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Getting Better Recruits? , For Str, Dex & Spd

BigStick BOB-BagOfBones Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: Feb 16, 2008 Is the whole recruiting thing totally random? With regards to the 5 day free ganger? I know they lie ... which to me means it's random as crap I only go for Best Character now, but has anyone got any feedback for getting better Strength, Dex and Speed guys? Random questions: 1) Does recruiting from different towns make any difference? Ie. Better guys from south towns? 2) Does the type looked for, improve potential character traits? Ie. Seek a mech .. more likely better Dex? Seek a hand gunner .. get better Strength? 3) High Fame / Rep have any influence? Ie. Higher fame .. better stats? 4) Does time recruited have any influence? Ie. Better recruits from the pool after the Friday training roll? Crappier recruits mid week or just before training roll? ......................... vet wv zom Posted Dec 24, 2009, 9:32 am Last edited Dec 24, 2009, 12:33 pm by BigStick

*Marc5iver* 5ive Crew Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,355 Joined: Oct 10, 2008 The short answer to all of your questions, except for your first sentence, I believe is "No" In regards to question 3, with a higher fame there is less chance they will lie to you about their skills, but it is not a guarantee. If you are looking for a Gunner, they will probably have at least 20 Guns. I think the only guarantee with recruiting is that if you do not want a mutant, you will not get a mutant. Other than that, it is all a crapshoot. Supposedly if you wait 5 days for your free recruit, they will have a better chance of maxing out at a higher level than if you pay for recruits. I don’t think this is officially confirmed from Sam, just an observation from a number of players. ......................... vet wv gwextrav e2g marshal pvp4 pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 24, 2009, 10:20 am

ISHOULDCOCO COCO and the BURPERS Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Storytellers Posts: 1,440 Joined: Jul 5, 2007 AFAIK Sunday is best day to recruit ! All spare gangers are in town that day COCO ......................... vet wv Posted Dec 24, 2009, 10:49 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,782 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Marc5iver said: Supposedly if you wait 5 days for your free recruit, they will have a better chance of maxing out at a higher level than if you pay for recruits. I don’t think this is officially confirmed from Sam, just an observation from a number of players. Confirmed and true ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Dec 24, 2009, 10:55 am

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 *sam* said: Marc5iver said: Supposedly if you wait 5 days for your free recruit, they will have a better chance of maxing out at a higher level than if you pay for recruits. I don’t think this is officially confirmed from Sam, just an observation from a number of players. Confirmed and true Why is it like that? Why must I be punished for needing 2 or 3 gangers at once? ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit31,18,0 Posted Dec 24, 2009, 11:19 am

Nekojin Cats Laughing Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Contributors Posts: 1,039 Joined: Jan 19, 2008 FireFly said: Why must I be punished for needing 2 or 3 gangers at once? You're not being punished. There's just only so many superstars around at once. You're still getting that same chance at a superstar once a week, like everyone else. ......................... vet deathrceL1 wv cont Posted Dec 24, 2009, 11:30 am

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 Because good things come to those that wait, immediate gratification is the domain of the impatient person. ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Dec 24, 2009, 12:03 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,782 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 It's actually mostly to stop people from doing repeated hire-fire until they get a top character. You know the sort of people who somehow always seemed to "somehow" have D&D characters with a slew of stats at 16+? ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Dec 24, 2009, 12:18 pm

Fealty Lost Slaughterhouse: Bloody Remains Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 1,261 Joined: Jan 6, 2009 If you can afford to slap down $1000 a pop 'interviewing' over and over to look for a guy who might be marginally better than the last...you should be able to. Along those lines: why not allow $5000, $10000, even $50000 'interview' fees, with, of course, increasing THE CHANCE/occurence of garnering a 'better' ganger who might have, instead of the standard 20, 25? Or, a more 'experienced' ganger, whose other skills range between 10-20? ...with one standout skill, from 20-30? No big addition, and mostly longer-running gangs can afford to slap down that kind of money for disappointment...so the newbs can't take advantage of that, but veteran gangs can get gangers who will be able to contribute evenly with their other gangers quicker. I've had two 'free' gangers max at under 100. One at Driver [[ his '20' skill ]] at 84, and another with Gunner, at 75. So, haven't seen that 'extra' skill level thingie yet. But I trust ya Sam...if you say it's so...it must be so. Maybe if I kept my guys alive longer?  Hmmmmm..... ......................... vet wv Posted Dec 24, 2009, 1:03 pm

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 Damon_Angel said: . I've had two 'free' gangers max at under 100. But I trust ya Sam...if you say it's so...it must be so. Maybe if I kept my guys alive longer?  Hmmmmm..... Gangers maxing...it happens to all of us. and gung ho scouting creates a gung ho disposable heroes gang id say  ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Dec 24, 2009, 1:05 pm

Procyon Weak Head Normal Forms Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: May 30, 2009 Hire/Fire cycle is still too easy IMHO. $1000 a pop is just too cheap. I'd like to see the cost double every time, then trend back to zero in 5 days (take 1/5th off the cost each day maybe). I know I churn and burn gangers when recruiting... it's too easy to not do it. ......................... vet wv pvp3 Posted Dec 24, 2009, 5:53 pm

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,681 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 procyon112 said: Hire/Fire cycle is still too easy IMHO.  $1000 a pop is just too cheap.  I'd like to see the cost  double every time, then trend back to zero in 5 days (take 1/5th off the cost each day maybe).  I know I churn and burn gangers when recruiting... it's too easy to not do it. Churning and burning has its risks. Ive spend 40k before and the guy I ended up with maxed between 100-150.... I do not believe this is broken so there is no need for a fix. I recuit maybe once every 3 months... money is nothing to me. But for a new guy trying to hire a few gangers , it would surely hurt him. ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 circuit1 Posted Dec 24, 2009, 6:30 pm

4saken The 4saken Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,282 Joined: Jan 1, 2008 Damon_Angel said: If you can afford to slap down $1000 a pop 'interviewing' over and over to look for a guy who might be marginally better than the last...you should be able to. Along those lines: why not allow $5000, $10000, even $50000 'interview' fees, with, of course, increasing THE CHANCE/occurence of garnering a 'better' ganger who might have, instead of the standard 20, 25? Since this is a great opportunity for a money sink (and I know of at least two people who have admitted to going through 200+ new hires at a time looking for good stats even with the current system) I see nothing against letting people spend more for a chance for better characters. ......................... vet combatL1 wv1,0,0 Posted Dec 24, 2009, 6:45 pm

BigStick BOB-BagOfBones Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: Feb 16, 2008 *sam* said: It's actually mostly to stop people from doing repeated hire-fire until they get a top character. You know the sort of people who somehow always seemed to "somehow" have D&D characters with a slew of stats at 16+? Ok, I understand the reasoning behind this. To prevent getting a whole bunch of exceptionally good characters easily. Is there nothing to get better str, dex and speeders? I'm not fussed about the skill level (guns, driver, etc). Getting between 21-25 at the start doesn't mean that much, especially when you've been around a while. I'm guessing that this is what the Recruiter spec improves?? You can train these guys in a week or 3 anyhow. What about the other end of the timeframe? Should waiting longer improve the selection criteria? Taking the time to examine, test and weed out the chaff? Sort of like graduate recruitment in the major corporations? The base stats are more important to me than the skill stats. Maybe it's the engineer in me  At the beginning of my DW exploits, I was happy to get anyone. They didn't stay alive that long anyhow  . From a RP prespective, this makes sense too. New gang .. could be around 1 day or 3 years. Recruit is just happy to have a job (whether it's Super Recruit Ralph or just Krappy Karl). But now that I have been around a bit, I'm looking for quality gangers, to invest my hard earned game time. My gang has been around a bit now. Got myself a fleet of apaches, some cash, and some flasho weapons. Now some fresh meat quality graduate to man them... Do I want strength? Ok .. looking around Dex's there are 2 gangers: Ganger 1: built like a brick sh*thouse Ganger 2: looks like he flaps like a flag in a weak breeze .. Mr Burns style. Now say Ganger 2 got employed once by another gang, but got booted because he was crap. And he did 1 DR and improved his gunner skill to 21. 5 real time days laters (or many weeks later).... Obviously I recruit Ganger 2 because he's the Best Avail. NOOOOOOOOOOO!! But what happened to Ganger 1?!? He was the one I really wanted !!   ......................... vet wv zom Posted Dec 26, 2009, 5:07 am Last edited Dec 26, 2009, 7:25 am by BigStick

simonmaxhill Drive Backwards BFFs Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Storytellers Posts: 1,503 Joined: Mar 10, 2008 I know that sometimes you can recruit people with skills upwards of 50. Sometimes there's nicked characters there in the tavern! As for str/dex/spd... I don't know about that. ......................... vet wv Posted Dec 26, 2009, 6:21 am

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,681 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 4saken said: Damon_Angel said: If you can afford to slap down $1000 a pop 'interviewing' over and over to look for a guy who might be marginally better than the last...you should be able to. Along those lines: why not allow $5000, $10000, even $50000 'interview' fees, with, of course, increasing THE CHANCE/occurence of garnering a 'better' ganger who might have, instead of the standard 20, 25? Since this is a great opportunity for a money sink (and I know of at least two people who have admitted to going through 200+ new hires at a time looking for good stats even with the current system) I see nothing against letting people spend more for a chance for better characters. And so the rich just get stronger... ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 circuit1 Posted Dec 26, 2009, 8:07 am

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Longo said: And so the rich just get stronger... them Illegitimate Children !  ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 26, 2009, 2:40 pm Last edited Dec 26, 2009, 3:18 pm by *Grograt*

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