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The Immortal Mister Kinlaw and the Dirty Liars Club, Too long to enjoy, I think
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The only effect I have ever seen from recruit and being a gang with high fame is...you get a guy with 25 starting skill(and no liars - it's not a BFD actually).

I honestly think there is more downsides to high fame than upsides after the Rep/fame overhaul.

I don't even truce anymore. Fame is worse than useless, you want to avoid getting it. Now NPCs are ganging up on me in the arena. So now I don't scout and I guess I have to avoid doing arena combats. I can only deathrace, race and do dangerous travels and try to PvP.

Good story BTW.
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Posted Feb 27, 2010, 6:26 pm Last edited Feb 27, 2010, 6:29 pm by Joel Autobaun
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Joel,

The effect you see from having a high fame seems realistic. If you really were the toughest gang around in a post-apocalyptic world, everyone else would be out to get you.

An intimidate option could be useful however. Rather than trucing, when you meet gangs you have beat up on in the past, you can attempt to threaten them into leaving you alone.

(There's even a suggestion for intimidator to be a spec in the appropriate thread.)
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Posted Feb 27, 2010, 6:33 pm
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darktempest666 said:
Joel,

The effect you see from having a high fame seems realistic. If you really were the toughest gang around in a post-apocalyptic world, everyone else would be out to get you.

An intimidate option could be useful however. Rather than trucing, when you meet gangs you have beat up on in the past, you can attempt to threaten them into leaving you alone.

(There's even a suggestion for intimidator to be a spec in the appropriate thread.)


While I agree it's really realistic, it's very demoralizing to the "player" when he gets gang rapes in arena combats. 

Very true - I could threaten a player and get him back in a million ways...an NPC... I just have to suck it.  Because if I try to get them back they will (all) just get worse on me.

I like your threaten suggestion.

My point is high fame should be a good thing.  right now I think the minuses outweigh the penalties.
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Posted Feb 27, 2010, 8:01 pm
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The humor and quality of this post was ZERO surprise to me as I thoroughly enjoy all of MMBs posts. You are missing out if you dismiss them as too long a read at first sight. Might I suggest:

James "Unbreakable" Kinlaw?
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Posted Feb 27, 2010, 10:15 pm
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Joel Autobaun said:

While I agree it's really realistic, it's very demoralizing to the "player" when he gets gang rapes in arena combats. 

Very true - I could threaten a player and get him back in a million ways...an NPC... I just have to suck it.  Because if I try to get them back they will (all) just get worse on me.

I like your threaten suggestion.


So you think that the threaten option would fix the problem or you still think that NPC's present a problem?

The solution i thought of for the arena problem is slightly more complicated. Inside of the faction window there could be a dialogue box that shows how member gangs of the faction treat you in town events. By paying them off/being nicer to them/completing missions for them, they will treat you better.
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Posted Feb 27, 2010, 11:33 pm
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I just recruited a certain "James Kinlaw"...
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Posted Mar 17, 2010, 7:40 pm
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Update on Jame Kinlaw, now James "The Outlaw" Kinlaw.

When I recruited him he was a n00b, now he's one of my better courier scouts.
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Posted Apr 23, 2010, 5:25 am
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TOO FUNNY

thanx Rev... for pointing this out
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Posted Jan 9, 2013, 9:58 pm Last edited Jan 9, 2013, 10:03 pm by Necrotech
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holy crap i damn near pissed myself. well done.
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Posted Jan 11, 2013, 4:41 am
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That was probably the funniest thing I've ever read here, thanks for refreshing it to the top of the list.

Wonder what ever happened to him?
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Posted Jan 11, 2013, 9:07 am Last edited Jan 11, 2013, 10:21 am by Splash
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HAHA! ;)
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Posted Jan 11, 2013, 10:07 am
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LOL - not one for reading at work ;)

Very good, and I'm also wondering what happened to him
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Posted Jan 11, 2013, 5:07 pm
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bump

Laughed out loud - made my wife read it - she knows little of DW - but got it
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Posted Aug 28, 2013, 2:41 am Last edited Sep 8, 2014, 9:02 pm by Daveyh
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yeah a career update on the indefatigable mr kinlaw would be amusing...
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Posted Aug 28, 2013, 4:09 pm
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Can't speak to the original Mr. Kinlaw, but his higher capping evil twin has been every bit as hard to kill...

Not sure how to paste a link to the character sheet, but ID# 411560 is James Kinlaw of The Black Legion.
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Posted Aug 29, 2013, 9:52 pm
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*Dark Tempest* said:
Not sure how to paste a link to the character sheet, but ID# 411560 is James Kinlaw of The Black Legion.


James Kinlaw
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