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Bulk Problem Not Fixed

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 The glitch in Bulk Calculation and Cargo Space is still manifesting. In this case, I loaded a Pickup and on the screen where you load a driver it says it has -1 bulk free.  It has a drop down to add driver but if I try adding a driver it says "Not enough room for driver" On the screen for loading cargo it still shows 20 Bulk available. I have not added it up myself to see if the numbers match with the vehicles available space.  Im guessing its really overloaded and at -1 but I don't know why its saying 20 free on one page and -1 on the other - ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Nov 5, 2014, 10:20 pm Last edited Nov 5, 2014, 10:21 pm by *StCrispin*

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Additionally, when I later removed 20 Bulk, one screen read 19 and the other 40 free. the I took out 1 more expecting it to read 20 and 41. however it said 20 / 40 (didn't count it on the one) I then Loaded a Driver. the 20 screen (Normal View) did not change and stayed at 20 and the screen that said 40 became 20. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Nov 5, 2014, 10:26 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Another PU I was loading in the same squad said: Normal View: Bulk Available: -19 Cargo View: Bulk Available: 2 Driver can not be loaded Upon removing cargo I ended up with 20 and 41 on the 2 screens. Loading a driver made this 20 and 21. Again "Normal View did not remove the bulk for the driver but the cargo screen did. I then Loaded 20 points of cargo. (1EP, 1 Standard Tire and 1 Rifle ammo) the screens calculated it as such: Normal View: 20-20=0 (Correct) Cargo View: 21-20=2 (Incorrect!) This is all pretty confusing and for an inexperienced player could lead to frustration and anger. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Nov 5, 2014, 10:34 pm Last edited Nov 5, 2014, 10:35 pm by *StCrispin*

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 There is something really screwy in the database at the moment. The bulk issues and the transmutation of substances being 2. Can't help feeling a review of the event ids and vehicle ids is a big overdue. I'm guessing Sam is rather busy with something but these seem pretty well documented now. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 5, 2014, 10:43 pm

PvtParty Paceys Raiders Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 692 Joined: Aug 5, 2012 Yeah, I've been seeing issues when changing vehicle weapon load-outs. I'm guessing some part of the calculation isn't taking account of the driver allocation. ......................... vet wv ss2fl67 pvp5 paintball pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 6, 2014, 12:00 am

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 yup, still a issue, Check out this phoenix with 2 MG, 4L, 2 MG reloads, and still enough room for a driver and 2 gunners! ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Nov 7, 2014, 11:56 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 how to load crew without looking at the vehicle sheet? add cars to a squad till it loads in the squad, but is never viewed. then remove all the other cars from the squad and ask another player to load 3 crew in, bulk isn't recalculated (obviously) when anyone other then the vehicle owner looks at the vehicle on the website. Additionally doing it with the lobby features add additional quirks to toy with. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Nov 7, 2014, 11:58 pm Last edited Nov 7, 2014, 11:59 pm by Grimm Sykes

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 I have enough bugs with bulk VIEWING the car page, I don't need to use the method you are using to end up with errors. But both situation need fixed. It's frustrating and time consuming for a long time player, a new and skeptical player would just use it as wood on the fire to badmouth the game. ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Nov 8, 2014, 4:47 am

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 *StCrispin* said: I have enough bugs with bulk VIEWING the car page, I don't need to use the method you are using to end up with errors.  But both situation need fixed.  It's frustrating and time consuming for a long time player, a new and skeptical player would just use it as wood on the fire to badmouth the game. A long time experienced player may do it as well. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Nov 8, 2014, 6:05 am

*Boonwolf* Finger 3 Darkwind Guru Morgan Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,139 Joined: Mar 7, 2012 Problem for all players other than Grimm's issues would be open bulk on load crew has 20 bulk subtracted and loading equipment is showing true bulk. kinda confusing at first. ......................... vet wv paintball paintladder ped1 race1 semiprocombat zom marshal pvp20,5,0 Posted Nov 8, 2014, 7:11 am

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 Also, when crews are pulled from cars the bulk is not updated. Like restore config on another car, or remove all crews from tavern. It seems that all these bulk issues are due to the same thing. available bulk of cars isn't queried until the user calls the information up. Some times this required 2 requests to get the correct information. Sometimes you can do all sorts of things without a query to the database at all. Another issue like this is how the character page doesnt properly show everyones activity, unless you click on every single gangers name and open up a window for each, then refresh the character page. I'm sure all of this was done to reduce server load. but if things have to be clicked on multiple times, wouldn't that mean it's creating additional server load? ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Nov 8, 2014, 2:10 pm Last edited Nov 8, 2014, 2:10 pm by Grimm Sykes

*Boonwolf* Finger 3 Darkwind Guru Morgan Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 1,139 Joined: Mar 7, 2012 Grimm Sykes said: Another issue like this is how the character page doesnt properly show everyones activity, unless you click on every single gangers name and open up a window for each, then refresh the character page. This has been going on from about the time scavs came online.  If you take a <100% ganger scouting when he/she returns to town it reflects the activity level from the event.  That being 100% of whatever % they were before event started. ......................... vet wv paintball paintladder ped1 race1 semiprocombat zom marshal pvp20,5,0 Posted Nov 9, 2014, 4:06 am

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 *Boonwolf* said: Grimm Sykes said: Another issue like this is how the character page doesnt properly show everyones activity, unless you click on every single gangers name and open up a window for each, then refresh the character page. This has been going on from about the time scavs came online.  If you take a <100% ganger scouting when he/she returns to town it reflects the activity level from the event.  That being 100% of whatever % they were before event started. That has been happening since I joined the game in 2007 ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 9, 2014, 11:07 am

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 same with camp bulk ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Nov 10, 2014, 10:42 am

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 Now, no car shows bulk right when you click on add remove any component. it's not taking off bulk for the driver, so if you set up a car and it shows 40 bulk free, when you go to load crews, it says only 20 bulk free, all cars are 20 bulk off in the install windows. As illustrated in the screenshots above. I really don't understand why this is taking weeks to get fixed. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Nov 19, 2014, 3:01 pm Last edited Nov 19, 2014, 3:03 pm by Grimm Sykes

Ivan Kerensky Les Loups Gris Autodueller Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: Mar 1, 2008 Grimm Sykes said: yup, still a issue, Check out this phoenix with 2 MG, 4L, 2 MG reloads, and still enough room for a driver and 2 gunners! I think there the bug is caused by the unspecified driver line. On this page I noticed the driver space is never taken into account while it is on the other vehicule page. ......................... vet wv Posted Nov 19, 2014, 3:54 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 it used to be taken into account. but something has been changed and now its glitched ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Nov 19, 2014, 11:33 pm

*Maxxed* [v]@Xx3D []ut Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 961 Joined: May 20, 2010 BUMP - Bulk still doing weird things...seems to keep adding 20 free bulk when driver is removed. ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp5 pvp20,0,1 Posted Nov 21, 2014, 8:52 am

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 seems to be sams fix for bulk recalculations is incomplete too little, too late ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Nov 21, 2014, 2:14 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 Woohoo now I got 8 wheels too ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Nov 24, 2014, 8:00 pm

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