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Are carrier vans just a bad idea

Bolt Thrower Quantum Symphony Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: Sep 12, 2013 or do you just need a very high scout to have any chance of moving them between town. I have gotten ambushed badly twice at Forever Yellow Skies with bad results. ......................... vet wv northernsummer1,92,1 Posted Dec 18, 2013, 8:57 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 No... They're a VERY bad idea. ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit32,18,0 Posted Dec 18, 2013, 9:12 pm

GrowlingBadger Meles Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 722 Joined: Jul 29, 2010 I use em for ballistics training behind a line of other cars. 2 x CGL and tons of ammo and space for loot to bring home. Because they are crap the CR is very low so doesn;t add much to the overall squad. Naturally if it goes pair shaped it's gonna die, so don;t let that happen! GB ......................... vet wv circuit2 circuit1 pvp5 pvp4 Posted Dec 18, 2013, 9:30 pm

PA Racers PA Racers Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 1,005 Joined: Feb 11, 2010 I used 3.2L pu's till I got some BPU's, best to go that route. If you need any can get you some. Think theres a few in the Hollowground car lot for $1 each. ......................... vet wv ww northernsummer gwextrav gateautumn raceL1 race1 elmsautumn deathrceL1 e2g santa1 paintladder paintball pvp1 pvp4 pvp3 deathrce1 pvp2 combat1 circuit2 circuit3 circuit1 pvp528,161,23 Posted Dec 18, 2013, 9:40 pm

Bolt Thrower Quantum Symphony Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: Sep 12, 2013 Thanks for answers. I have been using 3.2L pu's with decent results, but got destroyed last night with a van. I was hoping to get to FL on my own, not as cargo. PA, can I actually go to the camp and purchase stuff if I am not a member? Edit: remove possibly offensive word. ......................... vet wv northernsummer1,92,1 Posted Dec 18, 2013, 9:57 pm Last edited Dec 18, 2013, 10:08 pm by Bolt Thrower

PA Racers PA Racers Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 1,005 Joined: Feb 11, 2010 Have to apply for membership first, if you not hauling cargo best to go with a voy. ......................... vet wv ww northernsummer gwextrav gateautumn raceL1 race1 elmsautumn deathrceL1 e2g santa1 paintladder paintball pvp1 pvp4 pvp3 deathrce1 pvp2 combat1 circuit2 circuit3 circuit1 pvp528,161,23 Posted Dec 18, 2013, 10:07 pm

Bolt Thrower Quantum Symphony Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: Sep 12, 2013 Ok. Thank you PA. ......................... vet wv northernsummer1,92,1 Posted Dec 18, 2013, 10:34 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 PA Racers said: Have to apply for membership first, if you not hauling cargo best to go with a voy. Voys are garbage. what is the purpose of the travel?  Taxi?  Cargo? Courier? The preferred chassis will change based on purpose.  Her is a small list of things I've used for cargo: Cargo 3.2L A armor Pickup (Suspension Length 90 Stiffness 110) 3.2L A armor Estate (Susp Length 105, Stiff 105) 3.2LV8 A armor Landrunner (Susp Ln: 103, Stiff 98) 3.2LV8 A armor BPU (no adjustments) ---The PU is decent anywhere.  Occasionally Turtles and bounces but player skill will combat this.  Decent Accel.  NOT safe to drive to FL in but anyplace else is fine ---Estate carries 5 more cargo than a similarly set PU but takes increased damage if hit.  doesn't turtle as easily as the PU.  similar Accel to PU.  Also NOT safe to drive to FL in. ---Landrunner turtles a little more than the PU but holds vastly more cargo.  Handles terrain much better than any car ive used but requires more attention to details when cresting hills (ie: player experience to prevent rolls and turtles).  NOT safe for a FL run.  Excellent accel ----BPU is probably the best for a FL run of any car.  However it bogs down in sand and this makes it NOT safe for the areas near SS and EF unless you are skilled at low speed escape tactics.  Somewhat slower accel than other chassis without exposing the engine by using a 5L.  Vast amount of cargo space. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Dec 18, 2013, 10:51 pm Last edited Dec 18, 2013, 10:52 pm by StCrispin

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Taxi and Courier vehicles differ from my cargo preferences. I can detail those if you want as well. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Dec 18, 2013, 10:53 pm

Bolt Thrower Quantum Symphony Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: Sep 12, 2013 I was doing a courier mission with a high bulk. I will probably use a pickup. I drive those fairly decently. For travel, I use mostly a pho. I don't tend to taxi my characters much, mostly doing scout training and some couriermissions. I have a Merc I use between SS and Elms occasionally. ......................... vet wv northernsummer1,92,1 Posted Dec 19, 2013, 12:29 am

*Boonwolf* Finger 3 Darkwind Guru Morgan Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,139 Joined: Mar 7, 2012 I used to use Flash cars a bunch stock suspension 25 unit tank 3.2L exposed. Low price and very forgiving when crashed, but may dance like the BPU. Has 20-25 open bulk (I forget for sure) but has range for SF or FL runs with full load. Will take off like a rocket. ......................... vet wv paintball paintladder ped1 race1 semiprocombat zom marshal pvp20,5,0 Posted Dec 19, 2013, 5:20 am

PvtParty Paceys Raiders Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 692 Joined: Aug 5, 2012 Carrier Vans are great.... as small storage units in camps (minus wheels and engine). Use them for driving/carrying cargo at your own risk! ......................... vet wv ss2fl67 pvp5 paintball pvp3 pvp2 Posted Dec 19, 2013, 9:07 am

Bolt Thrower Quantum Symphony Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: Sep 12, 2013 I really want to like the Flash, but it always dances on me at a bad time. When I get a real driver, I may see if I can put one to better use. ......................... vet wv northernsummer1,92,1 Posted Dec 19, 2013, 8:34 pm

PA Racers PA Racers Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 1,005 Joined: Feb 11, 2010 I prefer a marley to a flash myself. Ran one w/no weapons on it from FL to BL long time ago. Had no tires left when I arrived, but made it. As for Voy's being garbge, I have to disagree. I've run 3.2L B-armor voy's all over evan, only got jacked once that I can remember, in an ambush on fingers map. ......................... vet wv ww northernsummer gwextrav gateautumn raceL1 race1 elmsautumn deathrceL1 e2g santa1 paintladder paintball pvp1 pvp4 pvp3 deathrce1 pvp2 combat1 circuit2 circuit3 circuit1 pvp528,161,23 Posted Dec 19, 2013, 10:07 pm

Krakhedd FAQ Crew Autodueller Morgan Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 351 Joined: Aug 19, 2012 I ran A armored V8 Voys, only times I got caught were due to my own miscalculations/mistakes and I got out of some incredibly difficult ambush spawn w/ them too. I hear 4L Voys are great too but I'd rather save the weight and of course the exposed engine by running a V8. Regular 3.2 should work great, too. EDIT: Cargo vans and box vans have never gotten me anything but killed. I will loot them but will never, ever drive them if I can avoid it. ......................... vet wv raceL1 pvp3 paintball9,2,9 Posted Dec 19, 2013, 10:31 pm Last edited Dec 19, 2013, 10:36 pm by Krakhedd

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 voys are great. Some of mine are 16 years old and still going strong. 4L or v8. Can get caught on rough terrain, but Ive also taken those things in the roughest terrain evan has to offer. Great for ped scouting. I took a van from elms to BL for Arizona once, then I find out she wanted a hood ornament, heh, coulda used a voy. Other than that, Vans can carry lots of stuff, they are good at it. Use them for that and you will be happy. Any cargo vehicle should be guarded, well. Balistics carrier, great. Holds lots of bullet shields, ahh spare drivers too. I'm sure JS can tell you all about a legendary carrier van, he probably uses it to hold his legendary spatulas. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Dec 19, 2013, 10:44 pm Last edited Dec 19, 2013, 10:45 pm by *Bastille*

Bolt Thrower Quantum Symphony Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: Sep 12, 2013 Since my best courier strategy has been to run like h3ll, i will stay away from vans. As for small cars, I like the handling on the Cadrona best (at least in races), but have not taken one in the wild yet. I will look at the Marleys more. ......................... vet wv northernsummer1,92,1 Posted Dec 19, 2013, 11:17 pm

*Maxxed* [v]@Xx3D []ut Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 961 Joined: May 20, 2010 I use my carrier vans with A-armour and a 3l rotary or V8 usually as a support vehicle or lootmobile and very very rarely as a courier(usually as a one-way hauler to camp to be broken down on arrival) and with this fitout they are still a very very bad idea! Use a boxvan instead it's a much more stylish way to die and they look more like a mausoleum when you've...er...finished using them.... ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp5 pvp20,0,1 Posted Dec 20, 2013, 11:16 am Last edited Dec 20, 2013, 12:53 pm by Maxxed

*Maxxed* [v]@Xx3D []ut Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 961 Joined: May 20, 2010 Bolt Thrower said: As for small cars, I like the handling on the Cadrona best (at least in races), but have not taken one in the wild yet.  I will look at the Marleys more. If you like Cadronas (or Caddies as I call 'em) I would suggest a sonic, whilst they are light and get knocked around like a ping-pong ball they are fairly tough. The two NPC builds you find in the wild have RL and HMG but I would not suggest either of these as they require a 1L engine to allow them to have reloads(the NPC ones dont pack reloads) so if you are going to run them as a 1 seater i would suggest going with an MMG, with a 1.2L engine you get a single reload. If you want to run them as a 2 seater you will have to choose a 20 bulk weapon - I would suggest a GG. As I am a bit of a hoarder and have a soft spot for compacts i have half a dozen and I would be happy to sell one to you for $7...if you are interested send me a PM and I'll list one for you. It's been a while since we did an all compact scout...keen fellaz? *Looks around for that bugnutz crazy Ninjamonkey* ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp5 pvp20,0,1 Posted Dec 20, 2013, 12:52 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 twin HRR ftw! ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Dec 20, 2013, 1:38 pm

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