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Hero Points

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,684 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 Weekly auction might work...but let us know how many HPS we have, and only allow us to bid once on each item and assign how many points we can bid on an item...."man, do I bid all of my HPs on that CC, or do I see if I can steal it with 10?" ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 circuit1 Posted Jul 27, 2010, 11:23 am Last edited Jul 27, 2010, 11:23 am by Longo

Fealty Lost Slaughterhouse: Bloody Remains Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 1,261 Joined: Jan 6, 2009 ::..sigh..:: Individual "back room" page pops up when you have HPs in a town. The more kills/higher the individual bounty, the better the items. Because YOU are doing something to protect the town/factions, YOU are offered something exclusively, they don't just lay something rare out on the shelves and go "Gee, I hope a Hero comes along that might want this." You can allow the points to accumulate, so even folks who only score 1-2 maybe three bounty kills a scout (instead of like me, who gets 15-20 each time) can eventually kill off enough baddies to get that 'special' item. End of shop grinding. Beginning of reward for effort: huh, what a concept!! Now do it already I'm tired of posting on this subject when my fix is the BEST. Is it done yet? And save your 'imbalance' retorts to this excellent idea. Since nobody freaking PvPs anyways, and the bad guys keep getting nastier (I've actually lost a ganger or two recently, but, never a fight, as usual), it just don't freakin' matter. Lasers for everyone I say!! Game balance...pfffffffft. Is LIFE balanced? Is the WORLD balanced? (okay, maybe that last one since it keeps spinning in about the same place but even so our arrogance in moving great piles of dirt around and making focussed large heavy spots on a spinning baloon has got to be making some sort of difference in the geometry of the planet but I digress and for crying out loud are you still reading this? Do what I say already!) .02 sha, right. ......................... vet wv Posted Jul 27, 2010, 11:28 am Last edited Jul 27, 2010, 11:31 am by Damon_Angel

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Longo said: Weekly auction might work...but let us know how many HPS we have, and only allow us to bid once on each item and assign how many points we can bid on an item...."man, do I bid all of my HPs on that CC, or do I see if I can steal it with 10?" And if you loose, you loose your hps? still not hot with it ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Jul 27, 2010, 12:05 pm

*Grograt* Grograts Grunt Heads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,378 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 LOL @ DA chill out dude for Christs sake ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Jul 27, 2010, 12:54 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Quote: To restate my argument from before, the idea was that once you go above a certain number of HP's, you'll get a "Special Event", these could be declined to save HP's for even greater rewards. The Bold parts are the ones changed per mission, also, the Badlands/Shanty/Texan would be worth the most. The event text would be one of a few generic missions... Low HP Mission: "We would like to give you this 3.2lV8 to reward you for your effort, keep up the good work!" Mid HP Mission: "We have heard of the great work you've done for us, keeping the pirates at bay and the trade routes safe, we are willing to give you a 4x car cannon as a reward, if you are willing to help us escort this lorry from Gateway to Badlands, the cannons will be given to you upon arrival, you must use a minimum of 3 escort vehicles, exceeding 1000cr, will you accept this mission?" High HP Mission: "We appreciate all the help, and we would like to reward you, we were planning to give you a laser for all your work, but sadly, the transport was intercepted by the V8 Vikings, but we know their location, strike them towards Shanty and you are bound to find them, but be prepared, they are very tough bastards, Use a squad with a minimum of 2000cr, expect to face 1.3x the regular cr of a 900 fame gang, good luck!" Now, if there ever was a mission were there was a Firetruck/Heavy Laser or something like that at stake, it would be extremely hard, something along the lines of... Ultra High HP Mission: "We were attacked yesterday, one of our militia squads were completely destroyed by those that F****** Bantonville Militia gang, if you are a try ally of our town, help us completely DESTROY them, we know were they setup camp and we are forming a squad but we can only muster 6 combat cars and a Firetruck, and we require your assistance, if you are willing to help us, we will give you this Firetruck, provided it survives the battle, it is extremely valuable, but we value their heads more, it wont be easy, are you with us!?" Warning, (This mission is difficult, you will be aided by 6 militia combat vehicles, you have to bring a minimum of 6 vehicles of your own, and the squad CR must exceed 3000, you will be facing a squad 1.5x cr more than your own, do not attempt this if you don't think you can handle it, You have been warned!) That's what I suggested a while back  I made some modifications to that last one, since the firetruck is the reward, and its under militia control, it means you cant run away, to keep it alive, you'd have to battle the enemy head on, making it extremely difficult when the enemy force is 1.5x stronger than usual. ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit31,18,0 Posted Jul 27, 2010, 1:08 pm Last edited Jul 27, 2010, 1:10 pm by FireFly

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 I have a solution for all of you: Give up on hero points. ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Jul 27, 2010, 2:09 pm

Glurps Confrerie Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 107 Joined: May 16, 2010 In any case, i think that before giving potential too good rewards, you need to re-think how you gain HP. I just fear that a uber player with great cars coming to SS to stock HP and use them, this could be game-breaking. Somehow, i think great fame player should gain less HP than other, or a cap system. After all, people don't consider a legendary known gang, as Hero for receiving Bounty. It's rather "normal". Maybe not in the far south, but in SS it could be the case. What i really fear when i read some suggestions is that some players use that as a kind of game-breaking system or too-easy system to gain lot of good loot. ......................... vet wv Posted Jul 27, 2010, 2:17 pm

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 I'm always in favor of curbing the appearance of rare items! Glurps for president! ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Jul 27, 2010, 2:32 pm

Fealty Lost Slaughterhouse: Bloody Remains Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 1,261 Joined: Jan 6, 2009 << hangs plastic bag full of "Bulldoggie Leavings" over grog's bathroom door after feeding them brocolli and Beeferoni's all week long, then sets the trip wire>> ......................... vet wv Posted Jul 29, 2010, 12:42 am

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 *sam* said: What would be better then, Tink? Another suggestion I saw was that there's a fixed HP 'price' to buy each item, so you basically get your own personal HP shop. Problem here is how to stop too much proliferation of rares. Easy, set a limit on how many per week/month of each type. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Jul 29, 2010, 10:02 pm

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,502 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 JS said: *sam* said: What would be better then, Tink? Another suggestion I saw was that there's a fixed HP 'price' to buy each item, so you basically get your own personal HP shop. Problem here is how to stop too much proliferation of rares. Easy, set a limit on how many per week/month of each type. Or even year. Depending on how rare the items being offered are. ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped northernsummer4,17,9 Posted Jul 29, 2010, 10:49 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 *sam* said: I have actually dialled back on the amount of hardware produced in the NPC shops. They're mostly (not entirely) stocked by players selling stuff to them, now. Noticed and appreciated Sars and texan were rediculous, so was BL but it was spread out over more people. It's much better now. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,103,31 Posted Jul 29, 2010, 11:29 pm

iIIyB Icarus Himself Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: Feb 16, 2010 After 2 months of earning HP in badlands i have yet to see anything for my efforts more then whats already on market. the ONLY HP items I have seen are normal in shop anyway. I know it was tweaked, but is it right to not have ANYTHING to use ur HP for after hundreds of bounties earned? ......................... vet wv Posted Mar 11, 2012, 7:13 pm

*Tango* 2ManyRads CI Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,543 Joined: Mar 21, 2010 iIIyB said: After 2 months of earning HP in badlands i have yet to see anything for my efforts more then whats already on market. the ONLY HP items I have seen are normal in shop anyway. I know it was tweaked, but is it right to not have ANYTHING to use ur HP for after hundreds of bounties earned? I've given up on them months ago.  Either spawn rate is so rare you never get anything or someone is gaming the system and keeping the shops empty. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp5 pvp4 combat1 pvp3 zom community Posted Mar 11, 2012, 7:52 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 With less of a player base than even when Sam dialed it back, it seems right to me. THere is usually 3-4 buzzers getting sold on market at any one time - to any player 3-4 years old here that is rediculous. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,103,31 Posted Mar 11, 2012, 8:01 pm

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 I'd much rather see alternatives to the reputation boost you can earn. Places like Gateway or Badland already yield enough rare items from scouting. ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Mar 12, 2012, 12:11 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,517 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 depending on my game play (what targets and towns I chose), I get very little useful HPs for town shops,... bribing a faction before going places ain't a bad thing though. Im still working at trying to keep a high bounty while bribing officials at the same time, but the deeper I go in this regard the more I see use in HPs to manipulate fame and rep. More options could be good. At the moment, any dislike to DRM you get hit pretty hard on the track (car damage, aggressive AI etc) which is cool, I really like it, but theres the situation of new players and getting around that bad rep period, or even any gang that wants to play against the DRM, suffers greatly on the track. Could have per event bribes for HPs, allow the DRM to overlook you for the event if you have bad rep. Of course there could be the chance the bribe fails, and now they are really onto you. "What do you mean my motor was eaten by snakes?" ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,2 Posted Mar 12, 2012, 2:47 am

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Other systems (pen and paper) have used "Hero Points" or similarly named "currency" rewards for things other than what they are used for here. Personally i would rather see each character earn these Hero Points and not the gang as a whole. These points could be put to better use by acting as event modifiers, spent on the fly by the cahraters who have them. Such as if your long time bounty hunting guru happens to get a bad roll and that shot that penetrates his/her armor results in death. A hero point could be spent by that character to reduce that to, say, some critical injury that requires a long hospital stay. Or if incapacitated, spent the point to stay active untill he collapses staggering into town (instead of having to abandon him in the wastes as rat food). Then due to this Heroic (superhuman) exertion he is penalized with a longer recovery time or loses health or some other long term side effect. Of course the earning of these Hero points (or Prestige if you prefer) would probably need to be reworked to be a little harder to get, maybe. Im sure there would be some exploitable downside. The old uses would also still be available in this manner but the character or charcters with these Hero/Prestige/Influence points would need to be in town to use them in that town, or in the event to influence the DRM... Just a thought. Take it with the grain of salt knowlage that i want to see much much more Pedestrian involvement and oportunities. So this suggestion is biased in that manner. More MMORPG elemnts... added to the tactical we now have... equals more fun IMO... ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Mar 12, 2012, 5:25 am Last edited Mar 12, 2012, 5:27 am by StCrispin

JuaN VaLDeZ Frontline Assembly Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 512 Joined: Mar 27, 2010 This may be a little off topic... In DW Stats, what does hero score mean? ------------------------------------------------------------ Now on to topic... Presumably a more seasoned gang would have a higher total hero score then a fresh player. A veteran Player getting his gang wiped out would drop alot on hero score for the whole gang and thus allow them more common hero point items, ones which they would be in more need of at that time, or perhaps hero score would not instantly drop but instead, slowly decay to the new value. Maybe this could lean towards determining what items are available. ......................... vet wv zom deathrceL1 Posted Mar 12, 2012, 6:09 pm Last edited Mar 12, 2012, 6:13 pm by JuaN VaLDeZ

Alec Burke Overlanders Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 480 Joined: Sep 5, 2010 JuaN VaLDeZ said: This may be a little off topic... In DW Stats, what does hero score mean? It's just Leadership + Courage. Quick way to see who is in contention to be overall gang leader, but perhaps not the best title for the stat. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp2 Posted Mar 12, 2012, 6:40 pm

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