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Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 *Tango* said: If that's how you want things to go there are two basic problems to make it tenable for players.  Firstly the more CR we bring to defend a Lorry the more CR they bring to attack it.  Secondly Lorry armor is pitifully weak.  Lorries catch missed rockets like a battleship is a bomb magnet and it only takes a couple till there is a breach.  Please take these facts into account before making any changes. I guess products on the SS marketplace will now be worth their inflated price. ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Apr 12, 2012, 9:42 pm

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 I just played an encounter on this new map: I like it a lot! It incorporates tougher map elements from the South into a Northern look. Jagged rocks will force you to keep your speed lower, so will uneven terrain and roads. There are also some very nice spots to snipe from, for those so inclined. Very nice, Bast! ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Apr 13, 2012, 3:58 am

*Ayjona* Edgerunners Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 515 Joined: Dec 6, 2006 Internetz in abundance to Bast. Sam, what will become of this proud one man indie project, now that you seem to be gathering quite a large collection of skilled individuals around you? Is Darkwind in danger of going AAA? ......................... vet marshal wv Posted Apr 13, 2012, 5:15 am

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,492 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 I pretty much always have to defend my lorries anyway... not worry about this map at all. ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped4,16,10 Posted Apr 13, 2012, 5:22 am

*Tango* 2ManyRads CI Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,543 Joined: Mar 21, 2010 d0dger said: I pretty much always have to defend my lorries anyway... not worry about this map at all. It's usually faster to defend your lorry.  No problem with the map, I was referring to any additional changes. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp5 pvp4 combat1 pvp3 zom community Posted Apr 13, 2012, 11:52 am

*Ninesticks* The Wombles Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 3,371 Joined: Apr 11, 2008 That map down south, craters or whatever it is called is, imo, a far harder one to run and defend lorries on in all fairness, and it is nowhere near as daunting as the maze like one between Texan and Sarsfield. Not saying those concerns are invalid at all, just pointing out that there are worse places out there to be taking a lorry through. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp4 community pvp20,1,0 Posted Apr 13, 2012, 7:19 pm

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,659 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 Hehe -- Lorries on FL maps anyone? heheh. I havent gotten this one yet, but cant be worse than those, hehe ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Apr 13, 2012, 7:40 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Longo said: Hehe  -- Lorries on FL maps anyone? heheh. I havent gotten this one yet, but cant be worse than those, hehe HFOJ's solve most issues on those thin maps if you can drive  The maze is by far the worst map in the game for lorries thou ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Apr 13, 2012, 7:40 pm Last edited Apr 13, 2012, 7:41 pm by FireFly

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,659 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 FireFly said: Longo said: Hehe  -- Lorries on FL maps anyone? heheh. I havent gotten this one yet, but cant be worse than those, hehe HFOJ's solve most issues on those thin maps if you can drive  The maze is by far the worst map in the game for lorries thou Surely you jest? You just cant make some of the hills on FL maps in a lorry. Over the years I have lost a ton of A armored lorries with RBs. ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Apr 13, 2012, 7:48 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Longo said: FireFly said: Longo said: Hehe  -- Lorries on FL maps anyone? heheh. I havent gotten this one yet, but cant be worse than those, hehe HFOJ's solve most issues on those thin maps if you can drive  The maze is by far the worst map in the game for lorries thou Surely you jest? You just cant make some of the hills on FL maps in a lorry. Over the years I have lost a ton of A armored lorries with RBs. 8 or 9.4's? I'm not saying it's easy, I'm just saying that The Maze is even worse  The maze is the only map in the game I ever lost 3 lorries in the same event in...  ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Apr 13, 2012, 8:07 pm

Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 Wait, why is losing lorries a bad thing? Kaboom. ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted Apr 13, 2012, 8:29 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Lost a lorry recently with mortars/ 5Lv12 and half a year of 3L rot/HCR production goodies...in acidland. It happens, if it didn't we'd all prolly barely lose anything. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Apr 13, 2012, 9:16 pm

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,659 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 Joel Autobaun said: Lost a lorry recently with mortars/ 5Lv12 and half a year of 3L rot/HCR production goodies...in acidland.  It happens, if it didn't we'd all prolly barely lose anything. I hate that. I remember once I lost a lorry and at the time I calculated the loss at 30 million based upon the market value of the goods inside. I think I quit playing for 2 weeks after that hehe. ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Apr 13, 2012, 10:36 pm Last edited Apr 13, 2012, 10:36 pm by Longo

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,492 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 Longo said: Joel Autobaun said: Lost a lorry recently with mortars/ 5Lv12 and half a year of 3L rot/HCR production goodies...in acidland.  It happens, if it didn't we'd all prolly barely lose anything. I hate that. I remember once I lost a lorry and at the time I calculated the loss at 30 million based upon the market value of the goods inside. I think I quit playing for 2 weeks after that hehe. I have an emergency backup plan that's near guaranteed to save the lorry and it's load no matter what, but it does require their to be escorts in the squad. ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped4,16,10 Posted Apr 13, 2012, 11:00 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 d0dger said: Longo said: Joel Autobaun said: Lost a lorry recently with mortars/ 5Lv12 and half a year of 3L rot/HCR production goodies...in acidland.  It happens, if it didn't we'd all prolly barely lose anything. I hate that. I remember once I lost a lorry and at the time I calculated the loss at 30 million based upon the market value of the goods inside. I think I quit playing for 2 weeks after that hehe. I have an emergency backup plan that's near guaranteed to save the lorry and it's load no matter what, but it does require their to be escorts in the squad. lol I'm actually quite insulted.  I had 3 including a tank gun on the lorry(which is usually enough on it's own.).  Only lost the lorry, escorts shot the fk out of all enemies.  Hard to manage starting on the slop and having fight a headon at close range. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Apr 13, 2012, 11:55 pm Last edited Apr 13, 2012, 11:56 pm by Joel Autobaun

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 I played a second event on this map... The AI seems to have a hard time getting to me. I imagine this will improve over time as more and more events are played? S453522 ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Apr 13, 2012, 11:56 pm Last edited Apr 13, 2012, 11:59 pm by Groove Champion

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,492 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 Joel Autobaun said: lol I'm actually quite insulted.  I had 3 including a tank gun on the lorry(which is usually enough on it's own.).  Only lost the lorry, escorts shot the fk out of all enemies.  Hard to manage starting on the slop and having fight a headon at close range. Don't be, it involves an unusual setup and some sideways thinking. I actually discovered it on accident when I would have lost my lorry if not for it. You just haven't noticed/thought of it yet. ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped4,16,10 Posted Apr 14, 2012, 12:14 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Road To FL, or any place you get a convoy caught on a hill, you are in big trouble! The Chaos Canyon place is a warm welcome ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Apr 14, 2012, 2:50 am

Lord Foul .-^-HellRazors-^. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Rules Council Posts: 3,543 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 *sam* said: Yeah, I quite like the idea of having a map that forces people to defend their lorries rather than being able to escape them by running away. I always envisioned trade convoys as being slow moving things that had to be defended.. That's all well and good, but if you always envisioned this, why block the route between GW and Elms with an artificial restriction on large chassis? Those harder maps between GW and Elm are under utilized because of this restriction and if you want the player to defend their lorries, those harder maps will make this happen. Sure the profits are better selling to Elms, but the risk would be much higher trying to get lorries through those maps. Bast's new map is more in line with the "Broken Trail" maps between GW/Elms as the terrain he used fits them perfectly. While this new map will get used more, it seems out of place where it is now located. In my opinion, the artificial restriction hurts the player experience and forces the player to go around, use smaller chassis or avoid the area completely. Add to this that it's been said many times that Elms is under utilized, so if you want to breath new life into this area, remove the artificial restriction. It just might get new player and old interested in scouting, traveling etc.. in an area of the game that is used less than most. ......................... vet race1 deathrce1 wv zom circuit1 pvp1 northernsummer community circuit3 paintball55,206,126 Posted Apr 14, 2012, 6:37 am

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 I think it helps players understand the terrain they will face in the South. Also, it puts a bit of a kink in the profit margin of merchant-players who aren't skilled at fighting. ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Apr 14, 2012, 7:01 am

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