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What is the best escort vehicle for Noobs?, The best escort for noobs

*SmokeyKilla* The Wolf Spiders Racer Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 224 Joined: Nov 1, 2013 In my opinion besides the standard Biter chassis arguably one of the best escorts I have also found is a mercenary chassis with a 2l and 2 HMG, 4 HMG reloads, 2 gangers and a 10 unit fuel tank for a total CR of 130. These chassis are easy to find and are fairly tough armour wise. The only downside with mercenarys is the poor turning circle and they are somewhat slow with a 2l. However with 3 or 4 of these babies escorting your truck, they will quickly decimate most NPC encounters. You can eliminate somewhat, the poor turning circle by staggering your escorts and with 4 reloads you will have enough ammo for numerous encounters between towns. You can always add a Biter chassis {phoenix chassis a 3.2 l engine one MG and a MMG ,2 reloads of MMG and 1 of MG, and 2 gangers } just to help out as a quick little backup. With only a CR of 114 these Biter chassis are sure worth a go. Remember with noob gangers you really should only be using MG MMG or HMG period. Weapons like RL's only have 10 shots and dont give as good a bonus for sustained fire or targeting like ballistic weapons. GG will train up your characters skill quickly but with noob gangers its like bringing a knife to a gunfight. A MG is way better to use as it gives a better recoil advantage and could possibly turn or turtle a car your aiming at, especially smaller cars which are maneuvering. Save you GG for group scouts where you have some experienced backup. MG= machine gun MMG=medium machine gun HMG=Heavy machine gun CR= combat rating GG= gatling gun RL=rocket launcher You can use Apache or Landrunner chassis as escorts however I do not recommend this with a noob gang, as their CR will determine what NPC,s you face and I would put off using these chassis until you have some experienced gangers with a couple of specs under their belt. Always remember the lower CR you have the lower CR the NPC gang will have. Happy Hunting ......................... vet wv marshal paintball semiprocombat pvp5 Posted Jun 4, 2014, 5:10 am

PvtParty Paceys Raiders Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 692 Joined: Aug 5, 2012 Something that you seem to have missed completely, and I would say is quite important - dropped weapons. With a truck convoy, you don't want to be engaging any attackers. Laying down a carpet of mines and flaming oil is the best way to slow/deter following vehicles.  While they're dealing with your presents, you scarper! ......................... vet wv ss2fl67 pvp5 paintball pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jun 4, 2014, 10:15 am

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 To Smoky- Newer people, doing escort or convoy runs? I would advise learning your roads first. Do mail runs... Learn your maps, know the spawns. IMHO As for Escort vehicles... Merc is the poor man's tank. Consider why it's highly favored in SCL. Durable, maneuverable, low cr, highly stable, lots of space for guns and ammo. Also just about anything with a 2L.. most likely will not be that maneuverable, but a Merc does wonders with a 2.5L or 3.2L As for the topic of dropped weapons... (Yeah PvT, looking in your direction...) YES! Traders and Couriers should be running. FOJ and a HMG or MMG... beautiful setup for beginning trade runs.. and NG's are even better if you can get them. Dual Rear MMG's... also very effective.. or MMG and Car Rifle. (This weapon is very maligned and underrated) Make sure you have provisions for ammo, weather it is in the escort vehicle directly, or the extra magazines are in the courier, make sure to have them. ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted Jun 4, 2014, 1:14 pm

musashi_san sunset samurai Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 1,118 Joined: May 7, 2012 when i started doing this i found that a 5l or better box van with rear hmg/foj and a v8 muscle car with rear spikes/oil as a chase car work great. use the muscle car to run around and distract, and lay down a lot of drops. in a stormer, for example, you have room for 2 reloads each as well... just one driver, empty both, and run, reload in next encounter. also works with a v8 carrier van, make sure to pack a few hmg/foj reloads, and take a drive and gunner in the van, so you can reload while moving... also used to sometimes use a second chase car with a good gunner and rear cr, (i think i had a 5l eaton or some such)... yes cr is great for this, great range, and with rear mounts it's relatively easy to kill the engine or light what's chasing you on fire, or both. ......................... vet wv pvp4 pvp2 pvp1 Posted Jun 4, 2014, 3:39 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Merc with twin HMG front are nice but put a 3.2L or 3L Rot in them and only carry 2 reloads and less fuel. Put reloads and Fuel in a dedicated "Tender" vehicle such as a Motorhome or a Van or even a Pickup With a 2L in a merc I can see you already plan to fight the encounters rather than try to run so here is another idea you might not have tried: Put only 5 armor and a 1L engine in what you are escorting. Leave a seat empty in an escort vehicle for every cargo or Tender vehicle. When you have an encounter, exit the cargo vehicles and board the combat cars, then continue with the fight. The AI wont intentionally shoot empty cars (they want whats in them so why break it?) so as long as you don't lose the fight, you can re-allocate drivers during the loot screen and reboard your abandon vehicles. This reduces fuel consumption due to less weight in the cargo armoring, plus extra cargo space running only a 1L. (not much but hey... WTH right?) It also maximizes the efficiency of a small gang by not having to crew ALL cars during a fight. But still, I agree with Necro on learning the roads. Don't try an escort until you are able to successfully flee a BL ambush in a Hearse with 4 blown tires! lol! Or as me and my brother discovered... Be able to fight 7 vs 17... (I think our worst escort fight was 9 vs 23) ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Jun 4, 2014, 10:11 pm

Bolt Thrower Quantum Symphony Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: Sep 12, 2013 StCrispin said: Merc with twin HMG front are nice but put a 3.2L or 3L Rot in them and only carry 2 reloads and less fuel. Put reloads and Fuel in a dedicated "Tender" vehicle such as a Motorhome or a Van or even a Pickup With a 2L in a merc I can see you already plan to fight the encounters rather than try to run so here is another idea you might not have tried: Put only 5 armor and a 1L engine in what you are escorting.  Leave a seat empty in an escort vehicle for every cargo or Tender vehicle.  When you have an encounter, exit the cargo vehicles and board the combat cars, then continue with the fight.  The AI wont intentionally shoot empty cars (they want whats in them so why break it?) so as long as you don't lose the fight, you can re-allocate drivers during the loot screen and reboard your abandon vehicles.  This reduces fuel consumption due to less weight in the cargo armoring, plus extra cargo space running only a 1L. (not much but hey... WTH right?)  It also maximizes the efficiency of a small gang by not having to crew ALL cars during a fight. But still, I agree with Necro on learning the roads.  Don't try an escort until you are able to successfully flee a BL ambush in a Hearse with 4 blown tires!  lol!  Or as me and my brother discovered...  Be able to fight 7 vs 17...  (I think our worst escort fight was 9 vs 23) I was under the impression that you did not control the escorted cars during an escort mission. ......................... vet wv northernsummer1,92,1 Posted Jun 4, 2014, 10:15 pm

musashi_san sunset samurai Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 1,118 Joined: May 7, 2012 i think we thought this was about escorting your own cargo cars. if you mean escort missions, i cannot comment as i've never done one. seems like a cluster to me, keeping the ai alive? anyway i do enough "babysitting" in rl... ......................... vet wv pvp4 pvp2 pvp1 Posted Jun 5, 2014, 2:59 am Last edited Jun 5, 2014, 3:07 am by musashi_san

Bolt Thrower Quantum Symphony Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: Sep 12, 2013 My bad. I got around this by hiring and building a stable in town. Moving slow, unwieldy vehicles with low skilled gang members seems like a bad idea to me. ......................... vet wv northernsummer1,92,1 Posted Jun 5, 2014, 3:11 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 musashi_san said: i think we thought this was about escorting your own cargo cars. if you mean escort missions, i cannot comment as i've never done one. seems like a cluster to me, keeping the ai alive? anyway i do enough "babysitting" in rl... They are the most fun you can have PvE in this game. Keeping them alive is the whole challenge and they are great at finding new and interesting ways to stuff you up and leave you hanging just when you thought you could escape (or at least get them clear of danger) even when manually controlling them. Great fun. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jun 5, 2014, 6:53 am

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 The powers that be, never give me "escort missions" anymore.... They are under the impression that Blood and Iron is just here to kill everything... Oh, wait..... they are... nevermind ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted Jun 5, 2014, 1:32 pm Last edited Jun 5, 2014, 1:32 pm by Necrotech

*Brunwulf* Wulf Guard Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 1,299 Joined: May 17, 2012 *Bastille* said: musashi_san said: i think we thought this was about escorting your own cargo cars. if you mean escort missions, i cannot comment as i've never done one. seems like a cluster to me, keeping the ai alive? anyway i do enough "babysitting" in rl... They are the most fun you can have PvE in this game. Keeping them alive is the whole challenge and they are great at finding new and interesting ways to stuff you up and leave you hanging just when you thought you could escape (or at least get them clear of danger) even when manually controlling them. Great fun. Yeah, escort missions are very fun! By fun, I mean infuriatingly random! and hence entertaining and satisfying on completion!  ......................... vet ww wv e2g gwextrav sssc northernsummer gateautumn deathrce1 marshal race1 raceL1 combat1 pvp5 pvp4 pvp3 pvp20,1,0 Posted Jun 5, 2014, 2:09 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 haha, yup, exactamundo  Necrotech said: The powers that be, never give me "escort missions" anymore.... They are under the impression that Blood and Iron is just here to kill everything... Oh, wait..... they are... nevermind yeah, I don't get them anymore either. But in my case its not that Im a sadomasochistic sociopath, Im just not that well known. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jun 6, 2014, 1:20 am

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 *Bastille* said: yeah, I don't get them anymore either. But in my case its not that Im a sadomasochistic sociopath, Im just not that well known. Actually it is because you are not very successful at it.... ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted Jun 6, 2014, 3:17 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 bah, I used to run 10 car escorts. Only ever lost 3 cars total, eva (ok, maybe 4), out of about 100+ :smugface: ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jun 6, 2014, 6:04 am

Necrotech Vendetta Inc. Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: Jul 18, 2011 *Bastille* said: bah, I used to run 10 car escorts. Only ever lost 3 cars total, eva (ok, maybe 4), out of about 100+ :smugface: Meant the killing part..... ......................... vet wv santa1 deathrceL1 pvp4 gwped raceL1 combatL1 paintladder pvp3 ped2 pvp5 semiprocombat circuit2 pvp1 pvp2 slay2013 gwextrav triangle1 Posted Jun 6, 2014, 2:58 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 I used to fantasize about someone trying to intercept me while escorting 6 npc vehicles...to be used as suicidal fodder. Of course it never happened. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Jun 6, 2014, 6:08 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 I didn't think you could intercept these. Can you? And yeah, Im definitely not that dedicated on the killing part. Really it just takes some dedicated play. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Jun 7, 2014, 6:17 am

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 I been doing a lot of escort missions lately. I run my cars one way and the escorted vehicles the opposite direction. my cars run out and escape, which means the ones chasing me are too far from the traders and auto escape, the ones remaining are too few and they want to escape, event over. I never fired a shot. easy peasy ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Jun 7, 2014, 3:15 pm

*DoubleTap* The Ghosts Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 895 Joined: Jul 13, 2007 Grimm Sykes said: I been doing a lot of escort missions lately. I run my cars one way and the escorted vehicles the opposite direction. my cars run out and escape, which means the ones chasing me are too far from the traders and auto escape, the ones remaining are too few and they want to escape, event over. I never fired a shot. easy peasy Do you consider that an exploit? ......................... vet marshal wv Posted Jun 8, 2014, 5:00 am

*SmokeyKilla* The Wolf Spiders Racer Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 224 Joined: Nov 1, 2013 All good points guys, its great to see that everyone has different ideas and varied methods of carrying out these escorts. I spose thats one reason why I like DW there is more than one way to skin a cat . But last time I checked this is a car combat game why do missions/escorts and not fire off a shot? {or drop oil/mines/spikes} I had a scout trainer running and the pho turtled, luckily I was right beside a very steep hill i climbed the hill and both guys peppered the two cars with SMG with no risk to themselves and with easy top armour shots the combat was soon over. Im sure on scouts with a fast car and steep hills, I could use this everytime and win{target traders and if you dont get the right map truce} with no risk to my gangers or cars..........BORING. It defeats the purpose of the game, It takes away the challenge and the fun, so why do it? ......................... vet wv marshal paintball semiprocombat pvp5 Posted Jun 8, 2014, 7:27 am

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