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97% damage chassis

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Just to clarify, is there any permadamage if my chassis is at 97% damage? ......................... vet wv zom Posted Dec 9, 2009, 1:39 pm

Dryfus The Freebooters Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 159 Joined: Oct 3, 2008 if it says nonrepairable yes(might say unfixable for get which now) ......................... vet wv Posted Dec 9, 2009, 1:40 pm

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 It's still repairable, but I'm curious whether it's taken up the "first repair" opportunity or not, as I've never damaged this chassis before. ......................... vet wv zom Posted Dec 9, 2009, 1:41 pm Last edited Dec 9, 2009, 1:42 pm by Karz Master

Dryfus The Freebooters Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 159 Joined: Oct 3, 2008 ahh, then I'm not sure ......................... vet wv Posted Dec 9, 2009, 1:42 pm

Marrkos 88 MPH Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,711 Joined: Mar 28, 2006 If you bought the chassis from the NPC shop then there is no 'free first'. The 'free first' is in place so that when you blast a car to scrap in an event you can repair it back to 100%. If you bought the vehicle new from the shop, then it should have no permanent damage on it, and it should repair to 100%. Permanent Damage ......................... vet wv community Posted Dec 9, 2009, 3:58 pm

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Thanks Marrk. I remember Sam saying something like if equipment falls below 97%, thats when the first permadamage occurs - but I can't remember for certain whether there's permadamage if it's exactly at 97%. I also don't recall if my Apache was store-bought or not -edit- Never mind I just read the wiki. So, if my item does not fall below 95%, it does not get permadamage? What if it's at 95%? ......................... vet wv zom Posted Dec 9, 2009, 4:11 pm Last edited Dec 9, 2009, 4:13 pm by Karz Master

Marrkos 88 MPH Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,711 Joined: Mar 28, 2006 Karz Master said: So, if my item does not fall below 95%, it does not get permadamage? That's my understanding.  This 'new' way of determining perma-damage actually slows down chassis degradation. Quote: What if it's at 95%? Dunno.  The edge conditions will be dicey, because what we see as '95%' probably isn't exactly 95%, but something between 94.500 and 95.499 (depending on how the system does its rounding for display).  So, sometimes 95% will result in perma-damage and sometimes it won't. ......................... vet wv community Posted Dec 9, 2009, 5:11 pm

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Cool thanks for clarifying Marrk. ......................... vet wv zom Posted Dec 9, 2009, 6:10 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 When your chassis receives its "free first repair" it actually still gets behind-the-scenes permadamage of 3%. So the next time it gets damaged - even if still 95%+, it won't be repairable above 97%. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Dec 9, 2009, 8:32 pm

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 I can check this "behind the scenes permadamage" by putting up my items on the market right? Also, my chassis should be safe from permadamage since it isn't damaged below 95% right? ......................... vet wv zom Posted Dec 9, 2009, 8:54 pm Last edited Dec 9, 2009, 8:54 pm by Karz Master

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Karz Master said: I can check this "behind the scenes permadamage" by putting up my items on the market right? Er.. ye. I should probably just make it always visible. Karz Master said: Also, my chassis should be safe from permadamage since it isn't damaged below 95% right? As long as it was never below 95%, yes. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Dec 9, 2009, 9:24 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 i may have missed a whole conversation... but why is there 'behind the scenes' permadamage rather than upfront honest perma damage? cue Marrkos to point me in the right direction ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 9, 2009, 10:22 pm

Marrkos 88 MPH Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,711 Joined: Mar 28, 2006 You didn't miss any conversation that I know of, although there could have been one in the areas I can't see. I think Sam's comment above is the sum of it. ......................... vet wv community Posted Dec 9, 2009, 10:29 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 but what IS behind the scenes permadamage... whats it for? ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 9, 2009, 10:30 pm

Iffler Ifflers Irritants Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 321 Joined: Jun 14, 2009 no idea ......................... vet wv pvp40,1,0 Posted Dec 9, 2009, 11:30 pm

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Now I'm confused too. ......................... vet wv zom Posted Dec 10, 2009, 12:46 am

*Wolfsbane* Arbiters Darkwind Guru Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,038 Joined: Oct 9, 2009 This may help (if links to forum posts work for you, they don't for me - third page of discussion forum anyway). ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 cont Posted Dec 10, 2009, 8:06 am

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 That discussion ended before the latest changes anyway, so it's not really helpful. ......................... vet wv zom Posted Dec 10, 2009, 8:50 am Last edited Dec 10, 2009, 8:50 am by Karz Master

*Wolfsbane* Arbiters Darkwind Guru Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,038 Joined: Oct 9, 2009 Sam announced the changes on the sixth page of that thread. If you only see the first page, then you have the same problem with forum links I do. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 cont Posted Dec 10, 2009, 8:53 am

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Oh I know about the changes then. It's just this that confuses me: http://www.darkwindwiki.com/doku.php?id=darkwind:updates:free_first_repair I still am not quite sure how this works. First free repair doesn't seem to be a first free negate permadamage repair as I'd initially thought; I don't understand the part about "if it is at 99% then you will repair it to 97%". Just way over my head. ......................... vet wv zom Posted Dec 10, 2009, 9:11 am Last edited Dec 10, 2009, 9:16 am by Karz Master

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