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Scouting in Elms

GrayRoad Hellz Accountantz Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: Jan 5, 2011 I've got a couple of SUVs and crews I am considering moving to Elms, but I've heard some comments about the risk/reward trade off not being worth it there as compared to SS. What exactly does that mean? My scout that I would bring is in the mid sixties and my gunners are in the high 40s low 50s. Thanks. ......................... vet wv Posted Feb 22, 2011, 1:21 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 The opposition is much tougher in El, expect some serious challenges with your crew. That said the retail value of loot is higher, and so are your repairs ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Feb 22, 2011, 2:11 pm

iceman Sock Monkey Killaz Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 924 Joined: May 13, 2009 Group scouts in elms are also rare Having said that, if you see me in the lobby, I can often take you out with my 138 scout there ......................... vet wv Posted Feb 22, 2011, 2:32 pm

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 grayroad said: I've got a couple of SUVs and crews I am considering moving to Elms, but I've heard some comments about the risk/reward trade off not being worth it there as compared to SS. What exactly does that mean? Just don't scout Elms-Gateway, and make sure scouting distance is set to 25 or higher, and you should be fine. I scout in Elms these days, and am going to continue to do so until the roads are safer and I can return to SS. Look me up if you want an Elms group scout. ......................... vet wv zom Posted Feb 22, 2011, 3:17 pm

GrayRoad Hellz Accountantz Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: Jan 5, 2011 Thanks for the feedback. Would it be better to bring a couple of muscles at first and scout with them to keep the CR down, rather than bringing more heavily armed landies or apaches? ......................... vet wv Posted Feb 22, 2011, 3:42 pm

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 The Elms-SS maps are the same if you scout SS-Elms, so it depends on your preferences. Go with muscles or sedans if you want to get comfortable first. Me, I think my last scout with muscle cars was about a year ago . Loot-wise, there's the occasional Pulverizer and Mutant car. ......................... vet wv zom Posted Feb 22, 2011, 3:53 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Just don't loot anything with less than 50-60% engine. You will get returns, otherwise similar to SS. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Feb 22, 2011, 4:24 pm

GrayRoad Hellz Accountantz Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: Jan 5, 2011 Joel Autobaun said: Just don't loot anything with less than 50-60% engine.  You will get returns, otherwise similar to SS. Good tip. I'm even seeing more of those in SS, my best scout has one leg now as a result. It has been slow for me to learn this, but grabbing every car in the loot window is sometimes pennywise and pound foolish. ......................... vet wv Posted Feb 22, 2011, 4:40 pm

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 What I do on a return is to quickly get the guys in the loot cars to book it and hightail for their respective cars. You place the loot cars beside your own cars (not too close or your peds run the risk of being hit), and then set speed to 0 with handbrake. Let cars slow down on Turn 1, then eject the peds on Turn 2, and they'll be safe by Turn 3, that is if you don't get them to board the wrong car. I only ever had one mis-calculated situation, where I placed the wrong car beside the loot car, so my ped had to run further than usual to get to his car. The good thing about Elms returns is that they're very predictable. I don't think there are returns where the enemy spawns behind you, and the only time I ever got a return where the enemy didn't spawn in front was an ambush. ......................... vet wv zom Posted Feb 22, 2011, 5:01 pm

Cadimus Ordo Nox Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 174 Joined: Jan 14, 2011 Karz Master said: What I do on a return is to quickly get the guys in the loot cars to book it and hightail for their respective cars. You place the loot cars beside your own cars (not too close or your peds run the risk of being hit), and then set speed to 0 with handbrake. Let cars slow down on Turn 1, then eject the peds on Turn 2, and they'll be safe by Turn 3, that is if you don't get them to board the wrong car. I only ever had one mis-calculated situation, where I placed the wrong car beside the loot car, so my ped had to run further than usual to get to his car. You're assuming that some people don't cram loot into every available space and don't eave room for your returning gunners.  ...I 'may' have done that a time or two.  ......................... vet wv Posted Feb 22, 2011, 5:28 pm

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Yea I always leave enough space in the backseat for my gunners. Now and then I will mis-calculate, but these rarely coincide with returns I think there was only once that I can remember from recent events where I was in an "oh knrl" moment because I had ejected my ped, and realized the car was full. All ended well though, thankfully. ......................... vet wv zom Posted Feb 22, 2011, 6:07 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 or put expendable people in 5% engine cars. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Feb 22, 2011, 6:26 pm

Kornkob The Dude Urban Achievers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 1,022 Joined: Jan 10, 2010 Joel Autobaun said: or put expendable people in 5% engine cars. Which is what I do.  I've 'pushed' home a few wrecks in the past and try to keep a few rounds of FOJ left over for the run home.  ......................... vet wv Posted Feb 22, 2011, 6:36 pm

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