FireFly Posted Oct 27, 2009, 11:57 pm	Some of the prizes seem weird, take the GW winter meltdown, a buccaneer for first, a LASER for second and a HCR for third? Shouldn't it be Laser, HCR, Buccaneer? As it stands, I would rather get second than first.
The Paranoid Tourist Posted Oct 28, 2009, 1:06 am	Yeah, that happens. Maybe the cash is meant to offset that.
Joel Autobaun Posted Oct 28, 2009, 1:12 am	IT happens too often. Is it that hard to make it so say a Laser becomes 1st prize if is something like a buccy? Liek they just swap. Kinda ridiculous have to try to "lose" to get the laser.
FireFly Posted Oct 28, 2009, 1:15 am	Joel Autobaun said: IT happens too often.  Is it that hard to make it so say a Laser becomes 1st prize if is something like a buccy?  Liek they just swap. Kinda ridiculous have to try to "lose" to get the laser. Looks like we are competing for second place here!
Lord Foul Posted Oct 28, 2009, 2:36 am	It can happen in any of the leagues. For first place I won a "pike" Second place got a "Mortar" Just wait, some day you'll see an RGM show up as a 3rd place prize.
Joel Autobaun Posted Oct 28, 2009, 2:38 am	I know it happens in all of them. If it's a league with sponsorsit's usually worth winning regardless, but I have specifically got 2nd place for the mounted mortar a couple times.
Iron Wraith Posted Nov 17, 2009, 11:47 pm	I would suggest it actually takes more skill to deliberately gain second place, than to just use superior gangers to grab first. Maybe thats the challenge. Oh and its FREE stuff. Mouth horse look gift.
*sam* Posted Nov 18, 2009, 11:41 am	Joel Autobaun said: say a Laser becomes 1st prize if is something like a buccy?  Liek they just swap. yeah, I'll do this for next season and manually look at any leagues that have not yet started this seson.
*sam* Posted Nov 18, 2009, 12:05 pm	Actually the main issue here might be the 'desirability' values that I have assigned to the hardware, rather than a coding problem as such. Here's the current 'desirability' values. I'm happy to change any of these (I can see the laser looks very low, for example, and the rocket racks too high): Weapons Heavy Laser    190000 Radar Guided Missile    150000 Heavy Rocket Rack    90000 Medium Rocket Rack    70000 Mounted Mortar    65000 Tank Gun    60000 Rocket Booster    60000 Light Rocket Rack    50000 Mini Rocket Pod    50000 Heavy Gatling Gun    40000 Laser    30000 Heavy Car Rifle    15000 Flechette Gun    5000 Nitro Booster    5000 Anti Tank Gun    5000 Chassis Fire Engine    240000 Ambulance    225000 McFly    220000 Roadrunner    220000 Squadcar    215000 Turin    210000 Cougar    210000 DeVille    205000 Fiftyseven    200000 McKenzie    200000 Hotrod    160000 Royal Eaton    140000 Stormer    125000 Pike    100000 Buzzer    80000 Osprey    75000 Hearse    50000 Flail    50000 Bus    40000 Moray    40000 Bullet    5000 Semi Tractor    5000 Buccaneer    5000
*Wolfsbane* Posted Nov 18, 2009, 12:23 pm	I'm surprised ATG is in there but Car Cannon isn't, especially since I picked up an ATG at Jake's the other day (without hero points, I might add).
FireFly Posted Nov 18, 2009, 12:55 pm	In the chassis, the osprey is way to low, that's for sure, and as he said, replace the ATG with car cannons, also, I would call the RGM more desirable than the heavy lasers, just for the rarity of the thing. The HCR and HGG should also change places
*sam* Posted Nov 18, 2009, 1:42 pm	Osprey to 150000 ? HCR to 45000 ? What value should the Laser be at?
FireFly Posted Nov 18, 2009, 1:47 pm	I'd say, osprey 130000, under the eaton, over the stormer. Laser, I would say 60000, in the tank gun/rocket booster group
*sam* Posted Nov 18, 2009, 2:34 pm	Ok, thnx
*goat starer* Posted Nov 18, 2009, 2:50 pm	rearranged Weapons Radar Guided Missile (not lootable.... has to be more desirable than a lootable H Laser) Heavy Laser Mounted Mortar Laser Tank Gun Heavy Car Rifle Car Cannon Rocket Booster Heavy Rocket Rack Flechette Gun Medium Rocket Rack Light Rocket Rack Mini Rocket Pod Heavy Gatling Gun Anti Tank Gun Nitro Booster Chassis Squadcar Ambulance Fire Engine McFly Roadrunner Cougar DeVille Fiftyseven McKenzie Turin Osprey Royal Eaton Hotrod Buzzer Flail Stormer Pike Buccaneer Moray Hearse Bullet Bus Semi Tractor
*Grograt* gary.r.horder@gmail.com Posted Nov 18, 2009, 2:52 pm	yep id go with goats pricing to be honest...now get some RGM's and squad cars in them there events Mr. Sam
*sam* Posted Nov 18, 2009, 3:16 pm	Thanks goat... any chance you could suggest the acutal 'desirability numbers'? These range from about 5000 to above 200000, as you can see.
*goat starer* Posted Nov 18, 2009, 5:18 pm	*sam* said: Thanks goat... any chance you could suggest the acutal 'desirability numbers'?  These range from about 5000 to above 200000, as you can see. you dont want much do you! lol here is a go.. based on what i would want and how much (and ignoring my much publiscised hatred of lasers) Weapons Radar Guided Missile        220000 Heavy Laser                    200000 Mounted Mortar                180000 Laser                              170000 Tank Gun                        100000 Heavy Car Rifle                80000 Car Cannon                      70000 Rocket Booster                  45000 Heavy Rocket Rack            30000 Flechette Gun                    20000 Medium Rocket Rack          20000 Light Rocket Rack              15000 Mini Rocket Pod                  10000 Heavy Gatling Gun              5000 Anti Tank Gun                    5000 Nitro Booster                      5000 Chassis Squadcar                      220000 Ambulance                    200000 Fire Engine                    200000 McFly                            180000 Roadrunner                  170000 Cougar                        160000 DeVille                          160000 Fiftyseven                    150000 McKenzie                      150000 Turin                            130000 Osprey                        100000 Royal Eaton                  70000 Hotrod                          70000 Buzzer                          60000 Flail                              50000 Stormer                        30000 Pike                              30000 Buccaneer                      20000 Moray                            20000 Hearse                          10000 Bullet                            10000 Bus                              5000 Semi Tractor                  5000
*Longo* Posted Nov 18, 2009, 10:35 pm	goat starer said: *sam* said: Thanks goat... any chance you could suggest the acutal 'desirability numbers'?  These range from about 5000 to above 200000, as you can see. you dont want much do you! lol here is a go.. based on what i would want and how much (and ignoring my much publiscised hatred of lasers) Weapons Radar Guided Missile        220000 Heavy Laser                    200000 Mounted Mortar                180000 Laser                              170000 Tank Gun                        100000 Heavy Car Rifle                80000 Car Cannon                      70000 Rocket Booster                  45000 Heavy Rocket Rack            30000 Flechette Gun                    20000 Medium Rocket Rack          20000 Light Rocket Rack              15000 Mini Rocket Pod                  10000 Heavy Gatling Gun              5000 Anti Tank Gun                    5000 Nitro Booster                      5000 Chassis Squadcar                      220000 Ambulance                    200000 Fire Engine                    200000 McFly                            180000 Roadrunner                  170000 Cougar                        160000 DeVille                          160000 Fiftyseven                    150000 McKenzie                      150000 Turin                            130000 Osprey                        100000 Royal Eaton                  70000 Hotrod                          70000 Buzzer                          60000 Flail                              50000 Stormer                        30000 Pike                              30000 Buccaneer                      20000 Moray                            20000 Hearse                          10000 Bullet                            10000 Bus                              5000 Semi Tractor                  5000 -Id make Hlaser and RGM the same. -Under chassis, eliminate the Semi Tractor. It has no use at all until trailers are added. -Drop the hearse to 5000. -Fire Engine and Squadcar should change places. Squadcars armor isnt that strong. Its the rarest car at the moment, but surely not the best sedan in the game. Sam  -Add some Engines? 7LV12 and 5LV12 at 220000 5LV8 at 150000 Other than that, great job Goat.
*Wolfsbane* Posted Nov 18, 2009, 11:05 pm	Don't eliminate the semi tractor. How else will I get one to scout with?
Joel Autobaun Posted Nov 18, 2009, 11:21 pm	I would get rid of the Semi-Tractor until trailers are in. I would get rid of ATG/HGG/moray/hearse and bullet because these chassis have become merely uncommon, but often people with only 3 weeks under their belt have these(or better). If not, make them more rare in wild and at shops.
*goat starer* Posted Nov 19, 2009, 12:07 am	think longos suggestions are right. dont agree with joel.. whilst those are only uncommon they are still prized in ss and i cant see them being prizes for anything but small leagues in ss. Wolf.. semi tractor can be purchased in GW and BL and other towns quite often in the shop
*sam* Posted Nov 19, 2009, 9:32 am	Thanks guys!
*Wolfsbane* Posted Nov 19, 2009, 11:24 am	Really? Right, look out world...
*Grograt* gary.r.horder@gmail.com Posted Nov 19, 2009, 11:51 am	6 in bl at moment wolf....
*Wolfsbane* Posted Nov 19, 2009, 12:24 pm	Hmm. Ah well, I needed to move to BL at some point anyway. (heads off to spec out a flash for transport duty)