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Travel speeds

*JeeTeeOh* Loose Cannons Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,796 Joined: Oct 18, 2010 Vroomhoff said: Nice job, Sam! Thanks for listening to the community!! He doesn't listen to us... he just gets tired of hearing us suggest the same thing over and over so he throws us a bone now and then.  Thanks Sam! gnaw gnaw gnaw ......................... vet wv e2g marshal cont deathrceL1 sssc Posted Nov 8, 2012, 8:31 pm

DieselCougar Steel Panther Racer Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Rules Council Posts: 210 Joined: Jun 8, 2012 who wants to bet he was already working on this? ......................... vet wv ww Posted Nov 8, 2012, 8:37 pm

Manfred VonRichthofen Flying Froggies Sunday Driver Civs Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 97 Joined: Oct 13, 2012 Woaw you're faster than light ! Well done hehe Thanks ......................... vet wv race1 paintball deathrce1 Posted Nov 8, 2012, 9:02 pm

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 Interesting new options... Will certainly check them out! ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Nov 8, 2012, 11:00 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 sounds cool, and yeah would be icing on the cake to know how long travels take, maybe have it say "travel times range from X to X"? keep it in hours not time of arrival to save space? btw what happens if you got a lvl 4 PF and a lvl 8 NEG riding together, and decide to go slower or faster? gas milleage would be cool to throw in the mix, specially for the scavies ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Nov 8, 2012, 11:12 pm Last edited Nov 8, 2012, 11:19 pm by *Tinker*

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 I particularly like that the total travel time is updated immediately on the squad page when you modify the squad speed. Nice touch. One MAJOR point I wanted to bring up though... Since travelling at higher speed has a chance of damaging armor as you roll, then it goes without saying that lower travel speeds should build up armor as you go... Ok, I'm done  ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Nov 8, 2012, 11:53 pm

Juris Hessians Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: Sep 16, 2010 Can we pick up hitchhikers below 30? Good change, I like the travel time listed in advance. So Pathfinder has no effect at 30 right? Problem is if Pathfinder doesn't reduce your chance of an encounter at any speed it won't be as good as Negotiator, which doesn't reduce your chance of an encounter BUT it does let you force a truce. What I'm getting at... Pathfinder should be better at avoiding encounters while traveling than Negotiator, otherwise it will be an inferior spec. ......................... vet wv pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 race1 zom pvp2 deathrce1 pvp3 combat1 Posted Nov 9, 2012, 12:02 am Last edited Nov 9, 2012, 12:04 am by Juris

Groove Champion The Groove Champions Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 4,813 Joined: Sep 16, 2008 Chances of trucing with negociator are fairly poor at low spec levels, and are also subject to faction relation. High-level pathfinder would be a good choice when travelling at higher speeds (31mph+), and might be better at avoiding combat than Negociator? ......................... vet combatL1 wv cont0,5,0 Posted Nov 9, 2012, 12:07 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Nov 9, 2012, 1:42 am

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,587 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 Juris said: So Pathfinder has no effect at 30 right?  Not the way I understood it... Pathfinder works with the "hidden dice roll" - period. You increase your chances of intercept the faster you go - period. The way I read it they are mutually exclusive, thus they are BOTH in effect all the time. I also suspect that since you can change speed by increments of 1 mph that it's a sliding scale type of effect... ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Nov 9, 2012, 3:54 am

Lord Foul .-^-HellRazors-^. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Rules Council Posts: 3,543 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 Groove Champion said: Chances of trucing with negociator are fairly poor at low spec levels, and are also subject to faction relation. High-level pathfinder would be a good choice when travelling at higher speeds (31mph+), and might be better at avoiding combat than Negociator? Agree, and this is a new problem created with the new spec. in my opinion. Considering even Neg 6-8 for me is usually rejected 50% of the time in an encounter, this new pathfinder spec appears to be better than Neg due to the added chance to avoid encounters while being able to go faster with slight risks. So the question would be, why have a Neg 8 that get's rejected 50% of the time in an encounter even on short trips of 1-2 encounters between towns when a level 8 Pathfinder can avoid these encounters to begin with. Plus you get the added opportunity of being able to go faster with a slight chance of tyre/armor damage and have the new spec counter most of it at level x Pathfinder appears to offer a lot more than the Neg spec as it only works "if" you have an encounter. Pathfinder being really good is nice, but on paper it appears to kill the use of neg quite a bit. ......................... vet race1 deathrce1 wv zom circuit1 pvp1 northernsummer community circuit3 paintball55,206,126 Posted Nov 9, 2012, 5:54 am Last edited Nov 9, 2012, 5:55 am by Lord Foul

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 *jimmylogan* said: Juris said: So Pathfinder has no effect at 30 right?  Not the way I understood it... Pathfinder works with the "hidden dice roll" - period. You increase your chances of intercept the faster you go - period. The way I read it they are mutually exclusive, thus they are BOTH in effect all the time. I also suspect that since you can change speed by increments of 1 mph that it's a sliding scale type of effect... You're mostly correct Jimmy. All apart from the 30mph bit: pathfinder doesn't actually have an effect at this speed. It's very much non-linear: 30mph is 'normal' and there's a totally different calculation going on above 30 than goes on below 30. Each 1mph above 30 adds more danger than is saved by going 1 mph less than 30, if you get me. Particularly if you don't have a pathfinder, going slow gives very little benefit. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Nov 9, 2012, 8:23 am Last edited Nov 9, 2012, 8:25 am by *sam*

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Lord Foul said: Groove Champion said: Chances of trucing with negociator are fairly poor at low spec levels, and are also subject to faction relation. High-level pathfinder would be a good choice when travelling at higher speeds (31mph+), and might be better at avoiding combat than Negociator? Agree, and this is a new problem created with the new spec. in my opinion. Considering even Neg 6-8 for me is usually rejected 50% of the time in an encounter, this new pathfinder spec appears to be better than Neg due to the added chance to avoid encounters while being able to go faster with slight risks. So the question would be, why have a Neg 8 that get's rejected 50% of the time in an encounter even on short trips of 1-2 encounters between towns when a level 8 Pathfinder can avoid these encounters to begin with. Plus you get the added opportunity of being able to go faster with a slight chance of tyre/armor damage and have the new spec counter most of it at level x Pathfinder appears to offer a lot more than the Neg spec as it only works "if" you have an encounter. Pathfinder being really good is nice, but on paper it appears to kill the use of neg quite a bit. Doesn't this all depend on the 'hidden rolls' behind the pathfinder spec LF? Maybe you're right maybe you're wrong, but surely you can't say this without having witnessed the effects of pathfinder. It's all about balance. You are right that pathfinder and negotiator have a large overlap in terms of function, though. We could consider some changes to negotiator maybe. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Nov 9, 2012, 8:26 am Last edited Nov 9, 2012, 8:28 am by *sam*

Racing Robbie The White Ashes Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 761 Joined: Jul 3, 2012 Vroomhoff said: Still would like to see a Scout spec called "fuel mizer" that helped reduce the amount of fuel required for travels. 5% or 10% per level, maybe? “Fuel Mizer” nice idea but it may be better as a driver skill than a scouts. Could add it to a skill with the ability to maintain a high average speed for less chance of damage – say ‘Wilderness Driver’ “Ability to maintain higher speed in the Wilderness whilst reducing fuel use and chances of damage from the landscape” ......................... vet wv northernsummer e2g raceL1 deathrceL1 slay2013 pvp3 ww pvp1 semiprocombat0,1,0 Posted Nov 9, 2012, 10:08 am

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 Racing Robbie said: Vroomhoff said: Still would like to see a Scout spec called "fuel mizer" that helped reduce the amount of fuel required for travels. 5% or 10% per level, maybe? “Fuel Mizer” nice idea but it may be better as a driver skill than a scouts. Could add it to a skill with the ability to maintain a high average speed for less chance of damage – say ‘Wilderness Driver’ “Ability to maintain higher speed in the Wilderness whilst reducing fuel use and chances of damage from the landscape” ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted Nov 9, 2012, 10:32 am

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 Sorry- messed up the last post! What I meant to say was that 'fuel mizer' would be EVEN BETTER as a Trucking spec That would mean that the trucking skill would be worth training up in if you run lorries, tankers etc, whereas now, i'm sure most players just drive trucks with a scouter don't they? ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted Nov 9, 2012, 10:35 am

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,587 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 Brunwulf said: whereas now, i'm sure most players just drive trucks with a scouter don't they? No - scouting skill is "enhanced" by the vehicle. I feel confident that a lorry would make a poor scouting vehicle... ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Nov 9, 2012, 12:34 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Fuel miser would be great if any of you could spell miser ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 9, 2012, 12:44 pm

Racing Robbie The White Ashes Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 761 Joined: Jul 3, 2012 I was thinking more of an universal skill - driver and trucker – being able to drive around lumps and bumps in the wilderness. So that the Pathfinder finds the best way to go, whilst the Wilderness Driver finds the smoothest bit to drive on. ......................... vet wv northernsummer e2g raceL1 deathrceL1 slay2013 pvp3 ww pvp1 semiprocombat0,1,0 Posted Nov 9, 2012, 12:57 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 having Trucker-specific spec(s) is a nice idea in general, though ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Nov 9, 2012, 12:59 pm

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