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Scavenger teams in SCL League?
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I admit I have not been following everything in the forums lately (stuck in the wastelands of Fallout: New Vegas AGAIN!) so I may have missed something, but are Scavenger gangs able to participate in the SCL league? I have a battle this week coming up against “The Hellrazors” with two gangs which are “-^-HellRazors-^-” and “HeckRazors”, both of which are teams of LordFoul.

I am not saying I am against it, as a Scavenger gangs members cannot be that high level yet, but I was under the impression that the two modes didn’t mix.

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Posted Sep 27, 2011, 4:39 pm
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Pretty sure Foul just did that to prove a point - there is no way a Scab gang is participating in the SCL I lol
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Posted Sep 27, 2011, 4:58 pm
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Juris said:
Pretty sure Foul just did that to prove a point - there is no way a Scab gang is participating in the SCL I lol


You’re psychic,

Character name: Juris (Psionics acquired this week) at skill 1

lol

Plus I want to see what Sam comes up with for a cash/prize conversion in Scav if he allows the interaction to continue. If it stays, expect to see a lot of scav gangs being added to SCL teams. At some point during the next 3 months Sam will have to do cash/prize coversions for Scav in all the leagues.


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Posted Sep 28, 2011, 2:55 am
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In terms of the actual combats, I think you'll find that the Scav gang cars won't spawn
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Posted Sep 28, 2011, 9:58 am
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*sam* said:
In terms of the actual combats, I think you'll find that the Scav gang cars won't spawn


If that's the case, shouldn't they not be allowed to join in the first place?
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Posted Sep 28, 2011, 1:23 pm
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I would call this an exploit, but none of the SCL rewards applies to scav gangs, they dont have money, cant get training and cant own or be memebers of camps. That being said there is NO reason to join with a scav gang, and Sam has no reason to implement any conversions. ;)
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Posted Sep 28, 2011, 5:25 pm
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But will the monetary rewards be converted for the Scav gangs much like the monetary rewards for races, deathraces, and combats are? If so, it is an exploit, as someone can have their Scav gang join an SCL team with their regular gang's SCL team to get goods for the Scav gang and likely not even care about the fact that the Scav gang never actually joins in any of the SCL fights.
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Posted Sep 28, 2011, 10:34 pm
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Celticfrost said:
I would call this an exploit, but none of the SCL rewards applies to scav gangs, they dont have money, cant get training and cant own or be memebers of camps. That being said there is NO reason to join with a scav gang, and Sam has no reason to implement any conversions.  ;)


First let me say that I agree , unfortunately Sam will have to implement conversions for Scavs as long as they are allowed to participate in all the leagues. He has done this for regular town events and will need to for everything else.

As for there being no reason for a Scav gang to join an SCL league, there actually is. Free prizes for doing nothing, which is no different than what has been occurring in the SCL league for nearly 2 years with regular DW gangs, which was discussed in another thread sometime in the past.

We’ll just have to wait and see how it turns out.  ;)
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Posted Sep 29, 2011, 1:55 am
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I stand by my statement, if Sam does nothing they will receive nothing, therefore, at this present time his best option would be to leave it as is since anything you could potentially receive right now would be of absolutely no use to your scav gang. I do not see any reason why Sam HAS to implement any changes other than to simply block them out for the sake of professionalism in his game as it is just funny to be able to add your scav gang and win useless prizes (assuming they even appear for the scav gang).
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Posted Sep 29, 2011, 7:14 am
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I have just updated it so that Scav gangs can't join squad combat leagues
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Posted Sep 29, 2011, 12:56 pm
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Celticfrost said:
I stand by my statement, if Sam does nothing they will receive nothing, therefore, at this present time his best option would be to leave it as is since anything you could potentially receive right now would be of absolutely no use to your scav gang. I do not see any reason why Sam HAS to implement any changes other than to simply block them out for the sake of professionalism in his game as it is just funny to be able to add your scav gang and win useless prizes (assuming they even appear for the scav gang).


Exactly this: now that scav is banned from SCL, this can be cited as a precedent to use as the basis of a campaign for the same treatment in any/every/all leagues.
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Posted Sep 29, 2011, 7:39 pm
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*sam* said:
I have just updated it so that Scav gangs can't join squad combat leagues


Cool, glad that is finally out of the way.  ;)


Celtic, Scav gangs are currently participating in many other leagues. Sam could do nothing as you say, but would you think it fair if a player only plays Scav, competes in the leagues and places to win cash/prizes that the player should get nothing while regular DW gangs get the goodies?

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Posted Sep 30, 2011, 2:28 am
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Lord Foul said:


Celtic, Scav gangs are currently participating in many other leagues. Sam could do nothing as you say, but would you think it fair if a player only plays Scav, competes in the leagues and places to win cash/prizes that the player should get nothing while regular DW gangs get the goodies?



No, it isnt fair, provided that the scav gang was able to actually participate in the scl league. As it is, Sam did the correct thing in removing it from scav all together.
I really think that scav should not be able to play in any leagues, since they would be competing against norm gangs and be at huge disadvantage.
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Posted Sep 30, 2011, 5:30 am
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I am not sure how these SCL thingies work, but as a scav only player if I can upset the well trained poshies, I think I would be entitled to a nice prize. However, in the next breath, I wanna stress that events in general are out of contextual flavor in my opinion. Sure, food and water are scarce, so ya need a race or two to stay alive... But if you want in on these SCLs, we ALL have a normal gang, leave it for the poshies...
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Posted Sep 30, 2011, 10:35 am
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Scav is like the "prequel" and the leagues first started as a way to kill people so there was enough food to go around...

As for SCL - Scav can go out and pick a fight nearly any time they want.
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