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POLL - PvP Regional in DW?
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Joel Autobaun said:


From now on, because this topic has me absolutely IRATE.  I will be griefing the sh|#@$ out of the next uninformed bitching post about PvP on this board.  I'm that sick of it.


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Shut up or I'll bash ya!


Yeah, down with anyone who has an opinion that doesn't support your preferred play type. Lets threaten to grief people based on what they say.

Griefing is, by definition, against the T&C's - so I guess for you to carry through with this threat would be to remove yourself from the game, Joel. Have at it.
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Posted Aug 22, 2011, 3:49 am Last edited Aug 22, 2011, 4:00 am by Jeelz
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*Sam* said:
You are absolutely within your rights to do whatever you wish with your cars and weapons - even if the other players don't like it. But being unnecesarily verbally rude and offensive isn't allowed.


Be quiet Jeelz. You don't have to like what Joel is doing, but you aren't in your right to tell him he is violating the rules or the spirit of the game.
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Posted Aug 22, 2011, 4:20 am
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?!?

You are against people being able to speak their mind as well, Groove? I don't like bully behaviour, and would even go so far as to say it should be discouraged (radical, huh?).

Someone wants to use the forum to have a say - I think that is what it is here for. We don't need to agree with him but to tell him to shut up is to indicate a highly inflated sense of our own importance. Set up your own forum where you can sit around and talk about how right you are if you want, exclude any dissenting voices. You really can.

I like to hear other people's opinions - it is how we learn and grow as people, rather than holding on to the belief that we are the keepers of The Truth And All That Is Right And Holy.

And let me get this straight, GC. How would you describe what Joel has suggested he will do? He describes it as griefing. Is griefing not a violation of the rules and spirit of the game?
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Posted Aug 22, 2011, 4:55 am
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How he chooses his PvP targets is up to him, whether you agree with his methods or not. It is not a form of griefing. You should be thankful he puts out a warning: that's more than can be said for the TRUE griefers.

Don't twist my words, Jeelz: I never said anything about not wanting to hear out the opinions of others. I spoke out against your "lawyer rule" attitude. It is despicable.
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Posted Aug 22, 2011, 5:10 am Last edited Aug 22, 2011, 5:11 am by Groove Champion
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Kick me out I don't give a #### anymore.
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Posted Aug 22, 2011, 5:12 am
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Jeelz said:
?!?

You are against people being able to speak their mind as well, Groove? I don't like bully behaviour, and would even go so far as to say it should be discouraged (radical, huh?).

Someone wants to use the forum to have a say - I think that is what it is here for. We don't need to agree with him but to tell him to shut up is to indicate a highly inflated sense of our own importance. Set up your own forum where you can sit around and talk about how right you are if you want, exclude any dissenting voices. You really can.

I like to hear other people's opinions - it is how we learn and grow as people, rather than holding on to the belief that we are the keepers of The Truth And All That Is Right And Holy.

And let me get this straight, GC. How would you describe what Joel has suggested he will do? He describes it as griefing. Is griefing not a violation of the rules and spirit of the game?


Yup and now i';m gonna get you whenever I can too.
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Posted Aug 22, 2011, 5:13 am
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Groove Champion said:
How he chooses his PvP targets is up to him, whether you agree with his methods or not. It is not a form of griefing. You should be thankful he puts out a warning: that's more than can be said for the TRUE griefers.

Don't twist my words, Jeelz: I never said anything about not wanting to hear out the opinions of others. I spoke out against your "lawyer rule" attitude. It is despicable.


I said nothing of his methods - you seem to miss HE used the term grief.
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Posted Aug 22, 2011, 5:35 am
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Jeelz said:
Groove Champion said:
How he chooses his PvP targets is up to him, whether you agree with his methods or not. It is not a form of griefing. You should be thankful he puts out a warning: that's more than can be said for the TRUE griefers.

Don't twist my words, Jeelz: I never said anything about not wanting to hear out the opinions of others. I spoke out against your "lawyer rule" attitude. It is despicable.


I said nothing of his methods - you seem to miss HE used the term grief.

Grief the posts you dumb dizzy dyslexic ####.
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Posted Aug 22, 2011, 5:37 am
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Jeelz said:
I said nothing of his methods - you seem to miss HE used the term grief.


The way I see it -and of course you're free to disagree- is that he can call it griefing all he likes, but unless he's hounding a player in events and/or PMing him in abusive ways and/or spreading malicious lies about him, he isn't actually griefing.

Let me give you an example. If I catch one of your gangers on foot in the wild and shoot him in the face, that's all I'm really doing: shooting your ganger in the face in the wild. I might think I got out of my car afterwards and piledrived the body before farting in the bullet hole, but that's not what actually happened.

EDIT: VERY tongue-in-cheek... please don't take this badly.
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Posted Aug 22, 2011, 5:51 am Last edited Aug 22, 2011, 6:12 am by Groove Champion
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If I was going to question anything Joel has done I'd start with that horrific Avatar of his.
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Posted Aug 22, 2011, 9:29 am
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Christ ...flame an old thread why not

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