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4saken The 4saken Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,282 Joined: Jan 1, 2008 What if in PvP you could still gain skill points when you are capped? I think this would be a strong incentive. You can only get so far beating up the AI. However the way a "balanced" fight is computed might need to be changed. (I suggested simply having a wider CR gap and letting people more or less decide on their own.) Also the skill gain in a squad challenge should be much less. In fact it really shouldn't be any (or should be limited to a certain number of points per week to prevent abuse) but currently it's so difficult to do PvP otherwise. Sure, lots of people would be using uber-characters in an attempt to raise them, but in general they wont want to risk them in common cars, so they will also have rare kit, which, of course, can be dream-loot for most people. ......................... vet combatL1 wv1,0,0 Posted May 5, 2010, 11:32 pm Last edited May 5, 2010, 11:33 pm by 4saken

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,377 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 4saken said: What if in PvP you could still gain skill points when you are capped? Very much like this. ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted May 5, 2010, 11:37 pm

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 Definitely something for the RC to consider... Strong incentive indeed! ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted May 6, 2010, 12:06 am

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 No. Abusable. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted May 6, 2010, 12:22 am

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,659 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 Joel Autobaun said: No. Abusable. Agreed. ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted May 6, 2010, 1:59 am Last edited May 6, 2010, 1:59 am by Longo

4saken The 4saken Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,282 Joined: Jan 1, 2008 In what way? If the CR balancing works as it does now it would make for unbalanced games. Other than that how do you mean? ......................... vet combatL1 wv1,0,0 Posted May 6, 2010, 7:01 am

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Because with ease, you can just setup fake matches, for training. ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted May 6, 2010, 7:18 am

Flaming savage Mirrored Pain Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,788 Joined: Jan 21, 2007 What if it was only useable in Shantyville? ......................... vet wv raceL1 pvp2 combatL1 Posted May 6, 2010, 8:08 am

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 I like this idea. ......................... vet wv zom Posted May 6, 2010, 8:33 am

Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 Just have it so that if a character is killed, the characters on the opposite side gain 1/100th of his skills. Good luck to people trying to exploit THAT. ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted May 6, 2010, 9:29 am

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 FireFly said: Because with ease, you can just setup fake matches, for training. How is this different from regular PvP?  Do you not get skills for regular PvP? ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted May 6, 2010, 9:29 am

Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 JS said: FireFly said: Because with ease, you can just setup fake matches, for training. How is this different from regular PvP?  Do you not get skills for regular PvP? Not beyond skill cap, no. ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted May 6, 2010, 9:30 am

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 PVP whats that ? ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted May 6, 2010, 9:43 am

Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 Something fun and intense, that doesn't require massive amounts of time by the programmer to present a challenge to the player. ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted May 6, 2010, 10:09 am

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 This ? ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted May 6, 2010, 11:07 am

Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 Exactly. ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted May 6, 2010, 11:08 am

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 yes... thats it! latte was playing Xs and Ser was on Os but i think this is an excellent idea IF there was some safeguard in place.... how about this one for thoughts.... you only get potential above cap skill gains for gunnery skills... and then only for shots that breach the enemy or cause blue text. bit harder to stage a PVP match (but still not impossible). ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted May 6, 2010, 2:59 pm Last edited May 6, 2010, 3:02 pm by goat starer

*Grograt* Grograts Gonads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,377 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 The enemy should be of a certain calibre to deter set up exploits, i know not how this could be ascertained though. ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted May 6, 2010, 3:27 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 the thing i really like about this one is that itr would encourage people to use characters who were at least pretty good in PVP events. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted May 6, 2010, 4:41 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 I already noticed some squad challenges with Paint rifles that were obviously exploiting the PvP training bonus..in this case hand guns. I didn't care because frankly it's still a time investment. Skill caps though that's a whole 'nother can of worms. i've got a lot of low cappers that need killin, I find another vet that's got the same and we convert these pleebs to ELITE SKILLZZZ YO! I would honestly do that, and double up with a camp war so I can get some camp fame kicked in with it. It's a rich get richer scheme if there ever was one, I know that's not what 4saken intended but that's the use. If it was a serious PvP I probably would be just as reluctant to put my seriously high cappers in PvP. Frankly if the majority wants this - I'm COMPLETELY for it. I already use my (100-150)capped characters for PvP. I will heartily benefit from this. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted May 6, 2010, 7:20 pm Last edited May 6, 2010, 7:22 pm by Joel Autobaun

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