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Camp War Testing

*Dark Tempest* The Black Legion Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,049 Joined: Jan 27, 2010 I want to do some testing of the camp PvP system, and am looking for someone who has some cheap cars in SS they don't mind using in some friendly camp PvP. The plan is to fly our camps flags and have squad challenges in SS to see if fighting PvP combats actually is good for a camps fame, or if losing and winning balance each other so much as to make it pointless. If winning is significantly better for camp fame, MR, and the production boosts than losing is, then being somewhat involved in camp PvP would be positive for all players involved in it. If the rewards for winning are not large enough to justify the risk of losing, then the system needs fixing. Hoping for a fellow camp owner who doesn't mind if we trade wins and loses back and forth to test the system. PM me if your interested. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 Posted Jul 6, 2010, 8:07 am

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,502 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 I've got no firsthand knowledge of this, but if it is significantly higher fame increase to win, as compared to fame loss to lose... It's extremely exploitable. All someone has to do is PVP and surrender without a shot fired, wash rinse, repeat. I imagine if that's all the case and folks start arranging it like that, it will get changed. ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped northernsummer4,17,9 Posted Jul 6, 2010, 3:30 pm

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 *Dark Tempest* said: I want to do some testing of the camp PvP system, and am looking for someone who has some cheap cars in SS they don't mind using in some friendly camp PvP. The plan is to fly our camps flags and have squad challenges in SS to see if fighting PvP combats actually is good for a camps fame, or if losing and winning balance each other so much as to make it pointless. If winning is significantly better for camp fame, MR, and the production boosts than losing is, then being somewhat involved in camp PvP would be positive for all players involved in it. If the rewards for winning are not large enough to justify the risk of losing, then the system needs fixing. Hoping for a fellow camp owner who doesn't mind if we trade wins and loses back and forth to test the system. PM me if your interested. I did this with Jeelz, it does not seem to do anything.  Or if it does the gain is fractional so it was nto noted.  I looked on the activities section of the camp and there was nothing regarding fame increase.  And no fame was added to my current total, or my max.  Granted it is a sample of 1, and there were only two SUVs involved.  I am guessing that squad challenges don't count as that could be easily exploited through collusion.  I'd guess it's the intercepts by watchig the gates that count.  Anyone have any more info on this? ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Jul 6, 2010, 5:23 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Basically... to get a gain... I think you need injuries Specifically... injuries in skilled characters... ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit31,18,0 Posted Jul 6, 2010, 5:25 pm

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,684 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 And both camps need to be at war with one and other. ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 circuit1 Posted Jul 6, 2010, 5:28 pm

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 There ya go. Interesting on the injuries part. I guess anything is exploitable, seems if two camp owners got some garbage sedans and new hires they could kille each other off in squad challenges while at "war" and get the gains. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Jul 6, 2010, 5:50 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Take extra note on the "Specifically, Injuries in skilled characthers" So yes, its exploitable, if you use skilled characters... Same thing with the town attacks, but that was way back ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit31,18,0 Posted Jul 6, 2010, 6:37 pm

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,502 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 I do know that in the PVP squad league I got real good camp fame for the match where Procyon got out of his cars and made us shoot his multi-spec'd peds, some of them to death. But, I've got none in most or all of my other matches. ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped northernsummer4,17,9 Posted Jul 6, 2010, 7:11 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 dark.. declare war on the vault... we are VERY friendly! honest! Nine!!... Nine!!... get the Tank Guns RGMs and Mortars!!! ITS PARTY TIME!!! ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jul 6, 2010, 8:13 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 FireFly said: Take extra note on the "Specifically, Injuries in skilled characthers" So yes, its exploitable, if you use skilled characters... Same thing with the town attacks, but that was way back FF is correct here...it's not "worth it" unless you want to put some milage on some capped chars. It's worth it for hate though. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,103,31 Posted Jul 6, 2010, 9:33 pm Last edited Jul 6, 2010, 9:36 pm by Joel Autobaun

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 Joel Autobaun said: FireFly said: Take extra note on the "Specifically, Injuries in skilled characthers" So yes, its exploitable, if you use skilled characters... Same thing with the town attacks, but that was way back FF is correct here...it's not "worth it" unless you want to put some milage on some capped chars. It's worth it for hate though. Good points on the "Skilled" characters, good use for those sub 100 cappers though..  Plus its just good fun at that point. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Jul 6, 2010, 11:09 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Hehe, the monthly rookie Killfest? I'd sign up ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit31,18,0 Posted Jul 6, 2010, 11:19 pm

*Dark Tempest* The Black Legion Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,049 Joined: Jan 27, 2010 I say we try it. A bunch of us declare war on each other and do a bunch of squad challenges in SS. I'd be willing to set it up if some people are interested. Rookie/ fresh hire kill fest. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 Posted Jul 7, 2010, 2:28 am

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 You guys may have something there, "Camp Wars" night, or day, or whatever. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Jul 7, 2010, 12:03 pm

Zoltan The Cosmic Kids Autodueller Merchants Faction Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: Dec 1, 2007 Dark I'll do it with you in SS. I will be on around 23:30 server time tonight.. my camp is the cosmic playground in BL. ......................... vet wv pvp4 Posted Jul 9, 2010, 4:24 pm Last edited Jul 9, 2010, 4:24 pm by Zoltan

*Burden* The Speedrunners Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,013 Joined: Oct 4, 2009 I'll join in this stuff too. ......................... wv vet zom marshal pvp2 paintladder Posted Jul 9, 2010, 10:03 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Oh... I dont have and killable crew in SS... ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit31,18,0 Posted Jul 10, 2010, 1:32 am

*Dark Tempest* The Black Legion Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,049 Joined: Jan 27, 2010 Sorry Zolt, missed you. Lets aim for 23:00-4:00 tomorrow, everyone who wants in challenge someone else in this thread. I'll take Zolt since he started. We can post replays and results in here, and if enough people are interested I may try and turn this into a bigger deal, something like what Goat does with Faster Pussycat. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 Posted Jul 10, 2010, 9:35 am

Zoltan The Cosmic Kids Autodueller Merchants Faction Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: Dec 1, 2007 ok sounds good ......................... vet wv pvp4 Posted Jul 10, 2010, 6:26 pm

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