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Serephe Collision Force Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,496 Joined: Dec 9, 2007 Camps only found as maps in loot. Find a camp that's already occupied? Congratulations, attack them and conquer it for yourself. Tears from carebears. Nevermind, just throw some money at it. ......................... vet wv paintladder ww0,3,0 Posted Jul 12, 2013, 3:29 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 yeah.. more draconian measures might be an idea, but not without 'due diligence' etc.. can we discuss this? for example, how about every week there is no owner or manager logging in, the camp takes substantial damage and after a few weeks it gets razed by bandits? for the moment though, I have no problem getting a new camp created.. just PM me your preferred location and size and I'll pick a survey fee out of the air.. er.. apply my careful and fair costing formula to objectively determine the survey fee. (Some locations are already too busy with camps so I may reject them and/or suggest an alternative near-ish-by) ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Jul 12, 2013, 12:56 pm Last edited Jul 12, 2013, 12:57 pm by *sam*

*Dark Tempest* The Black Legion Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,049 Joined: Jan 27, 2010 Longo said: or if they are not used for a while, remap them and make them a chance at being loot like the old days  +1 ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 Posted Jul 12, 2013, 1:42 pm

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 Respectfully... Being a heavy camper, I see some issues. A - There is a *TON* of camps already. Adding more IMHO makes the situation worse. They should of a limited quantity and highly valued. B - I do believe that camps, if ill tended or abandoned, should take *SUBSTANTIAL* damage or penalties. If an active camp owner has unsubbed or whatever, instead of handing over for free a member via a vote, it should be paid for C/O the First Bank of Somerset by the heir apparent (if there is one) or just let it get swallowed by the desert and removed from the map after an alotted amount of time. Example... I love Karz Master, but there is no reason that Red Light District should exist as a camp. Cry Havoc... same thing Even be nice and automatically move all player gangers to the nearest or even just Somerset. But the camp and contents... Gone and taken apart by creatures and nomads. C - There should be a mechanism that camps should be able to be attacked. If raiders and other malcontents can do a camp attack, the option for a player squad based from a camp should be able to take the place of that attack. Leave the CR limits and defensive modifiers. Camps should have defensive strength modifier. Even have the capability to build defensive structures that bump defensive modifiers, but they count against the upkeep and fame numbers as well. ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted Jul 12, 2013, 1:48 pm Last edited Jul 12, 2013, 2:06 pm by Necrotech

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Quote: for example, how about every week there is no owner or manager logging in, the camp takes substantial damage and after a few weeks it gets razed by bandits? A week is pretty short. You could set your camp up to survive (and yet still take some heavy damage as it is) with supplies to last a few weeks if you wanted to take a break. With the level of attention a camp requires in the first place, I would not think this is against the spirit of the game if you wanted a break and couldn't find anyone to take care of things short term. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jul 12, 2013, 3:05 pm

Sarge K R U Autodueller Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: Mar 6, 2011 Also, as has happened to me recently, the camp manager decides not to return to the game and sort out a hand over, so we are screwed if the vote mechanism wasn't there. Perhaps when you take over a camp you should decide in some recordable way who your choice is of who would take over your camp if you went AWOL? I think it should default to someone who is a camp manager with a vote amongst the managers if needed to decide amongst them. (Which is pretty much what happens now after a 6 week absence by the owner). ......................... vet wv0,3,0 Posted Jul 12, 2013, 3:13 pm

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 "If an active camp owner has unsubbed or whatever, instead of handing over for free to a member via a vote, it should be paid for C/O the First Bank of Somerset by the heir apparent....." The problem is that I have seen, and in a small part helped others abuse this "transfer of ownership" Free is way too easy.... ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted Jul 12, 2013, 4:39 pm

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 I love the "treasure maps" as loot though ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted Jul 12, 2013, 4:41 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Camps are our money sinks...for this reason I am against them as loot. They are end game that should be accessible to anyone with time , determination, hours put in this game. That is often best represented via money...or a camp handing over inheritance....not getting lucky vs shanty pirates ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Jul 12, 2013, 5:20 pm

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 Make money a limited commodity... aka there is only a fixed amount of dollars in Evan, then money would be worth something. Whole another topic. But camps shouldn't also be an initially FREE item, inherited or otherwise. That money is investiture into that camp. But also camps should have the ability to be attacked at least on some open basis. Being CLOSED should not mean the camp walls are immune to cannon fire and mortar shells. ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted Jul 12, 2013, 5:32 pm

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 *sam* said: yeah.. more draconian measures might be an idea, but not without 'due diligence' etc.. can we discuss this? for example, how about every week there is no owner or manager logging in, the camp takes substantial damage and after a few weeks it gets razed by bandits? for the moment though, I have no problem getting a new camp created.. just PM me your preferred location and size and I'll pick a survey fee out of the air.. er.. apply my careful and fair costing formula to objectively determine the survey fee. (Some locations are already too busy with camps so I may reject them and/or suggest an alternative near-ish-by) I think your exact mechanism is not as important as the basic idea that eventually the wastes swallow them up (bandits raise them, make a new base out of the them, etc).  This lets other players have a chance to create them from scratch. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Jul 12, 2013, 9:33 pm

Lord Foul .-^-HellRazors-^. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Rules Council Posts: 3,543 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 Necrotech said: Respectfully... Example... I love Karz Master, but there is no reason that Red Light District should exist as a camp. Cry Havoc... same thing It's not that they should not exist as camps, the camps should be handed off to active members and sold if the still active members decided it was not worth keeping the camp. If I had the camp, I would ask all active members their thoughts about what to do with the camp, if it was decided it was to much effort it would have been sold off and the cash split up amongst the remaining active members. The new owners could then do as they pleased, either allow the active members to stay and contribute are have them leave. ......................... vet race1 deathrce1 wv zom circuit1 pvp1 northernsummer community circuit3 paintball55,206,126 Posted Jul 12, 2013, 10:33 pm

Juris Hessians Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: Sep 16, 2010 Don't all camps get attacked every few weeks by raiders? I know if the camp doesn't fight or loses camp buildings take damage. Why not just say when all the buildings are destroyed the camp is destroyed? ......................... vet wv pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 race1 zom pvp2 deathrce1 pvp3 combat1 Posted Jul 12, 2013, 10:38 pm

Philyn Holy Mutant Death Squad Autodueller Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Members Posts: 303 Joined: Nov 1, 2008 Camps can only be attacked if they are "Open" meaning building or harvesting. This is a good option at times because you get 48 hour notice of an attack and it is nice to be able to close down if you are going to be unavailable for a time. I think a option to consider is every camp must be open for at least 1 day a month. If a camp never opens you can assume that it is deserted. At that point maybe everything there goes into "storage" for a time and the camp is locked down(owned by the bank) and after a time the unclaimed camp is actioned off. This would allow non owners to claim their items. ......................... vet gwped wv northernsummer Posted Jul 12, 2013, 10:56 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 dear god.... you have scav.. its sorts this stuff out... it would make camps meaningful making ammo or fuel or water or pumpkins... but keep it the way it is.. its funny ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jul 13, 2013, 12:17 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 Joel Autobaun said: Camps are our money sinks...for this reason I am against them as loot. They are end game that should be accessible to anyone with time , determination, hours put in this game.  That is often best represented via money...or a camp handing over inheritance....not getting lucky vs shanty pirates Could there be another measure of success to allow a camp to be found as end game content? {gives joel bunny ears} ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jul 13, 2013, 1:37 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 goat starer said: dear god.... you have scav.. its sorts this stuff out... it would make camps meaningful making ammo or fuel or water or pumpkins... but keep it the way it is.. its funny Hmmm, scav camps, what a wonderful idea. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jul 13, 2013, 1:38 am

JS Hitmen Trucking Inc -CI- Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: Jan 9, 2010 Juris said: Don't all camps get attacked every few weeks by raiders?  I know if the camp doesn't fight or loses camp buildings take damage.  Why not just say when all the buildings are destroyed the camp is destroyed? Yes, they have a chance to be attacked by NPCs.  These are cap defenses.  Not sure what happens if they are reduced to 0, but they should be destroyed. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp3 pvp4 Posted Jul 13, 2013, 6:09 am

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 I'd rather be able to make my small camp BIGGER. or move it to a different location (load it all up and move like nomads). I think that failed defenses or inactive camps shoudl shrink in size until it is thew smallest i can be, but with time effort and cash spent, a tiny camp could grow in size to be useful. Mine is fun, but not terribly useful to "the masses". it's just a hole in the wall for a few of us to play in. Would be nice to change the dynamic of how camps grow and shrink. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Jul 13, 2013, 6:32 am

Daveyh Electric Dave Racer Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 121 Joined: Oct 20, 2012 *sam* said: yeah.. more draconian measures might be an idea, but not without 'due diligence' etc.. can we discuss this? for example, how about every week there is no owner or manager logging in, the camp takes substantial damage and after a few weeks it gets razed by bandits? for the moment though, I have no problem getting a new camp created.. just PM me your preferred location and size and I'll pick a survey fee out of the air.. er.. apply my careful and fair costing formula to objectively determine the survey fee. (Some locations are already too busy with camps so I may reject them and/or suggest an alternative near-ish-by) Sam - thought about it some more. Someone may leave for whatever reason - found something new, RL , etc. - and them come back.  Destroying the camp would probably cause them to leave as they spent time (our real currency) in building something in a game to have it taken when they are out.  So the real Even mechanic of loot and pillage is valid, but for gaming, it would not help with players.  Just bury it in the sand and take it off the map.  They can pay a fee of cash and time to dig it back up.  Sam will still know where they are.  I would like to see the map cleaned up.  Until recently I've just  thought all the camps were operational.  ......................... vet wv sssc gwextrav ped1 paintball gateautumn paintladder gwped ped2 e2g raceL1 deathrceL1 combatL1 pvp5 race1 Posted Jul 13, 2013, 3:09 pm

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