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Pre-Skill your Gangers, Interesting Method

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 This is a suggestion for new players, as a method of getting a little bit of a skill "bump" for your fresh gangers. That is, as long as you DIDN'T follow the gang management guide and still have spare room for more people! Here is the method I am testing out: First you have to get a Gang Representative to Sarsfield. (Im currently offering a Taxi service for any new player who doesnt want to die trying to get there on their own. U can read about it in the thread in player-run-services) Once in SF, Hire a Gunner. Then Buy a car for him with a Rear Mounted HMG or MMG (for turbo boost). Make the fuel tank large enough to run the long SF to BL strip (it is safer than the shorter hops through TX and SV. Then just drive him from there to SS! and poof you gain between 8 to 15 points on both Driver and Scout, making them Just as good as if you had hired them for that specific skill in SS, but for BOTH skills! Plus using the gun for turbo by fireing at the chasing cars may give you between 3 and 8 gunner skill so he will be BETTER than hiring him in SS as gunner specific. Ive done this and ended up with Driver-28, Gunner-28, Scout-28 but the time they reach SS. So whas it COST? and what are the risks? well the ganger is either free, or costs no matter where you are. So you risk the cost of the ganger. But thats negligable even at $1000. Car Cost will be the largest cost. I havent tracked the "safe" cars but an A armor 3.2L Hearse with 50 unit tank, fuel and an HMG runs $17k. But here is what I HAVE tracked: ----Windy II, 3.2L engine, 40 Unit fuel tank, Offroad tires, MMG rear, fully armored {B} costs about $9000 ----Eaton, 2.5L engine, 30 Unit fuel tank, Offroad tires, No weapon, 16/16/16/16 armor and 5/5 top borrom {B} costs around $11,000 There tends to be a shortage of 3.2L engines in SF but a 2.5L works fine in a Hotrod or Eaton. Also as long as you travel on Sun/Mon/Tue/Wed you will avoid most of the front or ambush spawns for some reason. Probably because the BL gangs are a bit beat up by then. What you have to GAIN as a new player: (1) Experience. Both about traveling and about the maps. (2) Enhanced Gangers. Start with a basline cross trained ganger! 28/28/28 in D/G/S is a nice place to start when you put them in the SS training facility. 3 specs come your way fairly soon. Sooner then it would if you hired in SS. (3) Rare Cars (Maybe). Hotrods, Eatons, Corghettes spawn occasionally in SF. So do Hearses if you get enough experience to travel one well. (4) Cheaper Cars. Get home with a car that costs $35,000 in SS that you only Paid $9,000 for! You can even just sell them off and make a profit. (5) Haul home cheap weapons and fuel. I'll post examples of characters as I test more closely. Until now I havent paid close attention. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted May 21, 2012, 4:37 am Last edited May 23, 2012, 10:13 am by StCrispin

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Real examples. First 3 drivers actually tracked for gains: WALLY CLEAVER Recruited as: Gunner Skills at Recruitment Driver-4 Gunner-15 Scout-3 Car Driven: 3.2L Windy II, B armor 18 max.  MMG mount rear.  40 Unit fuel.  OR tires.  $8500 cost THEODORE CLEAVER Recruited as: Large Guns Skills at Recruitmant Driver-4 Gunner-0 Large Gun-20 Scout-3 Car Driven: 3.2L Windy II, B armor 18 max.  HMG mount rear.  30 unit fuel.  OR tires.  $8400 cost CYNTHIA JOHNSON Recruited as: Gunner Skills at Recruitmant Driver-3 Gunner-20 Scout-0 Car Driven (Pre-Leg TX to SF): 2.5L Hotrod, B armor 14 max.  MMG mount rear.  20 unit fuel.  OR tires.  Cost: forgot to look but under $10,000 Car Driven (Main Trip SF to SS): 2.5L Royal Eaton, B armor 18 max. MG mount rear.  35 unit fuel.  OR Tires.  Cost: Dont Know.  Didnt look when I built it. Results will be posted following ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted May 21, 2012, 7:52 am Last edited May 23, 2012, 12:02 pm by StCrispin

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 StCrispin said: Real examples. First 3 drivers actually tracked for gains: WALLY CLEAVER Recruited as: Gunner Skills at Recruitment Driver-4 Gunner-15 Scout-3 Car Driven: 3.2L Windy II, B armor 18 max.  MMG mount rear.  40 Unit fuel.  OR tires.  $8500 cost THEODORE CLEAVER Recruited as: Large Guns Skills at Recruitmant Driver-4 Gunner-0 Large Gun-20 Scout-3 Car Driven: 3.2L Windy II, B armor 18 max.  HMG mount rear.  30 unit fuel.  OR tires.  $8400 cost CYNTHIA JOHNSON Recruited as: Gunner Skills at Recruitmant Driver-3 Gunner-20 Scout-0 Car Driven (Pre-Leg TX to SF): 2.5L Hotrod, B armor 14 max.  MMG mount rear.  20 unit fuel.  OR tires.  Cost: forgot to look but under $10,000 Car Driven (Main Trip SF to SS): 2.5L Royal Eaton, B armor 18 max. MG mount rear.  35 unit fuel.  OR Tires.  Cost: Dont Know.  Didnt look when I built it. Results will be posted following RESULTS WALLY CLEAVER Recruited as: Gunner Skills at Completion Driver-10 (+6) Gunner-15 (no change) Scout-15 (+12) Number of Encounters: 9 Number Truced: 5 Town Entry Escapes: 2 Manual Escapes: 1 Auto Escapes or Enemy Fled: 2 Rounds of MMG fired: 15 ----- THEODORE CLEAVER Recruited as: Large Guns Skills at Completion Driver-6(+2) Gunner-0(No Gain) Large Guns-21 (+1) Scout-11(+8) Number of Encounters: 11 Number Truced: 6 Town Entry Escapes: 2 Manual Escapes: 1 Auto Escapes or Enemy Fled: 1 Rounds of HMG fired: 36 ----- CYNTHIA JOHNSON -Experiment Canceled Reason: Glitch. Specifics: Hit an invisible wall on one of the SF to BL maps.  Got shot up By NPCs.  Then, after getting loose from the wall and the NPCs, I hit the same invisible Wall again!  Then the NPCs wasted the Eaton and Cynthia ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted May 25, 2012, 7:25 am Last edited May 25, 2012, 8:50 am by StCrispin

JuaN VaLDeZ Frontline Assembly Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 512 Joined: Mar 27, 2010 If you buy a 2.5L hot rod, or a 4L phoenix, whatever, in sarsfield and drive it to elmsfield, you will get some really nice skill gains and you can scrap the car for almost twice what it cost to build in sars. take multiple courier missions from point to point, always get new missions in each town for best profits and rep rewards. ......................... vet wv zom deathrceL1 Posted Jun 5, 2012, 4:35 pm

JuaN VaLDeZ Frontline Assembly Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 512 Joined: Mar 27, 2010 Additional tip: How to go over hills and dunes at high speed without going airborne: when approaching the hill line up your car about 2 turns before you get to the peak of a hill by turning right or left, putting you parallel to the ridge 2 turns later then when your on the ridge turn down the other side, the npc will follow at full speed and do a endo, while you gain speed on the downhill slope without busting your car up ......................... vet wv zom deathrceL1 Posted Jun 5, 2012, 6:37 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 No The whole thing No Next people will be parking cars in hard to reach places to exploit the AI, EVERY SCOUT, SCOUT AFTER SCOUT. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jun 5, 2012, 10:42 pm Last edited Jun 5, 2012, 10:44 pm by *Bastille*

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 *YAWN* ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jun 6, 2012, 10:13 am

*DoubleTap* The Ghosts Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 895 Joined: Jul 13, 2007 exploit: to use selfishly for one's own ends ......................... vet marshal wv Posted Jun 6, 2012, 2:40 pm

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 *Bastille* said: No The whole thing No Next people will be parking cars in hard to reach places to exploit the AI, EVERY SCOUT, SCOUT AFTER SCOUT. Wha? ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Jun 6, 2012, 3:10 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 *Bastille* said: No The whole thing No Next people will be parking cars in hard to reach places to exploit the AI, EVERY SCOUT, SCOUT AFTER SCOUT. ha ha...  you mean like they do now?  Park on a cliff in Chaos Canyon and kill Arbelests with rifles to save car ammo?  They cant shoot you on the ridges or figure out how to get up there. Fun map though.  Nice to see a ridgeline race someday ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Jun 6, 2012, 10:36 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 That Pirate Canyon one is the same way. Also one of the ones near SS. Sitting where the NPC cant get you and killing them was one of the first things the Vets tried to teach me how to do when I joined. I cant get it right though. somehow I shoot the dirt and the NPC shoots my weak bottom armor. But If I had paid attention and let the vets teach me the trick I could solo scout and make $400,000 a night supposedly. But where is the fun in that? ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Jun 6, 2012, 10:40 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Besides, this isnt about how to exploit skill. it is to help NEW players do the following: 1) gain player experience 2) branch out to other locations (so im not alone in the south) 3) Help them get rare-er cars like Eatons and Corgys without paying out the nose for one in SS. (and undermine the vets who sell them in the process! hee hee! wait... I sell them! dang!) 4) Give them an alternative to the Gang Management suggestion everyone seem to like to hype (It gets you stuck in the SS rut). 5) reduce the "everyone scouts in SS only" Grind (Seems only scouts in anyplace other than SS and GW are solo. My FL/TX/SV/BL/SF guys are bored!) 6) remove the misconception that to operate in the south you need specced god gangers (wrong! you can operate literally on a skill of ZERO! as proven above) and in sure there are other items. Juan is trying to be useful... er... Helpful. If the drive like an idiot back and forth thing looks like a trick to you, ask him to erase the post or edit it out and Stop Mucking Up the thread with Squabbling and Arguement! Besides, 2 turns full left and 2 turns full right... Newbs: dont do that. you crash or lose speed and then the AI will kill you! Maybe if you have a skilled driver but who has those other than the Vets eh? I sure dont. Best driver: 62 Best Gunner: 64 Best Scout: 69 ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Jun 6, 2012, 10:49 pm Last edited Jun 7, 2012, 10:34 am by StCrispin

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 yeah, I must apologies. I glanced over this before I responded, I thought it was about something totally different. *This has been cut and moved by Me to the appropriate thread.* Following replies have been moved by me to Darkwind Discussions. Please go about your business ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jun 7, 2012, 1:45 am Last edited Jun 8, 2012, 3:58 am by *Bastille*

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