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Zoltan The Cosmic Kids Autodueller Merchants Faction Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: Dec 1, 2007 Ok how can we start one up. Ideas gents. I have lots of cash and prizes I'll sponsor it no problem there, but how do we make it work fairly. ......................... vet wv pvp4 Posted Jan 29, 2010, 7:28 pm

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,587 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 Look for "gentleman's duel club" - we had started something a long time ago that was 'sanctioned.' JL ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Jan 29, 2010, 7:32 pm

Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 Z -- the easiest way to start would be to create a bunch of TAC events. Create a TAC tournament with prizes, and people will enter, I am sure. After that, move on to a tournament using peoples real vehicles. And just keep pushing for real PvP as a long term goal! ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted Jan 29, 2010, 7:43 pm

*Urban Decay* Old School Perverts Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,023 Joined: Nov 8, 2007 Just setup event types. With a limitation of Various chassis and weapons allowed for each event level. These can either be CR locked, be specific to a set style of car, such as sedan or muscle. Have certain allowed chassis for each level so no one goes overboard and keep it a fairly level playing field. That way skill and strategy matter far more then who brought the biggest gun. Limit weapon level to match the general value of the chassis being used in each level of the league. If you really want to get serious on pure player skill level. Could even have a league with Identical chassis and weapon loadouts. Changing only the armor locations and which facing you prefer to have your weapons on. ......................... vet wv marshal raceL1 deathrceL10,4,0 Posted Jan 29, 2010, 7:56 pm

darthspanky McSPANKYS LOLLIPOP GANSTAS Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 4,008 Joined: Jul 29, 2007 could be based on the ladders we have now? go yearlong and based on points? anyone who signs up has better chance to get pvp in wild if both are in the pvp ladder leage? ......................... vet paintball wv1,0,1 Posted Jan 29, 2010, 7:58 pm Last edited Jan 29, 2010, 8:00 pm by darthspanky

Nekojin Cats Laughing Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Contributors Posts: 1,039 Joined: Jan 19, 2008 Zoltan said: but how do we make it work fairly.  Short answer: You can't. There will always be something "breaking" the system, especially behind-the-scenes collusion. Longer answer, ignoring things like collusion: 1.) Make specialized free-for-all Combat events. 2.) Make events be skill-capped by certain amounts (only capped for School-trainable Combat skills, that is). Some events are capped at 50, some at 100, some at 150, for example. Make sure that there's a mix of all cap levels for each week of the league, so that people can participate at a level that suits them. 3.) Either have peds disappear the turn after their car Resigns, or have SEVERE points penalties on deliberately firing on a Resigned car with occupants. ......................... vet deathrceL1 wv cont Posted Jan 29, 2010, 8:03 pm

*Urban Decay* Old School Perverts Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,023 Joined: Nov 8, 2007 Something like that, as long as you have some basis for the ruleset of the league, and then post who won lost, and put up the Event ID for confirmation. Could set it like the ladders too if you wanted. Start with a certain number of points. You get a bonus for victory, a loss for defeat. And would lose points off of your score for each car you lost as well. So that maximum points gained would be for a total victory with no cars lost to being demoed. If your score drops to zero, you are out for the remainder of that league level. Or, could simply just lose points for each demoed car until only 1 man is left standing with positive points. ......................... vet wv marshal raceL1 deathrceL10,4,0 Posted Jan 29, 2010, 8:04 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Sam should create a PvP league - basically like the SS combat league, NO NPCS and make it playable only a few times a week like the ped combat leagues. Like 2 times during the week and 2 times on weekend maybe...just have to catch one of the events in the week. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Jan 30, 2010, 2:27 am

*Urban Decay* Old School Perverts Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,023 Joined: Nov 8, 2007 Think it would be better as wilderness events though. Direct squad challenges. Maybe even as 2 on 2 or 3 on 3 teams from time to time with a few cars each. That would make it really interesting. Though direct combat events would be FAR easier to organize. ......................... vet wv marshal raceL1 deathrceL10,4,0 Posted Jan 30, 2010, 3:00 am

Zoltan The Cosmic Kids Autodueller Merchants Faction Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: Dec 1, 2007 Ok well hopefully Sam will see this I'm shooting him a PM to check the thread and get his input. Looks like we have enough interest to have a go anyways. Thx Guys ......................... vet wv pvp4 Posted Jan 30, 2010, 5:35 am

4saken The 4saken Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,282 Joined: Jan 1, 2008 I don't see as why we need any special code for this. Essentially it's just a squad challenge, right? The only exception is that we have no way to do a free-for-all (i.e. more than 2 sides). Also IMO people should be able to bring some variety of vehicles (limited by CR and maybe some other limits) to keep it interesting and for a good fight each side should have at least two vehicles (or at least one side should have two). If you have one car vs one car there's not much you can do tactically other than drive at each other, although this should make the fight take much less time. I had an idea for this once before and I ended up settling on 350 CR per side, which would allow for a buzzer, and apache with escort, 3 muscles, etc. This allows for alot of variety. There could of course be other classes. And yes, limiting crew CRs is a must. In an actual fight it is self-limiting due to risk, but in a fight where no one is likely to get hurt there's no reason not to bring your best crew and of course crew are not factored in to CR. ......................... vet combatL1 wv1,0,0 Posted Jan 30, 2010, 5:52 pm

Zoltan The Cosmic Kids Autodueller Merchants Faction Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: Dec 1, 2007 Currently squad challenges do not benefit from the pvp bonuses to camps or individual training I don't believe, anyone the two i have been in never did. But the other ideas definitley are right on with what I was thinking. ......................... vet wv pvp4 Posted Jan 30, 2010, 6:51 pm

4saken The 4saken Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,282 Joined: Jan 1, 2008 Well if this a casual league I don't see why they would offer any of that, actually. ......................... vet combatL1 wv1,0,0 Posted Jan 30, 2010, 7:19 pm

*Urban Decay* Old School Perverts Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,023 Joined: Nov 8, 2007 Yeah the general point of the league is just to have fun shooting each other, and see who comes out on top. If you wanted to PvP for camp fame the system in place to do so, and if you want to get your gangers up, keep em in real events as usual. You don't have to gain anything to have a good time, just have to enjoy what your doing. ......................... vet wv marshal raceL1 deathrceL10,4,0 Posted Jan 30, 2010, 7:23 pm

Zoltan The Cosmic Kids Autodueller Merchants Faction Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: Dec 1, 2007 I agree. forgot my other objections. What about a pro combat scenario but on wilderness maps. so we could utilize terrain for defense. We could have unlimited with huge prizes and Cr bracketed events with more moderate prizes, or we could run it like other Leagues and have different events weekly points cumulate event to event. ......................... vet wv pvp4 Posted Jan 31, 2010, 5:58 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 How about making it structured quite closely to football leagues in the real world: PvP leagues that run as CR-capped squad challenge events. Hardware + training prizes. Number of demo'd enemy vehicles is like "goals scored", number demo'd on your own side is like "goals conceded". Important only for tie-break situations. Combats are 1-v-1 and are done in a round-robin fashion i.e. you have to fight each other guy in the league once, at a time that you agree. Some rule would need to be made for situations where you can't find a mutual time.. the server would have to pick a time. 'Divisions' with promotion and relegation each season. Skill-caps defined per-division. There could also be a 'cup' format competition too where each round is a knockout rather than a league match. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jan 31, 2010, 6:09 pm

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 I think "CR demoralised" would be a better way to measure score, otherwise a player bring a fleet of Sonics to fight a Buzzer would be at a disadvantage. ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Jan 31, 2010, 6:31 pm

Zoltan The Cosmic Kids Autodueller Merchants Faction Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: Dec 1, 2007 I like it, we could certainly start it up and fine tune it as we go along. PVP will live yet! ......................... vet wv pvp4 Posted Feb 1, 2010, 6:16 pm

Nekojin Cats Laughing Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Contributors Posts: 1,039 Joined: Jan 19, 2008 *Groove Champion* said: I think "CR demoralised" would be a better way to measure score, otherwise a player bring a fleet of Sonics to fight a Buzzer would be at a disadvantage. Agreed to this. And while we're at it, can we get CR to include ganger skill, too? Please?  ......................... vet deathrceL1 wv cont Posted Feb 1, 2010, 7:52 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Nekojin said: *Groove Champion* said: I think "CR demoralised" would be a better way to measure score, otherwise a player bring a fleet of Sonics to fight a Buzzer would be at a disadvantage. Agreed to this. Yep Nekojin said: And while we're at it, can we get CR to include ganger skill, too? Please?  Do you mean generally, or just for these special leagues? For the leagues, the idea was to have a skill-cap defined for each division. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Feb 1, 2010, 8:01 pm

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