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*Ninesticks* The Wombles Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 3,371 Joined: Apr 11, 2008 I would suggest that this is actually has a chance of being inaccurate. How much by should vary according to the scout roll. So in an ambush situation the number/type of vehicles should be quite a bit out. Also opens up the possibility of a new scout spec that would help with the accuracy of the report. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp4 community pvp20,1,0 Posted Jun 6, 2010, 5:43 pm

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,615 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 Second FWIW - I was in the group scout when Nine suggested this and there was overall agreement. ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Jun 6, 2010, 5:52 pm

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,378 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 Oh yah, I was there, I agrees ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted Jun 6, 2010, 5:55 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Instead, maybe just make it scout based... a 100+ or so scout in a musclecar would get the info we have now... A 20 would get "5x light (Muscle/Sedan), 4x, medium (Apache, Landrunner, 1x Heavy (Lorry/Trashtruck) ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit31,18,0 Posted Jun 6, 2010, 6:04 pm

*Grograt* Grograts Grunt Heads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,378 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 Makes sense Nine i think a roll should be required with any skill of scout as well, even the best of us get things wrong. Mantis 000195 ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Jun 6, 2010, 6:05 pm Last edited Jun 6, 2010, 6:08 pm by *Grograt*

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 nice idea, i can just hear the scout saying 2 Fire trucks 10 apaches! in SS, and everyone's like what ever! ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Jun 6, 2010, 6:26 pm

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 I can see it saying 2 Firetrucks and 10 Apaches appearing instead. ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Jun 6, 2010, 6:41 pm

Lord Foul .-^-HellRazors-^. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Rules Council Posts: 3,543 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 Before this gets added, the "who is scouting for the squad" should be added, just like the mech is currently setup. (Gro, is this one buried in the 100's upon 100's of mantis jobs in the que?) Even better, just remove what is shown to be spawning so the player does not know if there are good chassis spawning before accepting a truce or not. If the player can't "see" what is spawning before him on the map, he should not magically know what is there behind every rock, hill or building, makes no sense. ......................... vet race1 deathrce1 wv zom circuit1 pvp1 northernsummer community circuit3 paintball55,201,123 Posted Jun 7, 2010, 5:40 am

SZDaddio Womens Auxiliary Balloon Corps Sunday Driver Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 38 Joined: Feb 23, 2010 I was in the scout where this was brought up as well. I do agree. I also agree with Foul....should say "x (number) vehicles are approaching, driving away, ambushing" If we can't get an actual "fog of war" (which would be more realistic and scary) then not knowing till they showed would be cool. ......................... vet wv Posted Jun 8, 2010, 1:59 am

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 what about there appears to be : a moderately high amount a very high amount! a extremely high amount!! a ludicrously high amount!!! ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Jun 8, 2010, 8:54 am

*Grograt* Grograts Grunt Heads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,378 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 Lord Foul said: Before this gets added, the "who is scouting for the squad" should be added, just like the mech is currently setup. (Gro, is this one buried in the 100's upon 100's of mantis jobs in the que?) . Not too my knowledge Foul, maybe you should re suggest then can be added if liked ( which it no doubt will ) by members !! ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Jun 8, 2010, 12:20 pm

ISHOULDCOCO COCO and the BURPERS Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Storytellers Posts: 1,440 Joined: Jul 5, 2007 Anything that brings us closer to FoW is a positive step COCO ......................... vet wv Posted Jun 8, 2010, 1:24 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 no fog of war ever please .... this game is an analogue of a tabletop game NOT a clone of command and conquer. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jun 8, 2010, 1:45 pm

*Dark Tempest* The Black Legion Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,049 Joined: Jan 27, 2010 Agree with Goat. Keep us true to our roots. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 Posted Jun 8, 2010, 1:48 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 i disagree with goat! ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Jun 8, 2010, 3:29 pm

*Grograt* Grograts Grunt Heads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,378 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 It depends on what level FOW is implemented ( if at all ) ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Jun 8, 2010, 3:47 pm Last edited Jun 8, 2010, 3:48 pm by *Grograt*

Lord Foul .-^-HellRazors-^. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Rules Council Posts: 3,543 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 How about simply redoing the whole thing and not purposely make it un-realistic to handicap ourselves against the NPC to give them a few extra turns. The game has matured enough that this is no longer really needed. 1- When you spawn you see what you are facing. 2- The amount of space in the circle you have for placement is based on a scout roll. Bad scout roll, minimal space to setup as you were caught by surprise. Good scout roll, you saw it coming and have extra space to plan your attack/defense/escape. Your scout skill would add (x) bonus to the roll based on current level of skill. Simple as that, none of this I can't see anyone foolishness. We all know the circle is used for tactical purposes to better prepare ourselves for the combat even when we are "blind" to the NPCs location. Why continue with this "Blindness" code when all it does is give the AI a few extra turns to come at you if you don't place properly. ......................... vet race1 deathrce1 wv zom circuit1 pvp1 northernsummer community circuit3 paintball55,201,123 Posted Jun 9, 2010, 7:52 am Last edited Jun 9, 2010, 7:56 am by Lord Foul

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