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scrap value of cars

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Necrotech said: Here's my $0.02 I think the break/fix mechanic of scav would work well within the normal game. If one has sufficient enough skill and appropriate parts, why do you need money to fix up things? It's the same idea as to why would a person you is a mechanic go to a shop to replace an alternator? He can buy or aquire the parts, yes, but why would he *need* to pay for his own labor? I believe a less reliance on camps and money to get things done makes for a more interesting and logistical game. I also believe more of a barter system should be place. For instance, NPC in town wants 5 scrap for 1 can of gas, Will give 2 Ep's for 1 medical supply unit, etc. Where players may also set trade and barter ratios. However, one cannot simply remove money from the game as a whole, but lessening (not eliminating) the reliance on it and making a finite amount of it would be a refreshing change. Almost making a dual currency system where hard goods and currency directly compete. Maybe for the money itself, 1000 Texan Dollars are worth 1250 Somerset Ducats (Exchange rate) but to also exchange that to another form of currency a 10% handling fee is in order. (Suggestion on the money handling) Perhaps some NPC's/Players only want trade goods for vehicles in town and not money. How you get those trade goods is up to you. (purchase, trade, steal, raid...) I think there is sense in this, but it would make things bloody complicated and very messy I would think. why do I take my Chinese Stealth armour and Gauss Rifle to someone with 10% of my repair skill rather than fix it myself. Why do I just wear Enclave Hellfire Armour and use Gatling Lasers instead. Its easy. The more complex the system the more bugs. Why do people say that Bethesda is a Buggy nightmare mess; because its more dynamic than any of its counterparts, and way more interesting for it. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jan 3, 2013, 3:38 am

Blaer Andre Assault Autodueller Renegade Group: Members Posts: 276 Joined: Mar 9, 2008 Uh... just puttin this out there... cause I'm a scav player and love that we get heard... but no... no car parts for scraping chassis... get'm for scraping engines and weapons perhaps? ......................... vet wv Posted Jan 3, 2013, 5:56 am

JuaN VaLDeZ Frontline Assembly Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 512 Joined: Mar 27, 2010 Heres an idea... new ped item, 4 bulk, toolkit. If you have a toolkit you get a slight bonus to skill uses, (or possibly a slight bonus to skill gains, say 5%). When you strip a car you can get car parts and scrap metal in addition to the items you get without the tool kit. Maybe include a chance of looting a tool kit after a successful scout, that way, scavs can a hold of one of them. ......................... vet wv zom deathrceL1 Posted Jan 3, 2013, 7:53 am Last edited Jan 3, 2013, 7:54 am by JuaN VaLDeZ

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Blaer said: Uh... just puttin this out there... cause I'm a scav player and love that we get heard... but no... no car parts for scraping chassis... get'm for scraping engines and weapons perhaps? absolutely i get them when i trash a car with HMG fire in the wild but not when i drive that car home and carefully  break it down with a 100+ mech??? please can you look at this sam and why has nobody on the RC mentioned it or considered it? oh... i know.. and no Juan.. we dont need a bloody toolkit.. our mechs have tools OBVIOUSLY.. when they recover parts from engine destroyed cars in the wild they get car parts.. they should get them from trashing cars in town too ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jan 3, 2013, 1:53 pm Last edited Jan 3, 2013, 1:55 pm by goat starer

*Snipe* Renshai Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 581 Joined: Aug 31, 2009 Yeah, well RC has been discussing some things. But all we can do ultimately is talk about it. There are things being discussed already - I have been following and listening. I will get to it. But ultimately it comes down to Sam checking in and making a decision - we can all discuss till we are red in the face....you know how it goes. ......................... vet wv gateautumn sssc santa1 raceL1 deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom combatL1 pvp52,6,2 Posted Jan 3, 2013, 7:13 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 well one day sam will have time to look at this... and the infinite spawning snakes.... PLEASE!!! ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jan 3, 2013, 10:35 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 goat starer said: well one day sam will have time to look at this... and the infinite spawning snakes.... PLEASE!!!  if you don't have an event ID it didn't happen  ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Jan 3, 2013, 11:51 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Sam has the event is ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jan 4, 2013, 12:32 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 BUMP were i a normal gang  could get CPs by taking things to camp to break down... BUT SCAV GANGS CANT JOIN CAMPS so where am i supposed to get the CPs you NEED in scav to repair things? this cant be a difficult fix ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jan 9, 2013, 10:13 am Last edited Jan 9, 2013, 10:27 am by goat starer

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 goat starer said: SAM!!! happy christmas and new year  by the way! Hmm? oh, sorry. I have changed the 'scrap vehicle in camp/town' code so there should be twice as much yielded now. I have no excuse for being so slow in responding. I could make something up, but that would only belittle us all, wouldn't it?  ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jan 10, 2013, 4:39 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 yeah.. but we love you! ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jan 11, 2013, 12:44 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Quote: I have changed the 'scrap vehicle in camp/town' code so there should be twice as much yielded now. Nice! Quote: I have no excuse for being so slow in responding. I could make something up, but that would only belittle us all, wouldn't it? But, I like hearing fanciful tales of wo. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jan 11, 2013, 1:40 am

Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted Jan 11, 2013, 2:33 am

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 sam... there has been no change in town breakdown. get the same scrap and still get no car parts ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jan 15, 2013, 8:37 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 I don't seem to have seen much difference in camp either, I shall break down some more and see. Im not sure if my (6) mechanic will be able to make much note of what is happening in scav. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jan 15, 2013, 9:18 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 I got a toooon of scrap metals in loot today, something liek 2-3 stacks of 35, but maybe my lvl 5 scavenger had something to do with that, never used him before. this was in normal dw ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Jan 15, 2013, 9:28 pm Last edited Jan 15, 2013, 9:29 pm by *Tinker*

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Thats in Loot yeah (yeah of course, stack of 35.... wait what!? STACKS of 35!?!), not when breaking down in Town/camp? ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jan 15, 2013, 9:49 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 its only town i care about and only in scav... its easy to get enough car parts in reg at camps or in market its almost impossible in scav ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jan 16, 2013, 4:42 pm

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