated like that.
I see it this way (war way) Tank's= apache Buzzer's land rover's and other strong chasis with good armor fit now u got light medium and heavy type tanker's Light-medium= suport transportasion and trader's Heavy=there to kick evrything out of the way. so plz dont put this into the game the weapon will be very easy hunted and those weapon supose to be rare. I know u want those gun's but if it be easy to get them then all will have and gun's like Tank gun's will become comman and that not supose to happend at all. P.S i will soon make some of my own Combo from light to heavy and note what for what use |
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WolfEater Posted Jun 22, 2008, 12:17 pm |
Heavy Tank Escort/Full Combat
Name:LandRunner Chasis:Ambulance Engine:8L Weapon: FF-RR RR-Mounted Morter HF or HCR L/R-MMG Armor: FF-28 RR-40 L/R-40 T/B-7 Tyre's: Offroad FualTank: 2 Crew:3-4 ppl and leave about 30-50 Bulk for ammo Rarity: depand on the car+Weapon Car Ultra Rare and weapon Descripsion: it can keep 2 lorry safe alon but i will go with a pack of 3-4 lorry 1 ambulance and 2 Light-Medium Tank's for extra close combat. *The diffrance in useing heavy Flaming Oil Jet or HCR will be the set on the lorry's/medium tank's. if any 1 alse got FOJ to make more affactive cover. Name:Ogara Chasis:Buzzer Engine: 4L Weapon: FF- CC/ATG HFthrower/HGG L/R-GG Armor: F-38 L/R-35 RR-28 T/B-8 Tyre's:Reinforced Fual:2 Rairty:Very Rare Crew:3-4 leav's room for extra ammo 33-13 Descripsion: Ogara not that of an Accalrator but it not his job, his job get to that praticalr car and destroy him a fast as he can. HFT will go with the gun that do more splash dmg and the HGG will go with the 1 that do pentrait better. Vurnable to Balistic weapon but then agin it not his job be close to the enemy when first the fast car intersapt and go handle with the morter car's and ogra will be the 1 that makeing enemy flee when i will have time i get Apache Fight/Suport and same landruver and some intersaptor's |
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*Longo* Posted Jun 22, 2008, 12:49 pm |
I specifically made it a box van because the armor is paper thin, making it harder to salvage the weapon. I dont need any mortars myself, just think the game needs it. And they need buses in the wilderness for sure. Bus armor is thin too, and it will be hard to loot weapons in this too, but will offer a great opponent. You dont want a great rare chassis car with great rare weapons, this would be the "mother load" and would be too great of loot. Need to split it up some. | ||||||
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WolfEater Posted Jun 22, 2008, 1:43 pm |
here where u rong thin armor mean's faster dmged right? but what if i got intersaptor with those weapon that hit only soft or use flame to confuse them so I vote no more rare weapon on unarmed car's easier to destroy easier to loot that's final, there no black and white here i dislike the idea of puting CGL on a bandit also as the NPC dont use it that well and i got alot of CGL stocked in my inventory becuz of that. long range car's should stay out sight or at list distance. and it fualish to make intersaptor without any ammo or 1 CGL as CGL is shoing at numars stacked car's for massive dmg plz who the creater of this theared make a pool on that. |
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*Longo* Posted Jun 22, 2008, 1:59 pm |
Wolf-
My point is why are you wanting a extremely rare chassis with extremely rare weapons? So you can get the complete package all on one scout? I have thrown out some NPC vehicle model suggestions here, if you dont like them, oh well. I don't particularly like your models either, but I am not screaming or criticizing them as if they are implemented all of Evan will fall into Hell. |
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WolfEater Posted Jun 22, 2008, 4:01 pm |
Yes but for evry Set there some Rairty I didnt put FireTruck with super rare guns like tank gun and put on him a rarity of comman. I suggested an Escort ambulance that will defand escorts while on the run and u'r chanse to catch and ambulance is only with intersaptors u'r apache and all other car want catch it he got an accalrasion of an sunrise with 3.2 L so basicly he will be that hard not only to encounter even to catch and i not tlaking about trying to defate him. and the other thing is the Chasis Strenth and state(speed) is incradibale wich make him that good. it defantly better put good weapon's on good car's and not good weapon on crappy car's it just simpale logic. and i think for each car combo u should also make NPC behaive diffrantely(ya i know pain in the ass to Sam) but it warth it |
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Victor Posted Oct 7, 2008, 10:06 pm |
I've been mystified as to why these suck so much, until I finally realized that the AI isn't putting a gunner in them. I'm not sure if it's adding additional ammo, and then finding no room for a gunner, or what... but it really needs to have a 2nd crewperson to be effective. Also, the top and bottom armor are reversed from the original intent, but maybe that's okay. |
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*sam* Posted Oct 7, 2008, 10:12 pm |
Are you sure? They certainly should be adding a gunner. Do you have an event ID I can check? | ||||||
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Victor Posted Oct 7, 2008, 10:18 pm |
I'm not certain, but I think it was S67908.
If there was a gunner in the Cresc, he was busy counting his ears. |
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*Fourhand* Posted Oct 8, 2008, 4:40 am |
Also, The Deathrace Semi-tractor has a rear mounted weapon when you aren't able to put rear weapons on vehicles. | ||||||
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Mad Mike Posted Oct 8, 2008, 3:42 pm |
have had very very very bad experiences with semis.... although it would make a pretty funny ram vehicle. reinforced ram with 8L engine nitro and rocket booster | ||||||
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hallen Posted Oct 8, 2008, 11:17 pm |
Have had several attempts with Ram semi tractors - they are hopeless - they get spun on ramming symphs etc.....
I am still trying but its pretty unrewarding - if hysterically funny sometimes. Oh yeah and the armour on a semi tractor should be tougher -as it is it may as well be paper. |
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*Longo* Posted Apr 25, 2009, 10:40 pm |
Name: The Ranger
Chassis:Apache Rarity: Rare Weapons: 2 MMG front, 1 Medium Rocket Rack on LE, RT, RR Armor: 33/29/29/29/6/6 Tires: Reinforced Engine: 4L Characters: 3 Note: Could cause some serious issues to players! Sam- Could we sticky this topic? |
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The Paranoid Tourist Posted Apr 25, 2009, 10:56 pm |
That certainly would be a dangerous vehicle.
(Except that I thought that the rocket racks were going to be camp-built only. . . at least for a while.) |
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Jaguar Posted May 18, 2009, 12:06 am |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robosaurus
How about one of those?
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Whiskey Posted May 19, 2009, 6:17 pm |
Personally, I don't think camp-built only makes sense. If we can build them, then I don't see why NPCs couldn't build them. More importantly, if we can build them while squatting in a camp in the wilderness, why can't a town mechanic shop/factory build them? |
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*jimmylogan* Posted May 19, 2009, 11:03 pm |
TKW - it was a balance issue and to give camps another purpose.
Logically, you're right, but it's for game balance. JL |
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Marrkos Posted May 19, 2009, 11:09 pm |
This is what I think of every time game balance comes up.
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FireFly Posted Sep 30, 2009, 11:41 am |
The Hunter
Moray, 3.2lv8, 1 front atg, 2 people in the car, 20f 17both sides 14 rear rest top and bottom equally, room for 2 reloads. The Killer Near identical setup, but a stormer with a CC |
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FireFly Posted Sep 30, 2009, 11:42 am |
Mutant Monster
Landrunner, Fully armored, exposed 4l, 2 front RLs, 3 man car, 2 side gats. |
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Nov 27, 2009, 6:38 pm |
Some new deathrace vehicles, to try and reduce the number of "pickup with MG" events In case you can't tell, I like my deathraces explosive...
Bull Moose - Moose, 2.5L engine, Front HR and MML, both sides HR, rear FOJ. Armour front/rear 12, left/right 10, top 4 bottom 6. Phoenixfire - Phoenix, 3.2LV8 engine, Front HFT and GG. Armour front/sides 10, rear 13, top/bottom 5 Sonic Boom - Sonic, 1.2L engine, Front 2xMR, left MR, right MR, rear 2xMiniR. Armour 14 all round, 7 top and bottom. Conga - Moray, 5LV8 engine, front MMG, rear PS. Armour front/rear 15, sides 12, top/bottom 6. Nosferatu - Vampire, 3.2LV8 engine, front Reinforced Ram, Medium Rocket, rear Rocket booster. Armour 16 front, 12 rear, 8 sides, 5 top and bottom. Sapphire - Bullet, 4L engine, front ATG. Armour 8 front and sides, 12 rear, 5 top and bottom. |
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Joel Autobaun Posted Nov 27, 2009, 9:52 pm |
The Prick - BPU, dual HMG front, FG(or VS)-sides. 5L | ||||||
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Nov 28, 2009, 11:44 am |
Flashette - Flash, 2L rotary engine, Front 2xflechette gun. A armour front 6, rear 7, sides 4, top/bottom 3.
Yeah, I wouldn't join that race either. |
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Dec 1, 2009, 3:35 pm |
Since Somerset is mostly hatchbacks and sedans these days, might be nice to have some more designs. Restricted myself to just chassis that are on sale in SS. Note that I'm not claiming all these are any good (at all), and I seem to have produced too many ram cars. Ah well.
Masque - Racoon, 1L engine. Front GG and MR. Armour front 15, sides and rear 12, top 4, bottom 5. 2 occupants. Harpy - Sonic, 1L engine. front RL. Armour front 20, sides/rear 17, top 4, bottom 5. 1 occupant, and 1 reload. If the AI's not able to deal with reloads for one person cars, up engine to 1.2L instead. Soundwave - Sonic, 1.6L engine. front reinforced ram and mini rocket. Armour front 20, sides/rear 16, top-bottom 6. 1 occupant. This is probably a stupid idea. Airedale - Alpha, 1L engine. Front FT, MR. Armour front 15, sides and rear 13, top and bottom 3. 1 occupant. Impact - Cadrona, 1.6L engine. front mounted ram and heavy rocket, left and right medium rocket. Armour front 15, sides and rear 12, top 4, bottom 5. 1 (suicidal) occupant. Sanzio - Cadrona, 1.2L engine. front paint gun and medium rocket. Armour front 15, sides and rear 12, top 4, bottom 5. 1 occupant. Bully - Carrier Van, 4L engine. rollcage. Front HFT and Reinforced Ram, sides and rear Flamethrower and MR. Armour front 26, sides 22, rear 20, top and bottom 7. Up to 5 occupants, or plenty of reloads. Not sure a 4L (or even a V8) will shift that much weight though - needs testing. Urchin - Carrier Van, 3.2L engine, rollcage. Front, sides and rear MG and MMG. Armour front 24, sides and rear 22, top and bottom 7. 5 occupants, 3 MMG reloads. Party Wagon- Carrier Van, 3.2L engine, rollcage. Front 2xRL, sides and rear 2xHR. Armour front 24, sides and rear 22, top and bottom 7. As many people and reloads as you want. Squire - Chevalier, 2L engine. Front 2xMML, left and right MG. Armour front 20, sides 19, rear 16, top and bottom 5. 2 occupants, 3 reloads. FreeLance - Mercenary, 3.2L engine. front 2xHMG. Armour front 23, sides 20, rear 19, top/bottom 5. 2 occupants and 2 reloads Landsknecht - Mercenary, 3.2L engine. front CGL and CR. Armour front 22, sides and rear 18, top/bottom 8. 2 occupants plus reload for each weapon. Could switch to rear guns? Cataphract - Mercenary, 3.2L engine. rollcage, front reinforced ram and veh shotgun, left, right and rear HR. Armour front 23, sides 20, rear 19, top/bottom 5. 1 occupant. 1 reload, if you want. or an alternate version Mameluke - Mercenary, 3.2L engine. rollcage, Front RR and GG, left and right HR, rear MR and paint spray. Armour front 23, sides 20, rear 19, top/bottom 5. 1 occupant. Pugilist - Moose, 2.5L engine. Front MMG and MML, rear MMG. Armour front 22, rear 20, sides 18, top/bottom 5. 2 occupants, reloads for all weapons. Battleaxe - Chomper, 2.5L engine. Front MMG and RL, left MML, right LR. Armour front 27, sides 25, rear 23, top/bottom 6. 2 occupants, RL reload. Commuter - Estate, 1.8L engine. Front 2xCR, sides MR, rear 2xMR. Armour front 18, sides/rear 14, top/bottom 6. 3 occupants, 4 reloads. |
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Groove Champion Posted Dec 2, 2009, 3:52 am |
Nice post Arbiter!
With a limited selection of chassis and equipment, it would be nice to see a greater variety of poor-man pirates in SS! |
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*Longo* Posted Dec 2, 2009, 4:26 am |
Excellent builds WB, also great with keeping with the SS theme. | ||||||
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*sam* Posted Jan 6, 2010, 4:34 pm |
OK, phew.. just spent some time adding a bunch of these...
Hotshot II A solidly armoured version of the popular deathracing configuration Overture Bristling with rockets, this is a mean adversary Gypsy A rare vehicle, often used as a hybrid fighter/trader Arbalest A tough trader vehicle, rarely seen north of Badlands Sunset A powerful deathracing musclecar Redskin A popular arena combat configuration Firey Phoenix A popular deathracer with firey weapons Nosferatu A fast and deadly deathracer Sapphire A deadly deathracer packing ferocious frontal weaponry Harpy A small but effective desert combat vehicle Squire A midsize combat vehicle with rockets Freelance A midsize vehicle that punches above its weight Battleaxe An offroad desert fighter |
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Zoltan Posted Jan 6, 2010, 4:36 pm |
Thanx Sam. | ||||||
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Jan 6, 2010, 8:25 pm |
Is there a way we can make it easier for you to add them? Maybe build them in DW:T or something? | ||||||
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Zoltan Posted Jan 6, 2010, 8:38 pm |
Encounterd a hotshot II today. Guesss i should read the forums more. Boy do they explode!! lol damaged a pile of cars in close proximity.
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*sam* Posted Jan 6, 2010, 9:09 pm |
They're already easy to add, less than 5 minutes work each. It might be better left as-is, because it forces me to look closely at the design and decide if I want it rather than making it too easy to accept at the click of a button. |
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Feb 23, 2010, 10:25 am |
Three new 3.2L deathracers, because the AI keeps bringing crunchers to pro deathraces and it's just embarrassing.
I'm never sure how much armour to put on these things, so that may need modifying. |
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Mar 30, 2010, 6:06 pm |
I can't help it, I'm addicted to building vehicles.
Some faster chasers, just so all you guys who run unarmed 4L voyagers have something to think about
Maybe some should have A armour? Just a thought. |
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*Dark Tempest* Posted Mar 30, 2010, 11:04 pm |
Ok give us something to think about?
What about the poor buggers running something slower than a 4L Voyager? (Everything else) Faster chasers will be the end of them! They already have trouble with 4L phos. |
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Mar 30, 2010, 11:19 pm |
I don't see any of these (except maybe the polecat) appearing anywhere north of GW. South of there, you should have the driving skills to make it (they should be at least as rare as a pegasus). Mostly I just want the long straight road maps to be less of a walkover. | ||||||
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Bruv Posted Mar 31, 2010, 10:26 am |
Those maps may be a walkover in a 5L A armoured flail but a couple of Scarabs would make a real mess of a box van. | ||||||
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FireFly Posted Mar 31, 2010, 10:46 am |
I think that was the point burv
All for this, since I never travel unescorted 
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LoSboccacc Posted Mar 31, 2010, 11:33 am |
some variations on the cheapo theme
side mounts just to piss of you muscle runners
...and using a windsor which I've not yet seen around ss, npc usually shows up with the windsor II edit: sorry, I was hanging out with the windy idea for a bit and just after I posted it I saw that wolfsbane already put up one with the same basic layout |
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FireFly Posted Mar 31, 2010, 11:34 am |
Oh come on, a pickup cant carry 2 side weapons silly
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LoSboccacc Posted Mar 31, 2010, 11:36 am |
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Apr 1, 2010, 4:18 pm |
Some more designs for cars that are lacking variety right now. Didn't bother with carrier van as there are some a couple of pages back.
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Armisius Posted Jun 3, 2010, 12:39 am |
These aren't exactly full builds of NPC vehicles, just some suggestions generically.
Why don't some of the NPC vehicles have a variety of armor on them, for instance it would make it more interesting if some of their "chaser" type vehicles had "A" armor. Or if some of their vehicles had "C" type armor it would make them slower and ultimately cheaper when they get looted. It just seems like the C type armor is very underutilized and it makes sense for the "wastelanders" to use "C" type armor more commonly. A suggestion for a chassis type. How about some of the current or next-gen "HYBRID" vehicles survive the solar apocalypse. (who knows what kinds of hybrid or all-electric vehicles will be produced in the next 10 to 20 years). The Honda hybrid has a unique appearance and the Toyota Prius has an interesting body type. My thinking is that these cars might only be able to wear "A" armor because their engines aren't very powerful, However, they get ridiculously good gas mileage for traveling. |
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Armisius Posted Jun 5, 2010, 12:35 am |
Another suggestion for chassis types I've never seen.
what about an "El Camino", you know front end of a car and in the back a truckbed. Have you ever seen one of those in Ireland? I thought they might spice up the courier runs. |
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Procyon Posted Jun 11, 2010, 2:48 am |
We don't have no dustups, so...
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*Fourhand* Posted Jun 11, 2010, 12:17 pm |
Here is a tip guys. Every now and then design something that is not all that great. The enemy should have a chance of fielding a fairly crappy car just like they have achange of fielding a fairly great car. Lower the armor or but in wierd weapon combos every now and then. And for Pete's sake; We have enough NPCs with rockets. | ||||||
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upgrayedd Posted Jun 11, 2010, 8:56 pm |
I was thinking the same thing, great idea! |
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Jun 11, 2010, 9:51 pm |
I was about to object, but I reread my last couple of posts and yeah, you're right. The list of crappy cars to be used in SS was far more use, and I might try something like that again. |
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Armisius Posted Aug 12, 2010, 2:19 am |
I have another idea for a chassis type that is becoming more common on the streets, but is not found in the game. Have ya'll seen the Nissan Cube or the Scion xB or the Kia Soul they look like little toasters on the road. I thought they could look pretty cool, like mini-cargo vans. Just an idea for something different. You think a few might've survived the alocalypse . . . er ... apocalypse. | ||||||
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Armisius Posted Aug 18, 2010, 11:16 pm |
So I designed a crappy/funky car don't get to close to it. 
It is a crappy estate called Rocketman. BTW, total noob question. How do I get the image to be directly in the post? Is it a process related to the img button or what? |
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*Grograt* gary.r.horder@gmail.com Posted Aug 18, 2010, 11:20 pm |
fixed it for you, in future copy location of hosted image, hit IMG button paste location and wahla | ||||||
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Armisius Posted Aug 20, 2010, 4:03 pm |
Thanks Grograt - btw when you say hit img button paste location do you mean paste the URL between the little IMG things where it says null? | ||||||
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*Grograt* gary.r.horder@gmail.com Posted Aug 20, 2010, 6:20 pm |
you can do it that way, but when you first press the IMG button a box will appear where you can paste the url and press enter | ||||||
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Armisius Posted Aug 27, 2010, 1:38 am |
In the spirit of a weird combo --I was inspired by somebody who was talking about making a smash up derby for the arena combats. I forgot who it was, but this one is for you.
The driver can fire off the smoke screen to cover his approach and fire off the nitrous to slam into his opponents, kind of a post apocalyptic kamikaze pilot, with spikes. |
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*Longo* Posted Aug 27, 2010, 1:48 am |
Problem is, the spikes will get damaged on use, and will never be around long enough to breach a car. | ||||||
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Armisius Posted Aug 27, 2010, 2:30 am |
Can the AI wait in the rear to try to hit breached cars? I thought that with the speed boost it could do some serious damage. Also, someone was saying earlier that we should design some awkward funky cars so that the AI will field some strange stuff too from time to time.
Also, I didn't really know that the spikes would get damaged after the first use and then become unusable. |
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Armisius Posted Aug 27, 2010, 2:32 am |
Here is a car to fear if your armor is low.
Room for a gunner and driver and reloads. This car could circle at the edge and come in for the kill on cars that have been weakened. Again, not a strong design on purpose. |
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Armisius Posted Aug 28, 2010, 4:15 pm |
I just like the name
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Armisius Posted Aug 28, 2010, 4:25 pm |
A variation on Doom Spear above
The AI can field some funky designs. |
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JS Posted Aug 28, 2010, 5:43 pm |
That is a good name, lol. Its also one of the best sniper designs around. not a lo of reloads if you carry three guys though. But deadly at range. Put regular CRs in it and you can snipe till the cows come home. |
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Armisius Posted Aug 31, 2010, 4:50 am |
So here I am taking this to the extreme. A ridonkulous Carrier Van. Fear Him - for he is versatile. 
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Sep 22, 2010, 11:35 pm |
The new mutants:
Blame Maxxed, it was his idea
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Armisius Posted Sep 23, 2010, 12:18 am |
That Mutant Magister is more like a fiery ball of death waiting to happen. The explosion damage from it blowing up will be more harmful then when it is alive. I love it BTW. | ||||||
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Sep 23, 2010, 8:54 am |
That's a good point. It should have a much bigger fuel tank
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Burgerflipper Bill Posted Sep 23, 2010, 1:13 pm |
Hmmm.. I can't get the following idea out of my head:
Kamikaze a group of phos, all with zero skins, roll cage, 2 reram, maxed out front armour, 4l. They should always spawn together in a well formed group. I don't know about you guys, but the sight of these things coming towards me at speed on any flat map would have me more than slightly worried... |
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*Maxxed* Posted Oct 21, 2010, 5:26 pm |
MMmmMMmm..
UTES! |
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*Maxxed* Posted Oct 21, 2010, 5:30 pm |
I need to get some sleep and can't find where this thread belongs so i'm dumping it here...
How about a Semi-Tractor that has enough bulk to carry an engine within its engine capacity....these could be awesome vehicles but there is a design glitch which needs to be rectified. Currently its engine capacity is in excess of its maximum bulk majorly limiting its potential...you can't have a ridiculously oversized exposed engine 4 a start! |
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 28, 2010, 12:46 am |
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 28, 2010, 1:08 am |
And just because everyone is always complaining about too many rockets....
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*Dark Tempest* Posted Nov 28, 2010, 5:22 am |
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Fifth Posted Dec 10, 2010, 11:44 pm |
TRADE COURIER
Phoenix 4L Offroad Tyres 21 rear armor, 15 F/Le/Ri, 6 T/B Oil Jet rear 2 crew, carries reloads for the OJ As part of trader squads, I want some real challenge to the chase! |
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Crazy AL Posted Dec 11, 2010, 12:27 am |
This will tip over |
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Crazy AL Posted Dec 11, 2010, 12:27 am |
This will do a backflip. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 11, 2010, 7:06 am |
Give it C armour | ||||||
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 11, 2010, 7:07 am |
Although it wasn't a serious suggestion....if it was would have ATG and RR...and C armour...to keep the front down. | ||||||
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Dec 11, 2010, 10:03 am |
Really? I thought RL recoil was pretty minimal. I've seen pickups with a CGL on the side work OK, and I'm pretty sure that has more recoil. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 11, 2010, 3:38 pm |
A few trader vehicles have drops but AI doesn't seem 2 use 'em.
Suggest AI drops all then reloads and uses old parameters with more aggro and phero-trail dropz. As 5th said..more diverse trader vehicle set and more sophisticated AI would be cool. The new spawns are more realistic but doesn't gel with AI base strategy and possibly easier than old line spawn..
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 11, 2010, 3:40 pm |
Traders with oil n spike drops definitely a cool idea..also allows bigger engines and/or gunz.
OD n CR would be nasty..even in a symph or spirit. |
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*Bastille* Posted Dec 12, 2010, 9:03 am |
The Trader Symphs with foj Cr rear can be effective. NPC traders you escort only use their drops if they are right back their and in heaps of trouble, or at least in my experience. Vans use their MDs on me a bit, as do the symphs. I find the phoe traders some of the nastiest, twin HMGs rear on a pho can be nasty with one chaser.
Trader Motorhome 5L light on armour 20 30 22 22 10 10 F: SS Sides: HR and mg Rear: Some drop weapon and some big gun? HMG and MD? Dual big guns? 2xHMG rear? PG and CGL rear? ATG/CGL rear? |
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Flaming savage Posted Dec 12, 2010, 9:59 am |
Isa the motorhome like the carrier van? Can you only get topshots? | ||||||
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*Bastille* Posted Dec 12, 2010, 11:01 am |
A hearse Trader vehicle would be interesting | ||||||
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Dec 12, 2010, 11:44 am |
Your wish is my command.
I think I accidentally put 15 armour on the top instead of 5, but you get the idea. |
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*Bastille* Posted Dec 12, 2010, 12:55 pm |
for death race mafia and privateer traders
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Dec 14, 2010, 3:59 pm |
More AI designs.
We need a second carrier van. "Yay, strongarm" *presses space* "crap". 
Another fast chaser. 
I think I may love HRs just a little too much. 
DW needs more tank guns, because tank guns are awesome. 
Ram cars are also awesome, as are flamethrowers. 
Mmmmm, flamethrowers. 
Yeah, I ran out of witty comments before I ran out of designs |
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*Tinker* Posted Dec 14, 2010, 7:17 pm |
nice! love the names
and it's nice to have to have a 5L npc |
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Lord Foul Posted Dec 15, 2010, 12:45 am |
While the name are good, some of the designs appear flawed when put into real action.
Texan buffalo Even with a 3.2v8 the can accelerates at a snails pace compare to other NPC cars. Downgrading to a 3.2 will make things worse and by the time the can gets to the battle, all the real threats to you will be dealt with and the van will be easy pickings. This is not taking into account that if the van fires moth ATG, the recoil will slow it down quite a bit. Reaver While a 5L is nice to see in the wild, the pike is a poor chaser when compared to many of the other interceptors. A wardance is a far greater threat than this reaver would be. Black flint A heavy paint spray in the rear would rarely ever get used and takes up to much space that could be used for better items. The heavy rockets will be fired by the ai even if out of range when the chassis turns away from damage. After that it has one main weapon to use on 1 facing. Gorgon A car with average acceleration, no ranged weapons, one close range weapon and an exposed engine. Appears to be a poor design unless you’re looking to see lots of explosions with this car catching fire and exploding from the HFT fuel. Manticore See Gorgon |
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*Dark Tempest* Posted Dec 15, 2010, 1:31 am |
Because the AI cars as they sit now are so good.
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Lord Foul Posted Dec 15, 2010, 2:36 am |
The best approach is to post the current builds that don’t work and why, then replace them with better designs and not keep the broken ones in the game. While it’s good to come up with new designs to present a better challenge, they need to be designed to have staying power in battle or not require the design to get within 20m to be effective. |
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*Bastille* Posted Dec 15, 2010, 3:16 am |
My motorhome design (purple haze) is probably a good example. I thought it was a great idea at the time, but they don't seem to pose much threat. A player might be able to make all the decisions to make great use of the above designs (I use something similar to the manticore, as Im sure many do with great success and enjoyment) but NPCs might struggle. I'm surprised at the tactics the AI do come up with for some designs .. the mulcher is not one of them.
That said, why not have a few rarer designs be a little awkward. Sometimes 5 rocket boats can get a bit boring or maybe even frustrating, and that purple haze lying on its side with a 5L is some good intensive to keep going. |
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ISHOULDCOCO Posted Dec 15, 2010, 8:42 am |
I don't like high CR NPC cars and I don't like Rares , especially not in player created designs. Give NPCs accurate , low Cr weapons
The Polt sucks , it is a land barge and way underpowered. The battleaxe is vulnerable to recoil and the gladiator never gets up to any speed for ramming. I suggest a 2.5 CHOMP with Max front armour , twin MMGs front and an HR left right and rear - Black rock for SS that might actually get closer than the other two. Double CGL estate - The AI is better at hanging back now , If this could get a rear GG and switched to Trader AI when enemy is within a certain distance and armour is below a certain value ? This is a cheap car with a low CR that should not biast the NPC team too much A BOX van for traders ! Why don't we have one of these already ? The jump between PUs and lorrys is massive , get the Boxer in there - twin rear CRs too Get a Voyager with twin CRs for escort too - it could justifiable have an exposed 4L up front if it had Trader AI How about a PU twin MGs front and FT left and right , 134cr? Old school , GGs overestimated in the hands of poor gunners More Windsor IIs and more Chomps and more cars with high toughness , that is what defeats players COCO |
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*Tinker* Posted Dec 15, 2010, 3:28 pm |
Yeah a v8, like a strongarm is bloody fast, don't said it isn't ... you have never been chased by one in a Windsor on the dunes? |
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*Ninesticks* Posted Dec 15, 2010, 4:32 pm |
Well said. Though I will say that is good to see players still coming up with ideas to mull over. |
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*Tinker* Posted Dec 15, 2010, 5:57 pm |
I disagree, HR on NPC are very worrisome, I always take out an overture before it gets close, because they tend to get lucky I would stick a another HR on the side instead of a HPS
I would get rid of the mulcher And what ever happened to the Desert Tank?? that thing was nuts |
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ISHOULDCOCO Posted Dec 15, 2010, 6:11 pm |
Desert tank had something like 12 side armour , it became a DR chassis
COCO |
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*Rev. V* Posted Dec 15, 2010, 6:19 pm |
On scouts, I take out anything with rockets first, just on general principle.
Damage aside, the disruption they produce makes me not like them coming my way. |
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*Tinker* Posted Dec 16, 2010, 4:56 pm |
It's not deemed of it's name then lol, how about with max armor? |
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iceman Posted Dec 16, 2010, 5:04 pm |
The kern and the BF II should have Windsor equivalents (BF I maybe?)
The Windsor I is a nice ride people should have the chance to get them more easily |
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*Dark Tempest* Posted Dec 16, 2010, 11:07 pm |
Absolutely not. Player camps need more exclusive low end items, taking away the few they have would only be detrimental to the smaller camps, and the entire camp system. | ||||||
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Serephe Posted Dec 16, 2010, 11:20 pm |
How many camps are producing the Windsor I? How many have you seen on the market recently? Seems rather odd that it's more rare than a buzzer. | ||||||
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*Dark Tempest* Posted Dec 17, 2010, 12:12 am |
I made around 20 of them, the last one rolled off around 3 months ago. People were never too interested but they sold. I stopped making them when people stopped buying. If enough people say they want them then a camp will start making them again. Until then, we've all moved on to other things. | ||||||
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Serephe Posted Dec 17, 2010, 12:35 am |
Well damn, good on you making them during my 7 month break. :P I'll buy 10-20 of them next time you make a bunch, depending on price. | ||||||
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*Bastille* Posted Dec 17, 2010, 1:00 am |
I'll buy a stack more off you too now DT Windsors Rock
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iceman Posted Dec 17, 2010, 1:00 am |
As I remember you were charging $100k each for them.... .....thats why i think they should spawn in the wild |
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*Dark Tempest* Posted Dec 17, 2010, 1:02 am |
LOL. Asgard just got set for HCR/3.2L V8 for the foreseeable future, but if there's that much demand for them again then that will probably be my next switch. I was 60K and camp and 100k in Somerset the last time Serephe, is that reasonable for you? | ||||||
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Serephe Posted Dec 17, 2010, 1:08 am |
I'd probably not buy that many for 100k a piece, but I'd still be interested in at least 4. | ||||||
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iceman Posted Dec 17, 2010, 9:27 pm |
Yes it seems it is pretty extortionate to him.... |
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zephar Posted Dec 29, 2010, 3:49 am |
I really like the hard work on the ops post and agree with it. | ||||||
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*Bastille* Posted Jan 3, 2011, 1:59 pm |
Hell Bandit
- Bandit with Spikes - Bandits often run out of ammo and are then not much trouble, this might make them a threat to breached vehicles. How do I make up the car data sheets? I use the car editor addon and can't figurer out how its done NVM, found it, although I seem to have an old version? 
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Gorde Posted Jan 3, 2011, 11:25 pm |
On my way home today (a two-hour drive), I saw three separate armored cars, and of course thought of this game. The banks and large companies use them all the time to haul valuables (Loomis is a big name in the industry). I reckon they handle much like a heavy SUV, but probably more stable, and certainly more armored. Are there enough around to justify making them a rare/very rare? I imagine they'd be a great alternative to a buzzer with perhaps more cargo room (though not as much as a box truck).
I've seen versions that look like bulky SUVs, and I've seen them look like vans bigger than humvees. One of the pics in the flash of this screen shows one of the larger trucks: http://www.loomis.us/products-services/Pages/default.aspx Worth a discussion, I guess. |
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Jan 6, 2011, 12:25 pm |
OK, some more heavy vehicles for use in the south. The idea is to add more challenge without adding a lot more rare loot. I'm hoping for designs that would be too scary to spawn in GW, if there is such a thing.
Morrigan should have A armour, but the carbuilder doesn't seem to have stored it that way. Meant to add, thanks to LF for the criticism on the last lot. I just post everything that comes into my head, so a filter is handy. Although I'll defend that carrier van to the death
One thing that this made me realise is that a 30-bulk rocket type weapon would really help the AI. Something part way between the RL and the MML - maybe firing 2 rockets per turn from an 8 round mag, at medium range? |
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Triferus Posted Jan 13, 2011, 2:37 am |
This one's already listed in the wiki as the "Nailgun". The wiki doesn't list whether it's used in the wilderness, arenas, or what though. |
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Serephe Posted Jan 13, 2011, 2:46 am |
Nailgun is found in the wilderness. | ||||||
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Triferus Posted Jan 13, 2011, 2:48 am |
Name: Mean Cadrona Chassis: Cadrona Rarity: Common/Uncommon Weapons: Front MMG Armor: 15/13/13/13/3/3 Tires: Standard Engine: 1.2L Characters: 1 Notes: Similar to the "Death Cardrona" that the wiki says is popular in Deathraces. This version is more combat oriented, making use of an enclosed engine and increased armor. Can probably use "C" armor as an NPC in the wild since it only adds 300 weight. |
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Triferus Posted Jan 13, 2011, 9:06 am |
Name: Fuel Trader Chassis: Tanker Rarity: Rare Armor Type: B Tires: Reinforced Engine: 8L Roll Cage: Yes Characters: 2-3 Notes: This is an NPC Trader transporting fuel instead of goods. The tanker has a Heavy Flamethrower on each side with the idea that they would make use of the fuel in the fuel tank (although the game doesn't actually allow this so it's just for flavor). A rear-mounted Mortar helps deter pursuers. There's a Reinforced Ram on the front and Mounted Spikes on the sides and rear. This Tanker can hold 500 units of fuel. Regarding the Spikes: I've read that the damage for Mounted Spikes is based on speed and the damage for Mounted Rams is based on the vehicle's weight. I guess this means vehicle speed doesn't matter to Mounted Rams + Reinforced Rams? If so, then replacing the Mounted Spikes with Mounted Rams on the sides and rear might be advisable. I didn't want guns because then more passengers would be required, plus I was going for a certain Mad Max theme. ;) |
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*Dark Tempest* Posted Jan 13, 2011, 4:23 pm |
Shouldn't that be a spike dropper rear? | ||||||
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*Rev. V* Posted Jan 13, 2011, 5:46 pm |
Um, say WHAT?!?!?!
There is no way any sane person would put a FLAMETHROWER on a tanker loaded with FUEL. Especially if people are shooting at the tanker and it could leak said fuel.... |
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Kornkob The Dude Posted Jan 13, 2011, 5:48 pm |
Who said traders were sane?
On the other hand, if you're trying to make money by raiding traders, why would you shoot at the lorry? Besides--- I'm all for anything that causes more big explody NPCs. |
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Triferus Posted Jan 13, 2011, 8:56 pm |
I would use drops but it's been said by many that the AI doesn't use dropped weapons effectively.
Normally I'd agree with you, but as I mentioned in the post, the idea is they're using the fuel to fuel the flamethrowers, which would make it so they didn't have to use separate fuel tanks for them. The game doesn't actually allow this however so it doesn't really work that way. If people think it's dumb then I suppose the flamethrowers could be replaced with Vehicular Shotguns. |
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*Rev. V* Posted Jan 13, 2011, 8:57 pm |
It's just that fire and gas seldom play well together....
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Fifth Posted Jan 13, 2011, 9:11 pm |
Who said sanity was the norm in Evan? |
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Triferus Posted Jan 16, 2011, 3:12 am |
I'd also like to add that the Flamethrowers add a chance for explosions when enemies shoot at it, which IMO adds to the role-play aspect of it being a fuel truck. However, I didn't put a flamer on the rear for the same reason. |
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*Tango* Posted Jan 16, 2011, 4:15 am |
SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!! Didn't you see the end of the movie? The tanker was loaded with sand! Sorry Tango's not currently of sound mind.
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Triferus Posted Jan 17, 2011, 10:20 am |
Name: Po' Boy Chassis: Symphony Rarity: Common Weapons: MGx2 Front Armor (Fr/Re/Lt/Rt/T/B): 20/16/18/18/3/4 Armor Type: B Tires: Standard Engine: 2L Characters: 3 (allowing for two dedicated gunners) Notes: This is a crude vehicle assembled using the most easily scavenged cars and parts possible. I think this might be something the Desert Hyenas like to use. It's also something some other northern gangs might use less frequently than the Desert Hyenas when they want to make use of their MGs but don't want to put them on a more valuable chassis. I tried quite a number of variants in DW:T and found accuracy was drastically improved when I added a 3rd ganger to the car to avoid having the driver shoot. Plus, it's a lot easier for gangs to find people with just Driving skill or just Gunnery skill than someone with both. I also found the weight of C armor was too much for this car. I was originally going to call this the "Somerset Special" since Somerset is the starter town and the car is made entirely with stuff available in Somerset. However, that name didn't fit. |
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Fifth Posted Jan 18, 2011, 3:18 am |
Farmhand
Wurzel 4L Standard Tyres Front 30 Rear 24 Left/Right 27 Top/Bottom 6 Front HMG/RL Driver and Gunner. |
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*sam* Posted Jan 18, 2011, 8:01 am |
I created a Wurzel wilderness build last night, BTW.. I see one has already been looted. I'll add a few of the suggestions from here now, thanks guys.. (sometimes I change names or tweak a bit, but still get inspiration from them) | ||||||
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*Bastille* Posted Jan 18, 2011, 9:06 am |
Bandit with spikes !..
oh ok....
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*Maxxed* Posted Jan 27, 2011, 4:54 am |
Possibly add a LR instead of second reload. Reckon it would be cool if all chassis had a wilderness model..even if very rare. |
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Triferus Posted Jan 29, 2011, 9:26 am |
Need a Racing Semi-Tractor with no weapons and a roll cage. | ||||||
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*Longo* Posted Feb 4, 2011, 9:29 pm |
Man, Id love to see a limo...... Wolf?
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Checkers Posted Feb 5, 2011, 11:05 am |
Checkers has totally been playing with the desktop builder.
Boomslang: "A rare, beautiful interceptor, feared in Southern Evan" CR 84 3.2LV8 Vampire Front: HGG A armour, Fr 21, Re 17, Le 17, Ri 17, Top 5, Bottom 5 Reinforced tyres 2 Unit Fueltank Packs a driver, gunner, and one HGG reload I figured people needed a V8 Vampire. Those things are ridiculous. Also, for the GW-Texan area: Dustoff: "Just try to outrun him. We dare you." 5L Moray Front: MMG A Armour, Fr 18, Re 16, Le 17, Ri 17, Top 6, Bottom 6 Offroad tyres 2 Unit Fueltank Seats a driver, gunner, and one MMG reload For extra lolz, Dustoff should always be black. |
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Feb 5, 2011, 1:30 pm |
Can't remember if I did one or not - I think I did. I'd be happy to do one if sam wants it though. |
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*Bastille* Posted Feb 6, 2011, 3:11 am |
In his best Irish accent ...
Yes Wolf, that is exactly what I want
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*Longo* Posted Feb 14, 2011, 10:33 pm |
Um yea...
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Groove Champion Posted Jul 2, 2011, 2:10 am |
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JS Posted Sep 19, 2011, 6:25 pm |
This one is dangerous, should definately be out there. Flamethrowers rarely get close enough, but like the paint throwers it is a valid threat because a Flamethrower can light an otherwise good car on fire. The Rocket launcher forces you consider that aspect as well. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 19, 2011, 6:27 pm |
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*Ninesticks* Posted Sep 19, 2011, 6:39 pm |
Pretty sure rotary engines are meant to be PC camp build items only, and 7lv12 engines come to think of it. | ||||||
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 19, 2011, 7:01 pm |
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 19, 2011, 7:03 pm |
I cant see any reason why...as lomg as they were as rare as hens teeth shouldn't effect supply and demand...and perhaps make it a little easier to score the occasional rare item without having to get into camp politics. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 19, 2011, 7:06 pm |
U can loot a military laser in the wilderness why not a rotary engine? | ||||||
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*jimmylogan* Posted Sep 19, 2011, 7:19 pm |
It has to do with camp decisions made some time ago. Camp only items were added to give a reason for camps - not necessarily a benefit, but something unique. Rocket Racks are also camp only. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 19, 2011, 7:22 pm |
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 19, 2011, 7:25 pm |
Being able to pump out your own rares using other gangs+npc labour is not unique enough? | ||||||
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*jimmylogan* Posted Sep 19, 2011, 8:40 pm |
A completely different debate. Generally speaking, most camps can't do this. ANY camp can pretty well make the hand weapons. It doesn't take much MR at all to make a 2L Rotary or the smaller rocket racks.
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 19, 2011, 10:38 pm |
Before the thread gets derailed on camp politics and the rich get richer debate...
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 19, 2011, 10:46 pm |
I would love to see another sunny build perhaps:
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JuaN VaLDeZ Posted Sep 20, 2011, 9:31 am |
This would work well classed as a trader. With current AI movements for traders, and allowing it to use the OJ, this would be a good trader classed escort.
It would be nice to see the Corghette spawn since no one likes using it, and something that spawns a OJ would be a nice addition too. 8 Bulk remains, I was considering adding a MRP rear, they get destroyed with the first breach usually anyways... Maybe add a mounted ram on the front 
21/18/17/17/6/5 Another option for down south: (armor slightly reduced to keep weight at exactly 4000lbs) 
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JuaN VaLDeZ Posted Sep 20, 2011, 9:50 am |
Here is one camp owners will just LOVE
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 21, 2011, 12:36 pm |
NB: reduced armour.
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 21, 2011, 12:50 pm |
Hopefully the C armour will mean that it is not at the head of the pack all the time yet it should be fast enough and heavy enough to ram.
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 21, 2011, 12:51 pm |
probably should take the rockets off and put in a roll cage...then again they are only NPCs... | ||||||
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 21, 2011, 12:55 pm |
A 3.2V8 could be used by reducing the firepower to MMG+RL if the ultravets are too stingy to share their rare equipment... | ||||||
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 21, 2011, 1:00 pm |
This is probably a more sensible build anyway as allows for a gunner...
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 21, 2011, 1:37 pm |
HMG would be more practical but RL goes better with the name. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 21, 2011, 1:46 pm |
...forgot to add the mini rocket. |
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Groove Champion Posted Sep 22, 2011, 12:36 am |
It's tempting to simply submit cool chassis with cool guns on them, but since they will only spawn rarely, it would be much better -for the sake of diversity among common vehicle- to suggest variations of chassis that are often seen, with common weapons. | ||||||
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 22, 2011, 12:36 am |
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 22, 2011, 12:47 am |
I agree...but my objective is to do a model of every chassis as i firmly believe that all chassis types should have a wilderness build and furthermore I believe that the small amount of coding to have a greater variety of NPC builds will have a bigger impact on long term playability than new chassis types or pretty much anything people are pushing for. In fact I'll take this a step further...i believe all chassis types and equipment types (yes including rocket racks, rotaries and V12s) should appear in the wild. |
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Groove Champion Posted Sep 22, 2011, 1:11 am |
Ah. Then I won't interfere
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 22, 2011, 2:50 am |
I definitely agree Groove...the primary need for NPC builds IMHO is a greater diversity of models in the common chassis types...a few select builds with the weapons that are rare that should be ubiquitous or at least available through wilderness looting like mounted rams/spikes,spike droppers, oil jets, HOJ, HPS, MRP, nitro and smoke screens would go a long way to making scouting(and looting) much more challenging and enjoyable.
If anyone else has any ideas please add 'em. The carbuilder can be found here Unfortunately a couple of the chassis don't work as you cannot armour them and it wont let you configure a car with zero armour. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 22, 2011, 2:57 am |
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Lord Foul Posted Sep 22, 2011, 3:34 am |
While some of your builds are interesting Maxx, many would not work well in the wilderness.
The reason you don't see dropped weapons as loot on 98% of chassi is due to the AI not knowing to use them and the player easily avoiding them. It's added CR that does not get used and weakens the threat the NPC can have on the player. Even some of the builds you have with rear dropped weapons would not get used, like the trash truck as you would never normally chase a trash truck. Dropped weapons are for the most part easily obtainable since they are low tech. Any small camp can make pretty much all dropped weapons with a low mech rating. I would rather see small camps making/offering them, then see tons of common chassis equip with them. Thanks for the effort |
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*Bastille* Posted Sep 22, 2011, 4:10 am |
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 22, 2011, 9:11 am |
Modding the AI code for dropped weapons would not be a difficult one...basically "have drops start dropping" would be more effective than whatever the current IFTHEN argument is...in most cases where I have included drops the vehicle would be assumed to be running on a similar AI pattern to traders and escorts (eg trade runner)
Furthermore in my experience the AI handles maneuvering around dropped hazards exceptionally well(arguably better than most players) although it does often delay them considerabley as they tend to go right round rather than threading the needle as players are want to do so increasing the aggressiveness of drops will have considerable impact on AI survivability in trader scouts which are currently much easier and generally more lucrative than vanilla scouts. As you say this is low tech stuff...especially things like spike droppers and mounted spikes...which is not going to affect the balance in the game no matter how ubiquitous they are... I would rather see NPC vehicles misusing drops than have to hassle camp owners for special orders for a weapon that I could make in my backyard that is rarely available in town marketplaces. All camps have marketplaces but they are rarely used except for listing high cost passworded items. Of all the monopolies the supervets have surely they could give up the humble spike dropper, mounted spikes and mounted rams so that EVERYONE can field fun vehicles with low bulk low CR weapons that nicely fill in those gaps in bulk that would otherwise be filled with an extraneous ammo clip or a dull light rocket. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 22, 2011, 9:14 am |
P.S. In cases where drops are included on non 'runner' vehicles the thought is that in time Sam will de-nerf the drop behaviour so that NPCs would use drops effectively in dogfights.
Even under existing AI behaviour(more so recently I might add) the AI occasionally uses drops highly effectively. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 23, 2011, 6:53 am |
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 24, 2011, 8:33 am |
I've just noticed a bug with the carbuilder - regardless of what armour u pick it will display B-armour.
Crusty should have A-armour for example. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 24, 2011, 8:34 am |
...as should the 4L trader van - either that or it will need more armour to be functional. | ||||||
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 24, 2011, 8:47 am |
This would work as a deathracer,arena or wilderness build. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Sep 26, 2011, 8:43 am |
NB: A-Armour |
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Fifth Posted Jan 22, 2012, 9:57 pm |
Firestarter
In Somerset and Elmsfield, should be about as common as Da Vincis or King Silages. Spirit Chassis Same armor scheme as Poltergeist Front: HMG, Napalm Gun Left: MML Right: MML Lots of Napalm Gun ammo, and the same kind of 'stop and fire artillery' AI as the King Silage. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Jan 30, 2012, 4:35 am |
Are there any AI cars with the napalm gun?
On a seperate note I would love to see the AI behaviour modified to make them more assertive with drops and some new trader builds would be awesome! I understand that every change requires some coding and that Sam is only human but perhaps if certain things like the template used for new vehicles was accessible players could do the elementary coding for such things so that sam just needed to compile them and do basic tweaking? Despite being a single developer game I like to think that the community also develops the game and perhaps Sam could pass things down the line for development by delegated individuals within the community. |
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Jake Nikodemus Posted Feb 7, 2012, 7:59 pm |
I would like to see a VW Beetle.
-Jake |
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*Wolfsbane* Posted Feb 13, 2012, 10:34 pm |
Done it (and the armoured car). Just need to wait for it to filter up sam's priority list. It's been 18 months so far, so you'll probably want to be patient. | ||||||
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*Bastille* Posted Feb 13, 2012, 10:45 pm |
Yeah, or the Combi,
I started a skin for that old school style (double side doors, no windows, WWII german style, Beetle in this finish would be cool too) I just need to fix the skin for teh front end, some stretching over the lights was my issue, but pretty sure I can work around that. Your skin for it was pretty awesome too Wolf. I found a cool hippy skin for it too, that someone else had on the net (found it just with google search) even had surf boards on the roof Traders AI behavior The Cacophony has some cool use of the foj. Vans can be quite devious with that MD at times. Glad they don't drop more or guarding them in trade convoys would become very tricky, could have something to do with it
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Snidely Carmichael Posted Apr 19, 2012, 4:39 am |
Sam, what with the new tracks and all, may we have a racing BPU, please? A armor, rollcage, 5LV8?
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 6, 2012, 4:51 am |
 {was supposed to have C armour}
Also would love to see a Da Vinvi with an NG...called Pyro merc or summin... |
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 6, 2012, 5:03 am |
With a reload for the ATG and MMG |
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 6, 2012, 10:33 pm |
I noticed that despite selecting a or C armour that it always displays B armour. Until this is fixed i would suggest stating that the vehicle should have A or C armour.
A number of players have stated in lobby that they are keen to see some new NPC builds (particularly more stock cars for deathraces.) I would love to see some more ideas listed on this thread. |
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*K1500* Posted Nov 7, 2012, 12:36 am |
I'd love to see my rampho build being used in the wild by the AI - they seem to be suicidal enough for it.
Should be C armour for the extra ramming weight and 1 HMG mag (though it only seats one person so kind of a non-issue)... |
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 7, 2012, 12:42 am |
Love the rampho but for an NPC build would suggest an armour layout like 21/18/16/16/8/5
Players tend to be more likely to snipe so most NPC vehicles carry more top armour than players. |
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*K1500* Posted Nov 7, 2012, 1:04 am |
Yeah thats a pretty fair call actually - just dumped down the build I already had on the site. |
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Groove Champion Posted Nov 7, 2012, 1:38 am |
NPCs tend to shoot every chance they get: I think an HMG's recoil would slow it down too much.
Perhaps a Car Rifle would be better since it inflicts no recoil on the shooting vehicle. |
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*JeeTeeOh* Posted Nov 7, 2012, 2:01 am |
YES. |
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*Snipe* Posted Nov 7, 2012, 3:00 am |
or - even better - a RL (which I have used with rams with wonderful effect) | ||||||
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*K1500* Posted Nov 7, 2012, 3:16 am |
Fair call on the HMG and the differences on the AI's handling of the vehicles. I partially used a HMG because of it's weight - RL would be a suitable change (and it matches the current bulk/ammo ratio).
Splash damage up close with a rammer is always nice (I use ATG's on my rampaches). The lower ammo count may go someways to balancing it out a bit against players (seeing as it's a driver only car). |
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JS Posted Nov 7, 2012, 10:58 am |
NPC cars don't really seem to be limted by the physics like we are. Their cars do not appear to have as bad a recoil as player cars. Never really seen an NPC car knocked far off line by its own firing. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 17, 2012, 9:36 am |
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*Bastille* Posted Nov 17, 2012, 11:47 am |
Phos... they charge in hard and straight at you. They need a ram design.
4L ReRam/hmg front |
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Serephe Posted Nov 17, 2012, 12:23 pm |
I miss the masses of underarmored exposed engine monstrosities from the past.
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 19, 2012, 11:22 am |
Speaking of exposed engines...
i would love to see some new trader designs perhaps: 
1 relaod for each weapon and maybe A - armour? |
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 19, 2012, 12:57 pm |
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 19, 2012, 8:58 pm |
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Blackwill Posted Nov 19, 2012, 9:07 pm |
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 19, 2012, 9:09 pm |
2 MMG reload 1 FOJ reload and maybe C armour(would love to see more C-armoured vehicles) EDIT: Obviously the FOJ would be on the rear.... |
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 19, 2012, 9:10 pm |
From the carbuilder...once you build your design, go to the vehicle page...copy the URL, paste into the forum-reply window then highlight the link and click IMG. |
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Blackwill Posted Nov 19, 2012, 9:44 pm |
Front mounted Flaming Oil Jet?? Plan on doing a lot of driving in reverse? | ||||||
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*Tinker* Posted Nov 19, 2012, 10:06 pm |
That doesn't work for me, the best id do is : edit: LOL never mind your talking about Allo's car builder? thought it was the dw site with a bit of Sam's php magic.. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 20, 2012, 1:41 pm |
The ap carbuilder doesnt work but the web based one does still...although it has a couple of bugs and not all current weapons and chassis types are listed.
Any chance of getting the code for this - couldnt be too hard to update... |
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 20, 2012, 1:47 pm |
Once upon a time in a galaxy far far away i added a rocketbooster to the front of my TT (assuming that no1 would want to go backwards that fast and hence it was just gunna use a front weapon slot and i had planned to use it as a heavy courier...survived but only thanks to the awesome power of HFOJ+MD, HSS and ATG-HMG combos on the side) It's good to see someone is actually considering my new designs! |
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*Longo* Posted Nov 20, 2012, 6:11 pm |
Having C armored NPC vehicles would only handicap the NPC cars. They wouldnt be able to go as fast. All chassis regardless of armor type sell back to the NPC shop for the same price...it was a fix Sam made a long time ago. And lets face it, most new people would be re-using these looted trader cars, and they wouldnt have the money to change the armor back to B, making the game harder for new people? |
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 20, 2012, 7:23 pm |
Not being able to go as fast may not be as much as a handicap as you think...C armoured phos wouldnt rush straight in and would be heavier when they rammed...slower vehicle could also hang back and use things like CGL more effectively.
And more armour diversity ultimately would add a bit more variety. Not sure what u mean about the chassis being the same price regardless of armour type...pretty sure you get more for an a armoured vehicle stripped of weapons (like a pegasus) and sure as heck costs more to replace! |
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*Longo* Posted Nov 20, 2012, 7:29 pm |
When Dark-wind was new alot more players used "C" armor on their cars...its a handicap...you get stuck in the sand, can't go up hills...
It is the same. It was something Sam changed back when people were looting Pegasus cars and selling them for alot of cash. Just to make sure this wasnt "changed back", I looked at 2 of my buzzers in the same town, one with A armor, and the other with B. The sell back price was the same. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Nov 21, 2012, 7:16 am |
The C armour would justify som lightly armourec, overgunned beasties with exposed engines though! | ||||||
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*Bastille* Posted Nov 21, 2012, 8:47 am |
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Juris Posted Nov 21, 2012, 4:38 pm |
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 4, 2012, 5:52 am |
Variety is the spice of life! Maybe we could have a competition! An arena where the winner design is added plus a judges choice or something? | ||||||
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 9, 2012, 4:27 pm |
If i only i knew how to sing... |
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 9, 2012, 4:32 pm |
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Groove Champion Posted Dec 9, 2012, 4:32 pm |
I like this idea. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 9, 2012, 4:36 pm |
[img]http://dw.laasma.ee/carbuilder/view/522/default.png[/img]
EDIT: Not sure why the image isnt working but the short description is as follows: Firebrand is a sunrise with a 4L engine. It runs on standard tires and has a 2 unit fueltank. It has a total of 84 units of grade B armor. It also packs 4 weapons - Front: Flamethrower, Reinforced Ram Left: Light Rocket Right: Light Rocket All this and makes Firebrand weigh in at 5245 units. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 9, 2012, 4:50 pm |
I would be happy to sponsor prizes and organize or whatever but not sure of the best format to use. Any suggestions appreciated! Once the idea is consolidated I will PM Sam with the details and cross my fingers. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 9, 2012, 5:05 pm |
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*Tinker* Posted Dec 12, 2012, 8:50 pm |
ah come on, having a sprinkle of C armor in the wild would make for a different scouting experience, variety is king right? as for people would reuse them since it would be too expensive to replace the armor, all they have to do is sell it for the same value as B armor loot, what's the problem? we got C armor, been never used in the wild (outside of scav) what gives? |
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 12, 2012, 9:30 pm |
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 16, 2012, 10:28 am |
Nobody wants to hear me sing... | ||||||
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 18, 2012, 5:49 am |
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 21, 2012, 8:15 am |
Substitute the CGL for a Napalm gun...and possibly the MD for an Antitank Gun... |
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Necrotech Posted Jan 1, 2013, 8:38 am |
I am wondering if I should subscribe to AADA Quarterly right about now...
Or the Vehicle Guides... (King Crab, BABY YEAH!) |
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*Maxxed* Posted Jan 1, 2013, 11:40 am |
Seems a shame that a cool chassis only has 1 crappy trader build...
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*Maxxed* Posted Jan 1, 2013, 11:42 am |
There are quite a few builds straight outta ADQ..the Tex Strongarm springs to mind...although it had a TG... | ||||||
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*Tinker* Posted Jan 3, 2013, 11:13 am |
Like Beefcake and the last iteration of the lorry Road King | ||||||
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*Maxxed* Posted Jan 5, 2013, 1:18 am |
Is it particularly labourious to add new models?
This thread has been running for quite a while now and there definitely seems like there is community enthusiasm for new NPC and stockcar builds. Admittedly I have been focussed on wilderness builds but I'm planning on listing a whole bunch of deathrace and arena builds as I think these events would be more popular if A) there was a bit more armour on builds and more interesting weapons combos.
There are a plethera of stockbuilds currently but an audit of player chosen vehicles and events will show that some of these builds are not desirable by players - hence not used. Perhaps the underutilized builds could be disbanded and replaced with some newer builds? |
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*Maxxed* Posted Jan 6, 2013, 1:05 am |
NB: A armoured |
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*Maxxed* Posted Jan 6, 2013, 1:15 am |
Notes: A armoured - prizes for deathraces with this build should be increased 10x fold |
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*Bastille* Posted Jan 6, 2013, 1:15 am |
I like the idea of more NPC builds, for both wild and track.
Maybe someone should look through all these and pick out some that might work, and or change bits of em to work. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Jan 8, 2013, 6:36 am |
If I could work out the voting thing i coud doa poll...there is also some enthusiasm for an event where the winning vehicle might be added to the NPC vehicle pool(possibly with a judges choice as well as the winning vehicle) | ||||||
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 17, 2013, 10:05 am |
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*Bastille* Posted Dec 17, 2013, 11:30 am |
Made poll
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Lord Foul Posted Dec 18, 2013, 6:00 am |
Asleep for the past 12 months? lol
Is that you Santa? lol |
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*Bastille* Posted Dec 18, 2013, 12:51 pm |
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 18, 2013, 3:13 pm |
Baz...you sir are a legend, a gentleman and a scholar.
BTW it would be great if the vehicle designer had the new chassis and weapons that have been added in the last few years. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 18, 2013, 3:24 pm |
...with a reload for each of the front guns. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 18, 2013, 3:38 pm |
A serious trade escort.... |
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PvtParty Posted Dec 18, 2013, 4:17 pm |
Cappuccino ?? Oh, the Cappuccino is a 2L Hotrod with Rocket Booster rear...
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 19, 2013, 1:47 pm |
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*Maxxed* Posted Dec 19, 2013, 1:50 pm |
It's supposed gto have A armour but the carbuilder doesn't show it...also think it always shows fuel tank=2 regardless of what u actually fit out. | ||||||
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*Bastille* Posted Dec 20, 2013, 1:36 pm |
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*Bastille* Posted Jan 17, 2014, 12:49 am |
and remember, theres lots of builds here presented by the community to look through for new cars and stuffs | ||||||
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Juris Posted Jan 17, 2014, 1:01 am |
I renew my suggestion that all DW Vets get to submit a new vehicle
Or pay a million for each
Or just do what Max says b/c he's been submitting NPC designs for four years lol |
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*Maxxed* Posted Jan 21, 2014, 4:05 pm |
How about you get to add a vehicle design if you resub for 12 months? If the designs are ridiculously powerful/silly they could always be made uber rare. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Jan 21, 2014, 4:27 pm |
It seems that a Wurzel with a Napalm Gun should be one of the five, now for the specifics.... Can one of you pollstars whip something up? As I doubt we will be able to agree otherwise being the belligerent lot that we are... I would still love to see another wurzel build but suggest we dont waste 2 of our 5 options on a tractor that is a bit of a white (or should that be pink! ) elephant.
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*Maxxed* Posted Jan 21, 2014, 4:42 pm |
They say the squeaky wheel gets the grease...but in the case of DW forums perhaps 'gets greased' is more appropritae!
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Leonine Posted Mar 20, 2014, 11:46 pm |
Really guys! Please add a bunch of these NPC vehicles!
This would add to variety in all arena/outdoor events. The Arena cars can use lots of rare weapons and chassis, feel free to use rotary engines etc., since they belong to the racetrack, while outdoor ones must be game balanced for region/distribution etc. and hence require a bit more caution. For Arena cars, generally you can have a Deathrace version, and just strip the weapons, add a rollcage and A a armour for a Race version. Some cars should be strictly for a Combat event list, given they may be heavy and slow, and some Deathracers may be less than ideal for Combat. For many events, have the computer randomize the NPC's across all suitable designs, especially any "pro" events where players have their own cars. This would take very little programming time, just a bunch of designs and a few lists, and greatly shake up events. |
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*Maxxed* Posted Jun 17, 2014, 11:49 am |
WE DEFINITELY NEED A NEW POOL OF DEATHRACERS
Plus death-races with a variety of stock cars...preferably new-builds with rear mounted weapons and drops. |
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*Bastille* Posted Jun 17, 2014, 1:16 pm |
+ 1 and perma damage on arena combat and death race vehicles |