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Robin Hood: Why we Do what we Do

lostsoul214 Rats of the Sand Pedestrian Renegade Group: Subscribers Posts: 22 Joined: Feb 26, 2009 You know it's funny as I'm new here. I think what's happening is quite foolish and has completely turned me off the the PvP part. I have no interest in CoEs at all. What's the point when your gonna have 3-4 vehicles shooting you till your red. I just don't get it I guess. It's also funny cause I've thought this game had an awesome bunch of people (and there is) up until the last couple of weeks. I just can't see redding anyone, there's more than enough npcs to go around. What good would it do me to completely destroy the people who play right beside me over and over again? Eventually they will all leave. Oh joy, now I can play all by myself..... kind of stupid really. I dunno just frustrated and looking to vent. ......................... vet wv northernsummer0,9,0 Posted May 22, 2013, 10:51 am Last edited May 22, 2013, 10:53 am by lostsoul214

Vroomhoff Lobotomizers Racer Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 240 Joined: Sep 5, 2012 Don't take it personally. The Alley want to put noobs in their place to teach them who they're supposed to respect. You either enjoy the challenge of PvP and will recruit gangers specifically so you can enjoy it, or you don't and you won't play the PvP part of the game. Just be aware that the different COE's have different rules. I enjoy COE 3, for example, because everyone gets to use the same cars and there's far less advantage given to those with the best gangers and biggest pocket books. Other racing leagues are the same way and many of the "mediocre", stock or combat leagues are unattended by the Alley because the money or the rares aren't good enough. Hang in there and you will find your place. lostsoul214 said: You know it's funny as I'm new here. I think what's happening is quite foolish and has completely turned me off the the PvP part. I have no interest in CoEs at all. What's the point when your gonna have 3-4 vehicles shooting you till your red. I just don't get it I guess. It's also funny cause I've thought this game had an awesome bunch of people (and there is) up until the last couple of weeks. I just can't see redding anyone, there's more than enough npcs to go around. What good would it do me to completely destroy the people who play right beside me over and over again? Eventually they will all leave. Oh joy, now I can play all by myself..... kind of stupid really. I dunno just frustrated and looking to vent. ......................... vet wv race1 e2g ped2 circuit3 semiprocombat northernsummer pvp5 Posted May 22, 2013, 12:21 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 The alley crew putting newbs in their place heh.... that is an interesting perspective. Its a real good thing in a way what some players try and do for the RP element of the game. This IS a game, a PvP game, of a real persistent environment where we are fighting for survival (read the back stories if you have not yet, they are pretty cool). Nasty underhanded tactics are expected to a point. When I arrived here I remember my first few group events, I was asked to back stab this guy and kill that guy, it was all pretty cool and its warranted game play in this Role play game Is the bar at times a little too high? Thats a valid point I think. From my experience the likes of Joel will be most respectful of your pov if you don't want to play that way. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted May 22, 2013, 1:00 pm

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 *Bastille* said: The alley crew putting newbs in their place heh.... that is an interesting perspective. Its a real good thing in a way what some players try and do for the RP element of the game. This IS a game, a PvP game, of a real persistent environment where we are fighting for survival (read the back stories if you have not yet, they are pretty cool). Nasty underhanded tactics are expected to a point. When I arrived here I remember my first few group events, I was asked to back stab this guy and kill that guy, it was all pretty cool and its warranted game play in this Role play game Is the bar at times a little too high? Thats a valid point I think. From my experience the likes of Joel will be most respectful of your pov if you don't want to play that way. Yes- I agree entirely. Any new players should not be scared of entering any events for fear of getting picked on and murdered by one side or the other. I don't think the Alleys do what they do to (as Vroomhoff said) "put noobs in their place" Necro in particular is a very friendly and helpful player to noobs,  he used to give me masses of help and advice- until I went up against the Alleys- which was my own decision. I am no fan of the Alleys, and am considered an 'enemy' of the Alleys, yet in the last few months I have been intercepted by Necro, Joel, Longo, Tinker- and ALL of them respected my resign and didn't murder my gangers. Even when I used to goad them all in CoE events last season- they all let my gangers live once I was done for. As far as I know there are no players currently who intercept or red anyone just for the laugh of it. Blackwill & Snipe (who i both massively like, admire, and respect) and others, need to remember sometimes that if you're going to dance with the Devil- you have to expect the occasional red hot trident up the ass! ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted May 22, 2013, 1:28 pm Last edited May 22, 2013, 1:45 pm by Brunwulf

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 I believe Robin Hood expect it more than any, thats why they fight against the Alley, all the while the rich fat merchants in Texan and other close consorted camps receive their riches. Rich indeed. Makes you wonder. Thats why I stand alone as a Red. The only recognised Red left, since my comrades left. They are still around somewhere (goat just probably can't figure out how to get the peddlers to like him again :facepalm: ), but as far as that board reads, Im the only Red in the village. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted May 22, 2013, 2:54 pm

Blackwill Shankill Butchers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 650 Joined: Jul 27, 2012 lostsoul214 said: You know it's funny as I'm new here. I think what's happening is quite foolish and has completely turned me off the the PvP part. I have no interest in CoEs at all. What's the point when your gonna have 3-4 vehicles shooting you till your red.  This.  This is what we are trying to eliminate, and for this very reason.  When new players are blasted into red vapor, for no other reason than a demonstration of weapons prowess, we eventually lose those players.  The same thing happened to X-Man and myself when we first started, repeatedly, event after event.  Fortunately (??), both of us decided that, rather than quit the game, we would do what we could to fight back. This is not a fight between two camps, or two groups of players.  This is a fight for the longevity and expansion of the game's player base.  ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 Posted May 22, 2013, 3:19 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Thats it, embrace your hatred, go to the darkside. I'll be the carebear in the corner sipping lemonade ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted May 22, 2013, 3:49 pm

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 I know I am gonna regret this... Blackwill ....  If somebody gave an enema you'd turn transparent. All you are preaching is lies and rhetoric This isn't at all about longevity and expanding player base. This is about him, one day entering semi-pro league event, and losing to a twin HMG merc. Then crying *NOT FAIR* that somebody was better prepared and wondering why the entire user base didn't join in his foolishness. Failing that argument, your vow to "Level the playing field" by eliminating all gangers better than you, starting with mine and Joel's. That certainly did not turn out well, and the "Religion's" membership was reduced severely. Not ganger specs, but by outright player skill. Whether you quit of out frustration or RL issues for a time I do not know. What I do know, that you joined Robin Hood, not for your comrades, not for the everyman and newbie, the competition, or for anything else but your wounded pride and ego, for your personal own agenda. They are only a means to an end. Unfortunately, at least they have earned the chops. They earned their stripes. They have earned respect. For somebody who talks in circles and demagoguery, you are of little or no substance. Each of them, with no distractions have faced me from time to time. You, could not even conceive of such a notion. It would painfully show and quite obviously how much, much more you have yet to learn. So get grinding, get learning, earn those stripes. You want fight against me directly, please do... I don't fight with uber-gangers... skilled in some cases... but not overwhelming.. I could do sub gangers. Back your words with action for once. Show that your words have conviction. Prove yourself, Earn that respect. Otherwise forever you will remain the lesser man of a lesser house. Blackwill said: lostsoul214 said: You know it's funny as I'm new here. I think what's happening is quite foolish and has completely turned me off the the PvP part. I have no interest in CoEs at all. What's the point when your gonna have 3-4 vehicles shooting you till your red.  This.  This is what we are trying to eliminate, and for this very reason.  When new players are blasted into red vapor, for no other reason than a demonstration of weapons prowess, we eventually lose those players.  The same thing happened to X-Man and myself when we first started, repeatedly, event after event.  Fortunately (??), both of us decided that, rather than quit the game, we would do what we could to fight back. This is not a fight between two camps, or two groups of players.  This is a fight for the longevity and expansion of the game's player base.  ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted May 22, 2013, 3:58 pm Last edited May 22, 2013, 4:01 pm by Necrotech

Blackwill Shankill Butchers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 650 Joined: Jul 27, 2012 Well, Bast, that's always an option But, wouldn't you rather see the game evolve into one with a robust, healthy, and diverse group of players? Wouldn't you rather, as Snipe mentioned earlier, be able to go into the lobby at any time of the day and find a number of fun scouts/travels/assassinations/etc to choose from, and good conversation in the meantime? How about good, old fashioned, friendly competition, without having to worry about some blackguard intentionally wiping out your crew simply because he gets off on it? I can't say I remember the "good old days" when it was like this, because these ne'er-do-wells were here before I was, but it sure sounds appealing to me. The best events I have been in were those self-same "friendly competition" events.....with everyone doing their best to win (and ONLY win), and laughing and poking fun at each other all the while. It didn't matter if your engine was taken out just before you crossed the finish line, because you knew the guy who did it worked for it, and wasn't going to sit behind you and blow the crap out of your gangers. He was going to zip past you, give you a high-five, and tell you what a fun race it was. That's the Darkwind I want to play. That's the Darkwind the Robin Hood gang wants to play. And, that's the Darkwind we are fighting for. ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 Posted May 22, 2013, 4:05 pm

Blackwill Shankill Butchers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 650 Joined: Jul 27, 2012 As for Necro: As usual (almost always, in fact), you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You don't know me, and I can assure you that you are so far off base with your guesses as to my motives, as to make your opinions comical. I do consider you to be a detriment to this game, rather than a part of it, but other than that, you are persona non grata. This is not my first trip around the block, fella. I know these games, and I know what makes them popular. I also know what makes them fail, and I'd rather not see this one do that. ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 Posted May 22, 2013, 4:11 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 This is the only real RPG computer game Ive played I must say, and thats greatly thx to the open design that any PnP RPG player can relate too, and peeps that play hard.  For anyone reading, new or old casual player, that has no idea on this conflict; there are many options in this game and you can play at many different levels, in many different events. Leagues, solo, group. For kicks, Serious and all combinations above. I have tried most besides the hard core conflict and enjoyed it over 4 years. Theres something here for anyone. Even the hard core RPGamer. Now thats rare, and gold in my book, even if I only take part in a minor part of it. Its all fun folks. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted May 22, 2013, 5:07 pm

*Snipe* Renshai Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 581 Joined: Aug 31, 2009 The point here seems to be getting diluted. And all the constant back and forth is only diluting it further. The issue brought up by this post was the intentional redding of characters and blowing up of equipment. And as far as I know there aren't many in this game that do that sort of stuff. I have and will shoot up any and all Alley members I can - but when the resign goes up, I stop (even when that player is Joel and Necro). Even though I have been redded out by Joel and Necro in the past. The point here is that you can fight what you perceive as bullying tactics without bullying. And the post by Lost earlier is the reason that these types of behavior are hurting the game. Granted - this is a game about a future filled with violence and greed - but what it all comes down to is that when a vehicle gets blown up on purpose, that player loses what amounts to time on the game. The newer and mid-level players can't take the hits as easy as the players who are able to replace any equipment losses for peanuts at camp. And how are they ever going to get their gangers to a skill level to compete that way? I can totally see the benefits of grouping together under common causes - but it needs to be tempered with common sense. Starting with motivation - I have given my reasons for starting my group, and have some friends that agree with my perspective and want to help. The question is - why is the Alley together? From my understanding from the beginning they are out there to dominate. Dominate leagues, intercepts and whatever else you guys are into. Which is fine - I suppose - but what gets me is that most of the vets with ability seem to have flocked to that standard. Not quite the most fair - but I am still fine with that - and it hasn't scared me away a bit. It just saddens me that most vets would rather be the bully than fight the bully. But considering the real world - guess it does make sense. I just need to make sure people understand that RH does not try to blow out the competition in our events. We take care of the Alley (if they show) then it is played the way we think it should be. Shooting at each other? yup. And with that kind of action people can get hurt - equipment can be lost. But take it from me - personal experience - I would rather have my stuff taken out by a friendly competitor than be blasted out by the Alley. ......................... vet wv gateautumn sssc santa1 raceL1 deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom combatL1 pvp52,6,2 Posted May 22, 2013, 5:09 pm

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 Thou protest too much I see. Based on past case history with in private and more importantly, in the public forums, one could strongly disagree. Yes, yes.. 20 years+ (supposedly) of game "testing". {typically it is called playing BTW, many of here has similiar experience} Just because you have done something, certainly does not mean you were good at it. Again.. I offer the chance for you meet me head on. Show your salt... Set words aside and let the guns do the talking. That is Dark Wind... not yours... not my Dark Wind Sam Redfern's Dark Wind. Blackwill said: As for Necro:  As usual (almost always, in fact), you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.  You don't know me, and I can assure you that you are so far off base with your guesses as to my motives, as to make your opinions comical. I do consider you to be a detriment to this game, rather than a part of it, but other than that, you are  persona non grata. This is not my first trip around the block, fella.  I know these games, and I know what makes them popular.  I also know what makes them fail, and I'd rather not see this one do that. ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted May 22, 2013, 5:15 pm

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 *AMEN* Brother! *Bastille* said: This is the only real RPG computer game Ive played I must say, and thats greatly thx to the open design that any PnP RPG player can relate too, and peeps that play hard.  For anyone reading, new or old casual player, that has no idea on this conflict; there are many options in this game and you can play at many different levels, in many different events. Leagues, solo, group. For kicks, Serious and all combinations above. I have tried most besides the hard core conflict and enjoyed it over 4 years. Theres something here for anyone. Even the hard core RPGamer. Now thats rare, and gold in my book, even if I only take part in a minor part of it. Its all fun folks. ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted May 22, 2013, 5:16 pm

*Snipe* Renshai Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 581 Joined: Aug 31, 2009 And as far as saying that this has "nothing to do" with player longevity and gameplay - take this into consideration. I am a social player - always have been, always will be. And I have been scouting with most players at any time. But since this whole Alley/RH thing I have noticed that not a single Alley member scouts with me anymore. So, the player base has essentially halved for me. The only reason I can see that I am being avoided is that I am in a "rival" group. The problem is that some can't distinguish between player and gang. Because you have designated a player as a n enemy to your gang does not mean you as a player need to perpetuate it. I shoot at everyone - and everyone shoots at me.....welcome to Darkwind. I started this whole RH thing on the Dexters forum to try and keep it in the RP atmosphere, but not many were into that - so I stopped. But to have a small player base like we have - it is not worth it to have half the players against you - and only against you. Makes the game not so much fun - except when the COEs roll around and I get a chance to "play" with the other half. I am not out to ostracize anyone - I am just out for fun. ......................... vet wv gateautumn sssc santa1 raceL1 deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom combatL1 pvp52,6,2 Posted May 22, 2013, 5:31 pm

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 Why not have a massive PVP battle? It will be the greatest event in the game's history, and the townsfolk will sing songs of it for generations. Just a thought. ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted May 22, 2013, 5:44 pm

*Snipe* Renshai Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 581 Joined: Aug 31, 2009 Brunwulf said: Why not have a massive PVP battle? It will be the greatest event in the game's history, and the townsfolk will sing songs of it for generations. Just a thought. What do you think the end result of making 2 opposing groups in a game like this is?  Two groups enter - one group leaves. Problem being that we need to get more players on the RH side to make it at least a little even. ......................... vet wv gateautumn sssc santa1 raceL1 deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom combatL1 pvp52,6,2 Posted May 22, 2013, 5:54 pm

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 Set a max CR 2000 per side. Minimum 3 players per side. Choose time date and squad... Brawl... ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted May 22, 2013, 6:13 pm

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 Why do you need more than what you have? Alot of our newer guys would love to have this opportunity. Oh Hell who I am kidding... I would do something like this just for the sheer bloody fun of it all. Win, lose, or draw.. it'd be Epic! Just set a min/max limit.. jerk your pistols and get to work. *Snipe* said: Brunwulf said: Why not have a massive PVP battle? It will be the greatest event in the game's history, and the townsfolk will sing songs of it for generations. Just a thought. What do you think the end result of making 2 opposing groups in a game like this is?  Two groups enter - one group leaves. Problem being that we need to get more players on the RH side to make it at least a little even. ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted May 22, 2013, 6:15 pm Last edited May 22, 2013, 6:23 pm by Necrotech

Blackwill Shankill Butchers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 650 Joined: Jul 27, 2012 Let me correct, again, one of Necro's blatant misunderstandings; "Play testing" a game differs from playing the final commercial release of the finished product. In an Alpha, Beta, or Pre-Release play test, it is the goal of the play test team to try to break the game...find loopholes, bugs, oddities, and unbalancing aspects of the game in order to fix them before it goes public. That is not the same as "playing" the game. Once again, you do not know what you are talking about. As for the heads-up battle, of course I will take you on, as I would any player who challenged me. That having been said, it is not about you. You are merely the sucker fish attached to the real sharks, feeding off of their carrion, and using them for protection. The real sharks are the ultimate targets. ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 Posted May 22, 2013, 6:49 pm

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