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Chassis Acceleration Comparison, Another (nearly) scientific study

The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 Hello again, everyone. It's your old pal PT here, back with another comparison of component abilities. This time we are testing the relative acceleration of various vehicles with identical engines, weight, tires, driver, and track. The idea of this is to see if any chassis have a better acceleration characteristic than others, and to see if any have a stronger low gear, high gear, etc. So here it goes: For this test, each vehicle was given a 3.2L engine at 100%, standard tires, and was outfitted however necessary to weigh exactly 3823 uhh...units. How I came to that number is really anyone's guess, but with it I was able to make a Flash and Apache weigh the same amount (lightly A-armored Apache and fully loaded C-armored Flash with a Reinforced Ram and Flechette Gun in the trunk). Before rambling on, I'll just give the results. From this we can see that most of these vehicles have the same characteristics throughout the test, and all of them hit 100 mph at right around the 20 second mark. There are a couple of unique cases, though. The Hotrod, probably as no surprise to anyone, came in at the top of the pack for acceleration. The Sunrise had slightly better numbers than the field, and the Buccaneer did significantly better. I certainly can't tell the reasons for this, but it is something to keep in mind when you're building your next racer. Another very interesting point comes at the very beginning of the test. The Chomper and Apache both accelerated from 0 to 21 mph in just one second, nearly doubling the ability of the rest of the chassis. Apparently, this is the "low gear" that some of the pickup-style chassis get to give them better offroad ability. The Pickup shows a similar characteristic, matching the Apache almost exactly through the graph, but hits only 18 mph through the first turn, rather than 21. While hard to see in the above graph, this zoomed-in view should make it a bit clearer. This "low gear" puts the Chomper and Apache ahead of the crowd for much of the test. The Chomper begins to fall back to meet the crowd after about 15 turns, though, while the Apache stays about a turn ahead throughout the test because of its head start. This means that if an Apache and a Phoenix of equal weight have a drag race from a dead start, the Apache will win within the timeframe of this test. However, if the two started the race rolling, the Phoenix would likely win, though not by much. Okay, now to the muscle cars. This test was done in exactly the same fashion as the above test. Nearly all of the muscle cars have been run, now. The McFly and Buccaneer currently lead the pack in acceleration, but none of the cars shows a tremendous advantage over the others. The biggest surprise in this test to me was how slow the Osprey was compared to the rest. I suppose this is something that the Osprey haters will use as evidence and the Osprey lovers will find as a tradeoff. Well, another addition. Since there was talk of different armors producing different aerodynamics, etc, I tested them. Each of these was a Phoenix with a 4L engine and standard tires that weighed 3020. The only difference was in the armor. According to this there is no major difference between armor grades, at least not on this chassis or at these speeds. The B armor took a slight advantage in the trial, but the difference was well within any margin of error that is likely in this style of testing. Incidentally, I had to run some of these trials twice, because I managed to injure my ganger during one of them. (Don't ask) The good news is that I found there is also no measurable difference in the ability of a driver at 100% and one at 80% when it comes to acceleration. I had always assumed that, now there is some proof. As always, I hope you find this interesting and helpful, and let me know if you want anything specific tested. I'll see what I can do. Credits: Thanks to Marrkos for the loan of the Roadrunner for the test. Thanks to Rev. V for the use of the Moray. Thanks to Sagal for loaning me his McFly for a day. ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted Apr 12, 2011, 4:17 pm Last edited Apr 16, 2011, 3:00 am by The Paranoid Tourist

johnny go rancid Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 1,438 Joined: Mar 24, 2010 Nice! Uncal buck for the win! ......................... vet wv Posted Apr 12, 2011, 4:29 pm

Juris Hessians Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: Sep 16, 2010 The Paranoid Tourist said: As always, I hope you find this interesting and helpful, and let me know if you want anything specific tested. I'll see what I can do. PT, you are a post-apoc Consumer Reports How about testing the larger vehicles - buzzer, fire engine, etc? A 'best muscle' test would also be cool - with a 4L or 3.2 v-8. ......................... vet wv pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 race1 zom pvp2 deathrce1 pvp3 combat1 Posted Apr 12, 2011, 5:01 pm

The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 The best muscle test I can do, as I own most of them, though I'll probably just use 3.2L engines in those, as well, because I own a cache of them and won't have to re-test those that I've done for this test. I don't have a Buzzer in SS, nor any place, really, where there would be a track suitable to testing these. I no longer own a fire engine, either. Maybe someday I'll get my hands on some of those and be able to give them their due. The other problem that sticks out in my mind with those, though, is the sheer size discrepancy. Would I put a 4L engine in each of them, including the Fire Engine and Trash Truck? ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted Apr 12, 2011, 5:05 pm

Karz Master Alpha Junkers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Storytellers + IP Posts: 2,375 Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Cool graph. Now get to work on a regression system for us analytical geeks ......................... vet wv zom Posted Apr 12, 2011, 5:46 pm Last edited Apr 12, 2011, 5:46 pm by Karz Master

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 I hope you have a stormer ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Apr 12, 2011, 5:49 pm

The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 Karz Master said: Cool graph. Now get to work on a regression system for us analytical geeks Argh. I really don't want to do that. hehehe ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted Apr 12, 2011, 6:03 pm

The Underking Project Cerberus Sunday Driver Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 77 Joined: Dec 19, 2008 If not I'd be happy to donate one ......................... vet wv Posted Apr 12, 2011, 6:07 pm

The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 I filled in the gaps on the first test and added a preliminary study of the muscle cars. ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted Apr 12, 2011, 8:20 pm

*Rev. V* Cestus Dei Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 3,208 Joined: Aug 4, 2010 I'll loan you a Moray if you'd like... ......................... vet wv zom marshal paintladder cont Posted Apr 12, 2011, 8:30 pm

Marrkos 88 MPH Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,711 Joined: Mar 28, 2006 I'll loan you a Roadrunner. ......................... vet wv community Posted Apr 12, 2011, 8:33 pm

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,659 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 Anything else you need to test look in my garage you can borrow if needed. ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Apr 12, 2011, 8:37 pm

johnny go rancid Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 1,438 Joined: Mar 24, 2010 *puts on fake mustache* what a kind offer, can i borrow your mcfly? ......................... vet wv Posted Apr 12, 2011, 8:51 pm

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,492 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 Interesting to see the Osprey results... though 8 mph difference after 20 rounds of straight on acceleration doesn't amount to much of a difference. ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped4,16,10 Posted Apr 12, 2011, 9:17 pm

Zephyr River City Gamblers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 551 Joined: Dec 12, 2009 Awesome work, Tourist! This is the kind of thing I've been wanting to do for a while now but haven't had time. Excellent procedure there. Would be interesting to see if the other racing chassis (mackenzie, turin, etc) have that super accel like the hotrod; I would expect they would have an even steeper curve. Re: aerodynamics. Sam has said that aerodynamics of the chassis types plays a part, but this graph seems to indicate that that is not the case. It is interesting to see that the Corghette and the Apache's acceleration curves are, largely, identical. I wonder if the A-armor on the apache made a difference? Sam has said in the past that a-armor also gives a vehicle a boost to its aerodynamics. ......................... vet wv Posted Apr 12, 2011, 9:48 pm

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,492 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 Zephyr said: Awesome work, Tourist!  This is the kind of thing I've been wanting to do for a while now but haven't had time.  Excellent procedure there.  Would be interesting to see if the other racing chassis (mackenzie, turin, etc) have that super accel like the hotrod; I would expect they would have an even steeper curve. Re: aerodynamics.  Sam has said that aerodynamics of the chassis types plays a part, but this graph seems to indicate that that is not the case.  It is interesting to see that the Corghette and the Apache's acceleration curves are, largely, identical.  I wonder if the A-armor on the apache made a difference?  Sam has said in the past that a-armor also gives a vehicle a boost to its aerodynamics.  Would probably be possible on an apache to test A,B,C armor all at the same total weight. ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped4,16,10 Posted Apr 12, 2011, 9:52 pm

The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 Zephyr said: Awesome work, Tourist!  This is the kind of thing I've been wanting to do for a while now but haven't had time.  Excellent procedure there.  Would be interesting to see if the other racing chassis (mackenzie, turin, etc) have that super accel like the hotrod; I would expect they would have an even steeper curve. Re: aerodynamics.  Sam has said that aerodynamics of the chassis types plays a part, but this graph seems to indicate that that is not the case.  It is interesting to see that the Corghette and the Apache's acceleration curves are, largely, identical.  I wonder if the A-armor on the apache made a difference?  Sam has said in the past that a-armor also gives a vehicle a boost to its aerodynamics.  Oh No! A variable I didn't lock down!!!  I had no idea there might be a difference. I guess that'll be another bank of tests. That said, all of the muscle cars accept for the Phoenix and Sunrise had A armor. Those two had B. To those willing to loan me a vehicle: I'm all for it and need each of those chassis in SS. I promise no damage but know that I may need to make some changes to it for it to make weight. I'll do my best to put them back as they were when I got them when I'm done. PM me if you want to put your car in the test. I'll give you credit. ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted Apr 12, 2011, 10:05 pm Last edited Apr 12, 2011, 10:06 pm by The Paranoid Tourist

Marrkos 88 MPH Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,711 Joined: Mar 28, 2006 Acceleration Talk Acceleration ......................... vet wv community Posted Apr 12, 2011, 11:07 pm

The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 OP edited with Roadrunner stats. Thanks, Marrkos. ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted Apr 13, 2011, 12:41 pm Last edited Apr 13, 2011, 2:25 pm by The Paranoid Tourist

The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 OP edited again. This time I've added the Moray thanks to Rev. V. Also, I've added information regarding the effect of armor type on a chassis, as well as the effect of ganger activity level. ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted Apr 13, 2011, 3:09 pm

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