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Slaver gangs, I'm not sure this works

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Simply put, slaver gangs in scavenger seem... almost a bit to tough, there is no way to outrun them in rentals, they spawn with almost twice your number of cars and their gangers shoot way better than you possibly could. I dont know, on one hand it's supposed to be hard on the other hand beating them in rentals is nigh impossible, and because of the lack of scouts you'll get them on pretty much every scout when you are in town, currently it's the eviscerators and they are the 3rd highest fame gang in the game right now. But the thing that's the biggest issue is that you get thrown in the gladiator arena, now normally you'd fight and get out of there, maybe get a ride home but it's impossible in scavenger as it stands. So, any ganger sent to the arena might as well be dead, I've got half my gang in there right now and I know some others, rokkitz for example, who have the same problem. So I dont really know what to think, but it's a bit of an issue. ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Sep 10, 2011, 9:26 pm

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 I don't think civs and merchants will be the strongest factions in Scavenger... I am certainly considering such things presently. ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Sep 10, 2011, 10:06 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 I don't mind a tough fight with slavers in SS, but it would be great if you didn't get send to the pit when loosing to them in SS. After all of my gang ended in FL, i thought a lot about this, and  perhaps a work around would be a rental version of a travel car available in all towns, which wouldn't take up your scout rental slot, would still be a pain in the arse to get all your guys back to a safe zone. ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Sep 10, 2011, 11:43 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Or really, just ditch the whole sending people to firelight for scavengers, that works to. The slaver fights are okay taken on their own, it's the fact that you cant surrender at all that breaks it a bit. ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Sep 11, 2011, 12:06 am

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 I thought this was hardcore mode... ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Sep 11, 2011, 12:24 am

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 FireFly said: Or really, just ditch the whole sending people to firelight for scavengers, that works to. The slaver fights are okay taken on their own, it's the fact that you cant surrender at all that breaks it a bit. Just give them a "free" ride home.  They're scavengers, surely they can hide on the underside of Metros bus and find their way home. In all seriousness, if they get captured, then live through the arena, it seems no big deal to let them get back for free.  Might give them a few days travel.  What is it 4 days or so to SS from FL?  Might also consider a red encounter on the way back.  How about this.  Takes a week for them to make their way back from FL to SS, they get a ped encounter (or two?  maybe too tough though).  And then they show up on your doorstep really pissed off and ready to get back at it.  That would allow "hardcore" flavor and a way to get them back as well. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Sep 11, 2011, 12:34 am Last edited Sep 11, 2011, 12:35 am by JS

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 That works to JS, although I think the ped encounters are to much given you dont have the handgun ammo for that in firelight, and being given free handguns would be strange. That would work to, survive the arena and a free ride back to SS, it's just the whole having 7/10 gangers stuck there is biting my nerves... I was not very lucky this weekend ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Sep 11, 2011, 12:39 am

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,492 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 hrm, so far we've beat them on every scout I've been on with them... even the returns. We just used tactics. ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped4,16,10 Posted Sep 11, 2011, 1:24 am Last edited Sep 11, 2011, 1:25 am by d0dger

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 You know what I said about luck? First one I saw you do against the eviscerators was a 4v5 and the enemy was "Ambushing" you, meaning their force was split up and 3/5 were stuck by the bridge for most of the battle... The strategy I saw employed was "Beat up the weaker ones first, including that bomber!" But I know you are a good player, what I'm saying here is that luck does play part, it's a bit different when it's a 3vs5 and they are not stuck somewhere. Speaking of luck... down to 1 ss guy now, man those scarabs are fast ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Sep 11, 2011, 1:54 am Last edited Sep 11, 2011, 1:55 am by FireFly

Juris Hessians Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: Sep 16, 2010 Just allow Scab peds to ride in non-Scab vehicles like Metro's bus. They couldn't pay of course, so call it hitchhiking ......................... vet wv pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 race1 zom pvp2 deathrce1 pvp3 combat1 Posted Sep 11, 2011, 2:49 am Last edited Sep 11, 2011, 2:49 am by Juris

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Juris said: Just allow Scab peds to ride in non-Scab vehicles like Metro's bus.  They couldn't pay of course, so call it hitchhiking Attach wagons to the back of their cars  ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Sep 11, 2011, 3:02 am

*Ninesticks* The Wombles Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 3,371 Joined: Apr 11, 2008 Based purely on my own experience I don't agree with the Slavers being too tough comment, have had 6 scouts against them so far all to the good, in fact the Desert Hyenas have been fielding better gear from what I have seen and heard. I would agree that the Gladiator thing is a bit of an issue, the free ride home if you escape seems like a reasonable option, or perhaps overall for the better would be an option to disown them so you can remove them from your roster (at the price of a morale hit). ......................... vet wv marshal pvp4 community pvp20,1,0 Posted Sep 11, 2011, 6:32 am Last edited Sep 11, 2011, 6:33 am by *Ninesticks*

Rokkitz Monarchs Autodueller Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 277 Joined: Nov 26, 2009 I just fired my gladiatiors.. My gang is now down to 4 of which 2 are travelling. I am a bit broken in this matter. I kinda like the slaver idea.. it is hardcore, dont lose to slavers! But I agree.. if gladiator = dead ganger there is not much point in having it since we wont play the pit events. I cannot even guess how we will make the transition to GW, and even less so for how a supply line to FL will be set up... ......................... vet wv Posted Sep 11, 2011, 11:16 am

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,587 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 I was looking in the forum for an answer to this question - do the ones in the glad arena take food and water? Or is it supplied? The Char page makes it look like I have to supply food & water, but my food and water is in SS. If they were raw, I'd just dump them, but one of the ones I have down there is a 38 mech (he was a 31 or 32 when I hired him), so I hate to lose him, even if it's 6 months or a year before I get him back where I can use him. But if he's "as good as dead" there AND it's costing me food & water... ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Sep 12, 2011, 3:28 pm

Rokkitz Monarchs Autodueller Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 277 Joined: Nov 26, 2009 This will call for another community effort. Rally all scavvies to build a travel route from FL! Well, lets start with 4sakens idea of getting water from Elms.. First things first and all that. Its weird, but I think that both PvP and cooperative playing will benefit from the hardcore mode. Liking it. ......................... vet wv Posted Sep 12, 2011, 3:33 pm

*SirLatte* Road Templars Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 509 Joined: Jun 22, 2010 Heres A thought...move the Gladiator location... Instead of going all the way to FL.. They go to a Glad Camp around each town...maybe have to walk home once freed ......................... marshal vet wv pvp1 zom paintladder paintball elmsautumn raceL1 ped2 circuit2 ped1 gwped Posted Sep 12, 2011, 4:44 pm

*Ninesticks* The Wombles Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 3,371 Joined: Apr 11, 2008 Or have them join the Slavers! <wipes away a nostalgic tear for all the wonderful turncoat hunts we used to have> ......................... vet wv marshal pvp4 community pvp20,1,0 Posted Sep 12, 2011, 8:39 pm

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,587 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 So what about the question I had... Is the SS food/water used for them? I'm going to be cutting it close anyway... ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Sep 12, 2011, 8:51 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 *jimmylogan* said: So what about the question I had... Is the SS food/water used for them? I'm going to be cutting it close anyway... In regular DW I'm pretty sure Sam said they don't cost salaries, and food and water. ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Sep 13, 2011, 12:39 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 *jimmylogan* said: So what about the question I had... Is the SS food/water used for them? I'm going to be cutting it close anyway... I should probably explain here: in fact, the town that your food and water is in is, currently, irrelevant when it comes to the weekly update. It takes your stuff from SS first, then Elms, GW, BL, TX, SF, Morgan, FL, and finally SV This isn't very realistic of course and could be changed later but it was a much simpler way to write the code. And maybe it gives Scavs a break from micromanaging so much..? ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Sep 13, 2011, 9:48 am

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