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lordhuey Cranberries Sunday Driver Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: Jun 24, 2012 Serephe said: You could easily say that 15mph is double checking compared to 30mph, and 45mph is screw the obstacles drive through them, using the same logic. It's easy to justify game changes in world, it's more important to justify them for balance. Absolutely!  I could not agree more.  If you want a new skill b/c it is fun and possibly needed (as in this case where there don't seem to be enough spec's for scouts) then for sure, make a new skill. The example I can remember of when new rules for "reality" go wrong is 3rd Edition "Dungeons and Dragons."  This pen and paper game is so detailed that you have modifiers for just about everything.  So, when the modifier isn't there, the "reality" players bug out.  It seems the more detail you have, the harder it is for some people to let other things just slip into the abstract. ......................... vet wv Posted Nov 11, 2012, 3:45 pm

JuaN VaLDeZ Frontline Assembly Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 512 Joined: Mar 27, 2010 JuaN VaLDeZ said: when i change speed, it tells me the estimated travel time. then when i start the travel and refresh the squad pane, it shows time of arrival as if I had only been going 30, travel time has not been shortened. After I seen some squads with arrival times estimated to arrive before they event have departed i realized the issue is that estimates are shown in local time, not server time. This is a bit confusing ......................... vet wv zom deathrceL1 Posted Nov 11, 2012, 11:22 pm

JuaN VaLDeZ Frontline Assembly Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 512 Joined: Mar 27, 2010 Wouldnt it make sense that our travel speed, is the speed which we start encounters at? If i'm traveling at 20 MPH why do I start off at 30 MPH in the encounters? ......................... vet wv zom deathrceL1 Posted Nov 11, 2012, 11:46 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Quote: The example I can remember of when new rules for "reality" go wrong is 3rd Edition "Dungeons and Dragons."  This pen and paper game is so detailed that you have modifiers for just about everything.  So, when the modifier isn't there, the "reality" players bug out.  It seems the more detail you have, the harder it is for some people to let other things just slip into the abstract. guidelines for mods are great, but really, it should all be GMs stuff. A reason I like things to be a bit hidden here and not always a fixed figure. When things are considered to be a certain way, you get narky (I rather) and start wondering why things are going wrong, rather than except that the gang just picked up some HD ammo or super gripper tyres or some heavy plate for their cars. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Nov 12, 2012, 12:01 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 JuaN VaLDeZ said: Wouldnt it make sense that our travel speed, is the speed which we start encounters at? If i'm traveling at 20 MPH why do I start off at 30 MPH in the encounters? That makes sense. I like it when you are not claiming to break stuff jaun. Makes it much easier to follow your good ideas. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Nov 12, 2012, 12:04 am

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 JuaN VaLDeZ said: Wouldnt it make sense that our travel speed, is the speed which we start encounters at? If i'm traveling at 20 MPH why do I start off at 30 MPH in the encounters? Jesus... A good idea.... But I would add. Higher speed should increase chances of a head on encounter ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 12, 2012, 12:23 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 yes, agreed. Often when travelling with my 5 ram trucks I would like to charge the pack, but when starting at 30, its very hard to pick up speed and not get snogged before you get there. Even with 3+ HSS in the mix, nitro, rocket boosters and lots of car cannons to break their concentration. Its something I only consider in special circumstance. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Nov 12, 2012, 12:40 am

lordhuey Cranberries Sunday Driver Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: Jun 24, 2012 Right, just like old D&D... starts with a "realistic" mod... turns into a bunch of "wouldn't it make sense if..." bring in the rules lawyers... oh look... exploitation! ......................... vet wv Posted Nov 12, 2012, 5:26 am

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 goat starer said: JuaN VaLDeZ said: Wouldnt it make sense that our travel speed, is the speed which we start encounters at? If i'm traveling at 20 MPH why do I start off at 30 MPH in the encounters? Jesus... A good idea.... But I would add. Higher speed should increase chances of a head on encounter both great ideas ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Nov 12, 2012, 10:10 am

Jose Bagg Taco Killers Autodueller Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 477 Joined: Sep 16, 2010 goat starer said: JuaN VaLDeZ said: Wouldnt it make sense that our travel speed, is the speed which we start encounters at? If i'm traveling at 20 MPH why do I start off at 30 MPH in the encounters? Jesus... A good idea.... But I would add. Higher speed should increase chances of a head on encounter I don't think its that good of an idea.  We aren't ALWAYS travelling at 30mph.  Its an average speed.  You might get jumped while you are standing still, or while booking at 70mph down a clear stretch of smooth road.  The starting speed should be randomized, based on your average speed. ......................... vet wv deathrce1 pvp5 paintball gateautumn deathrceL1 pvp4 pvp30,4,0 Posted Nov 12, 2012, 5:23 pm

Mad Mike the mad mad crushers Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 2,900 Joined: Aug 1, 2007 if we travel at 45 miles per hour is there a boost to the amount of skill that you earn in scoutinjg skill? travel faster get more encounters should be balanced by getting more scouting skill that was in my oiriginal suggestion for this years ago ......................... vet wv Posted Nov 12, 2012, 7:15 pm

lordhuey Cranberries Sunday Driver Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: Jun 24, 2012 What about the argument for simply keeping what works? When was the last time you were on a scout and heard someone complaining about 30 mph? Never, right? So why change? It is a game mechanic. This is a game, not virtual reality: 1) the game map appears; 2) you place your game pieces on the board; 3) *boom* everyone starts fighting at 30 mph. Seems fun enough to me. ......................... vet wv Posted Nov 12, 2012, 7:21 pm

Alec Burke Overlanders Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 480 Joined: Sep 5, 2010 Mad Mike said: if we travel at 45 miles per hour is there a boost to the amount of skill that you earn in scoutinjg skill? travel faster get more encounters should be balanced by getting more scouting skill that was in my oiriginal suggestion for this years ago I really don't see this as necessary. Not even certain if I agree with the logic, as I could argue that if you are driving faster, you are doing a poorer job of scouting and should get less skill as a result. And of course a lot of this depends on how exactly the mechanic for training the scout skill works. If the amount of training one gets on a travel is based primarily on the distance traveled, you already are in essence getting a boost from traveling faster, since it will permit you do more travels than you otherwise could. If training is based on the time spent scouting, then traveling faster is reducing your scout training on a travel. (This is just considering the issues of time and distance - I know that there are other factors that matter as well.) And I really don't want to know how training works to that level of detail. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp2 Posted Nov 12, 2012, 7:41 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 lordhuey said: What about the argument for simply keeping what works?  When was the last time you were on a scout and heard someone complaining about 30 mph?  Never, right? So why change? It is a game mechanic.  This is a game, not virtual reality: 1) the game map appears; 2) you place your game pieces on the board; 3)  *boom* everyone starts fighting at 30 mph.  Seems fun enough to me. If you are going to be travelling faster, may as well spawn faster I guess. I guess as is, It could be considered that they have caught you on a slow bit. Alec Burke said: And I really don't want to know how training works to that level of detail. Yay for AB!  ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Nov 12, 2012, 11:12 pm Last edited Nov 12, 2012, 11:12 pm by *Bastille*

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Jose Bagg said: goat starer said: JuaN VaLDeZ said: Wouldnt it make sense that our travel speed, is the speed which we start encounters at? If i'm traveling at 20 MPH why do I start off at 30 MPH in the encounters? Jesus... A good idea.... But I would add. Higher speed should increase chances of a head on encounter I don't think its that good of an idea.  We aren't ALWAYS travelling at 30mph.  Its an average speed.  You might get jumped while you are standing still, or while booking at 70mph down a clear stretch of smooth road.  The starting speed should be randomized, based on your average speed. yep... actually i agree but i think if you start fast you should have a higher risk of ambush or head on ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 12, 2012, 11:38 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 yeah I missed that, good one. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Nov 12, 2012, 11:45 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 what about when your ambushed going 10 mph or whatever and they spawn going 45 mph in your spawn circle ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Nov 12, 2012, 11:57 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 that would suck, and cause much complaint. People would curse and threaten to get on their bikes. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Nov 13, 2012, 12:25 am

Zephyr River City Gamblers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 551 Joined: Dec 12, 2009 I think it's a great addition to the game. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks, Sam. ......................... vet wv Posted Nov 13, 2012, 12:57 am

Mad Mike the mad mad crushers Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 2,900 Joined: Aug 1, 2007 I just thought today that instead of typing in a speed, a drop down menu should be there where you can select: safe speed faster speed reckless speed.. and of course for you spaceball fans LUDICROUS SPEED lol or something like that... that way the speed to avcerage isnt related to an actual MPH but the type of speed ... for those that do not know the faster you go the bigger the chance of ambush etc... cant wait to travel with a mega scout and select the fastest speed! ......................... vet wv Posted Nov 13, 2012, 1:38 am

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