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Evan Reds and Me, A little Claret
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Howdy all,

It has come to my attention, a small misconception with my faction seems to be floating about. I would like to rectify that

Evan Reds:

A left-wing faction who believe that the New Order does not have to be capitalist and that equality is achievable.

As far as I read this, it is not indicating that Reds are communists or Nazis. Yes we do believe in and element of social justice as I believe most of us do in the Western world. Its what makes countries like Australia, The Greater Britain as a whole and the United States of America, great places to live, where we feed the poor and help the sick.

Freak Scene:

Long-haired 80s throwbacks with feedback-laden pop blaring out of their speakers as they chase you

Bohemian Like You:

A ragtag bunch of hippy traders from the North Badlands region, these guys drive surprisingly well despite the noxious clouds of intoxicants spilling out of their gunnery slits

Dune Peddlers:

An eclectic group of traders that cater to camps and the small villages that crop up near factories.

Northern Desert Co-Operative:

Transporting food produce at cost-price to the Truckstops, and sometimes hardware in the opposite direction.

The Scarlet Outriders:

A tough bunch of Evan Reds who bring the fight to the door of the Slaver Pit.

F-A-S (Free All Slavers):

A group from the Evan Reds faction, sworn to bring down the slavery operations in Firelight

Bastille and the Raging Scavengers:

A symbol of Hope, freedom and revolution.
Equality, Liberty and Justice for all


Red(Simply a colour)>Claret (Wine from France)>chateau le Bastille (Symbol for revolution)>The Reds Symbol (yes its a Red Star, thats about as close to the perceived misconceived definition as I get)

As for me, the person: My Dad was born in Czechoslovakia and suffered much as a child in Nazi Germany, and then the Red army in East Germany until he jumped the fence and managed to flee here to Australia. He has brought me up to believe in caring for those around me. I donate much of my time caring for disabled (my cousin is severely handicapped since 2 when he had a terrible accident. He is now 41 and we fear what we can do in the future to continue to support him. His sister and husband may well need to take care of him for the rest of his life) and less fortunate.

ok, and I don't like Telesalesman, who doesn't ;) I love comedian Bill Hicks, such a loss. And those willing to fight against social injustice. Thats social injustice, not 1938 National Socialism. MASSIVE DIFFERENCE!!

Thankyou for your time, I hope this clears things up for you on where I stand. I do not like being labeled a communist, as Im sure you can now understand reading this.

Bast
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*Posted Feb 2, 2012, 10:30 pm
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Thanks for the clarety.

GB
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Posted Feb 2, 2012, 10:41 pm
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You got associated with an unnamed self-proclaimed opinionated Marxist bastard and long standing member of the Evan Reds... ;)

Myself I keep RL politics out of DW, there's enough difference of opinion on how to change the Sniper spec... lol
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Posted Feb 2, 2012, 10:52 pm
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For my part, I don't believe I've ever called you or the Evan Reds Communist or Commies or the like, but I will take care to be sure I don't in the future.

We'll still call you a Socialist, and a Red, and mean in it in a derogatory way... Sorry Bast.

Socialism has its uses and place in civilized society, but when it's taken as the primary concern of a community it doesn't provide enough incentive to be productive to too large a portion of the population.
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Posted Feb 2, 2012, 10:58 pm Last edited Feb 2, 2012, 10:59 pm by d0dger
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http://www.whfr.org/system/images/programs/commiebastardspresents.gif
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Posted Feb 2, 2012, 11:06 pm
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:rolleyes:

Speak for yourself, Im a Hippy, well, half hippy. I don't bludge about, and am quite active helping the community, unlike my Byron Bay brothers up north.

Ironically, my Birthday is the 20th of April (Hitlers Birthday). Im half Austrian, half German, Hitler being a Jewish Austrian that ruled Germany. My Name is derived from a fallen Angel I see it my pace in the world to undo the Hypoctratic Injustice imposed by the bastard.

Juris said:
Myself I keep RL politics out of DW, there's enough difference of opinion on how to change the Sniper spec... lol


Same here matey, Its a lot of BS I rather avoid.

Like Dodgers ill informed comment above. (Just the Comment I find offensive)

Life is not black and white, I really expect you to be smarter than that. Capitalism has brought much to the western world, but as we see right now, exponential growth does not and cannot work in a finite world. So sayeth smart people. There are social elements throughout our culture, this does not mean one to be a communist or Socialist per say.
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Posted Feb 2, 2012, 11:09 pm Last edited Feb 2, 2012, 11:21 pm by *Bastille*
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Good on ya Bast. Taking it upon yourself to help others is noble and good.

Leveraging the power of government to force others to do it is not.
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Posted Feb 2, 2012, 11:20 pm
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Agreed

following greedy men blindly because it suits our own pocket is equally as stupid for the planet as a whole.
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Posted Feb 2, 2012, 11:24 pm
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*Bastille* said:
Juris said:
Myself I keep RL politics out of DW, there's enough difference of opinion on how to change the Sniper spec... lol


Same here matey, Its a lot of BS I rather avoid.

Like Dodgers ill informed comment above. (Just the Comment I find offensive)

Life is not black and white, I really expect you to be smarter than that. Capitalism has brought much to the western world, but as we see right now, exponential growth does not and cannot work in a finite world. So sayeth smart people. There are social elements throughout our culture, this does not mean one to be a communist or Socialist per say.


Take offense if you like when I say Socialism as the primary concern is a bad idea, but don't twist my words or call me ill informed. I never claimed Capitalism was perfect or that unsustainable infinite exponentional growth was what Society should strive for either. I actually said that Socialism has its place in polite society and you claim I'm talking black and white. To be our best, we need elements of both those isms, without taking things to far to either extreme, and probably some other stuff in the mix. Check out one simple example here: I is smart too

See you on the track, ya damn dirty Red.  ;)
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Posted Feb 2, 2012, 11:36 pm
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I just read mean and derogatory ;)

Ive gone from Larks Tongue (my Flamer Apache) to Cantankerous (One of Goats Apaches I believe) over night :cyclops: Soon Ill be screaming for Marxist Rule

I see the points in the link... thats kinda what Im saying. The Economy slumped In Hitlers Nazi Germany, where only a year before hand world leading economist heralded the idea of National Socialism as a breakthrough. Companies in France, Britain and the US still backed them financially well into the war. One may question why. Ulterior motives in my mind. Here in Australia, there has been socialist ideals to our Health care system, partnered with Private. (I think similar to GB, not sure on that). Everyone can get health care, but if you want choice and the best care, you go private. As more and more socialist structures are removed the level of care and standards have dropped dramatically as the bottom line becomes more important than the system. Crime has gone through the roof, and so has personal security. Many argue the structure of politics in the states right now, and when you see the outcomes, who gains, and the horrible atrocities imposed on great numbers of people, I can completely understand why.

A Ying and Yang in needed, a balance of these two ideals would be.. well.. Ideal. :D
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Posted Feb 3, 2012, 12:58 am Last edited Feb 3, 2012, 1:18 am by *Bastille*
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Now... back to shooting people.

Thanks all  B), for your time here today... I feel a bit of a goose. Sorry for chucking a dummy spit the last few days.

"Hey fella, you're a turkey, you know that"

How can I make that my signature  :rolleyes:
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Posted Feb 3, 2012, 3:16 am
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A little off topic perhaps, but a friend of mine posted this (elsewhere online) recently:

"Completely obvious but continually overlooked: Australia is a nation of different people on different paths with different priorities. That's beautiful. Some people love things that others loathe. Some people do things that others don't. That's life. To quote The Beatles and Fleetwood Mac out of context, although "I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together", "you can go your own way". Don't expect that everybody everywhere should follow. That would not be "normal". Horses for courses. Considering perspectives that aren't your own can be very challenging but highly elucidating and can lead to a greater understanding of this thing called "diversity" and what makes different humans tick to different rhythms."

Pretty hard to disagree with.

**Edit - I'd hope this applies to nearly all countries, not just this great wide land Bast and I are lucky enough to live in.
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Posted Feb 3, 2012, 4:15 am Last edited Feb 3, 2012, 4:45 am by Jeelz
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Slightly off-topic but I really must find this really cool "Mutant Che Guevara" Evan Reds poster that BW Gunner made (with me egging him on) last year
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Posted Feb 3, 2012, 10:26 am
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LOL! You must! We can get it printed up on T-Shirts and sell them to mutant hipsters!
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Posted Feb 3, 2012, 11:16 am
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Juris said:
You got associated with an unnamed self-proclaimed opinionated Marxist bastard and long standing member of the Evan Reds... ;)

Myself I keep RL politics out of DW, there's enough difference of opinion on how to change the Sniper spec... lol 


I resemble that remark!
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Posted Feb 3, 2012, 11:23 am
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Still alive goat? :stare:
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Posted Feb 3, 2012, 11:26 am
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He's alive and well, and masquerading as the front page model on Mixamo
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Posted Feb 3, 2012, 1:00 pm
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Pffffft, lol :cyclops:
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Posted Feb 3, 2012, 1:01 pm
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*sam* said:
He's alive and well, and masquerading as the front page model on Mixamo


Sam.. when your character models look half as good as me masquerading as that one you will have time to be posting in teh forums...

now get back to work bogwoppit!

(ps... unlike that model i have a penis.. FACT... and if anyone doubts it i will post pictures of it here which we would all regret!)  :cyclops:
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Posted Feb 3, 2012, 3:40 pm Last edited Feb 3, 2012, 3:43 pm by goat starer
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I dont know goat... That sounds like something I'd doubt... B)
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