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Bulk Problem Not Fixed

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 I've had an 8 tyre lorry for years. Never driven it... Always wondered whether it would take equal damage to both tyres on each wheel at the same rate... And what the effect of a blowout on one tyre would be? ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 24, 2014, 8:06 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 this is not a trick, heres a link to see for yourself http://www.dark-wind.com/vehicle.php?id=762098 ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Nov 24, 2014, 8:06 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 goat starer said: I've had an 8 tyre lorry for years. Never driven it... Always wondered whether it would take equal damage to both tyres on each wheel at the same rate... And what the effect of a blowout on one tyre would be? I thought you said these things only happen to me, I don't feel special anymore  ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Nov 24, 2014, 8:16 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,907 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 I think I said that when the things you see happen to other people they tell you That lorry is one of the oldest vehicle ids in the game. So it's either a fixed problem that has recurred or a problem that is very intermittent. Either way it may not be much of a problem at all. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Nov 24, 2014, 10:02 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 I'll let you know how scouting with it goes. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Nov 25, 2014, 12:03 am

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 it handles recoil better and has much better traction, i could drive over terrain that normally would cause a vehicle such as an apache to slide sideways ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Dec 3, 2014, 8:57 pm

Tallus Fatalis Foedi Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 175 Joined: Aug 30, 2014 "Shhhh, everybody else will want one!" A charming bug. ......................... vet wv ped2 Posted Dec 4, 2014, 3:55 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 now it's got 16 wheels http://www.dark-wind.com/vehicle.php?id=776471 ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Jan 14, 2015, 3:24 pm

PvtParty Paceys Raiders Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 692 Joined: Aug 5, 2012 Is that a new way of transporting tyres around Evan? ......................... vet wv ss2fl67 pvp5 paintball pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jan 14, 2015, 5:24 pm

Bill Butcher Cutting The Butchers of Boozetown Racer Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: Jun 15, 2014 I just wonder how tire damage is handled when driving over rough terrain. Probably all the extras are tied to the right rear tire and they all take damage when that one does but you never know. ......................... vet wv Posted Jan 14, 2015, 6:41 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 well, it's just gotten weirder... bought an apache in badlands it has 88 OR tires on it, 5 HMG facing front, 1 HFT facing front, 3.2L engine, 27 unit fuel tank, -97 bulk available, 1120 CR (oh and another was 22 OR tires, 22 RE tires, and 44 STD tires on the same car.) and it gets weirder.. not posting any more of them unless i see something insanely cool like a motorhome with 12 GG on the front and 144 tires. I guess it's obvious why all the tires are disappearing in evan now. Don't bother fixing this one, it should be fun to see how they play out in combat. I mean if i send out a single apache with 1120 CR will it spawn a FE? ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Jan 15, 2015, 6:33 am Last edited Jan 15, 2015, 6:35 am by Grimm Sykes

PvtParty Paceys Raiders Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 692 Joined: Aug 5, 2012 How many crew can you get in to fire all those front weapons? ......................... vet wv ss2fl67 pvp5 paintball pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jan 15, 2015, 1:24 pm

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 theres a sequence of actions in game to assign multiple weapons to fire with only 1 crewman, and then you can get that crewman out, leaving all weapons on repeat fire and firing, from a unoccupied vehicle. I reported this bug as well and how to reproduce it and was called a liar, so it hasn't been dealt with, and then my post was deleted. Posting about bugs only brings humor to the forums, I guess that's why Sam quit reading any bug threads that I post to. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Jan 15, 2015, 6:55 pm Last edited Jan 15, 2015, 6:59 pm by Grimm Sykes

*SmokeyKilla* The Wolf Spiders Racer Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 224 Joined: Nov 1, 2013 have you guys read the rules on bugs, exploits and loopholes? ......................... vet wv marshal paintball semiprocombat pvp5 Posted Jan 15, 2015, 8:07 pm

Bill Butcher Cutting The Butchers of Boozetown Racer Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: Jun 15, 2014 *SmokeyKilla* said: have you guys read the rules on bugs, exploits and loopholes? Actually, I have not. Would you please direct me to those rules. Thanks! ......................... vet wv Posted Jan 15, 2015, 9:11 pm

*SmokeyKilla* The Wolf Spiders Racer Badlands Truckstop Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 224 Joined: Nov 1, 2013 Copied from Game info, FAQ What about Exploits, Bug and Loopholes? Bug abuse, exploits and loopholes disrupt the game and damage the enjoyment of the game for everyone. Any effort to employ game bugs, exploits, loopholes, circumvent restrictions on game play or otherwise use non-game features and other programs for personal gain is not allowed. You are required to inform a Marshal and/or Sam through a private message if you find or witness another player abusing these undocumented/unintended features and should NOT discuss your findings with other players nor post any information about what you found or witnessed on the public forums, including the bugs forum. If you are caught using any bug, exploit, loophole or make any attempt to circumvent restrictions on game play for personal gain and fail to report it, sanctions may be applied to your account, up to and including being banned from the game. Please note that all financial actions and many other key activities are logged in your gang's "Recent Activities" record, so you will be unable to hide illegal activity from the developers. ......................... vet wv marshal paintball semiprocombat pvp5 Posted Jan 15, 2015, 11:23 pm

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 *SmokeyKilla* said: have you guys read the rules on bugs, exploits and loopholes? I seem to remember something from a year or more ago where Sam said to report the bug to him, wait to see if he fixes it, then remind him in case he forgot, but not to keep harping on it BECAUSE: if he looks at it and chooses NOT to fix it, he doesn't consider it a "game changer" bug. From this a lot of long time players have adopted a thought process of "find bug, report bug, remind Sam, if bug not fixed wishing 60 days or if someone claims it isn't a game breaker then display the bug so that the people who say it isn't a bug change their minds and cry to Sam about it" Why?  Because bugs get fixed if people whine and cry about someone else benefitting (or not) from them.  But until they think someone is getting something more than they are, no one cares.  It's one of those entitlement things.  People can't stomach someone else getting something that they don't have.  But if a bug causes someone's car to light on fire and explode on the same turn, or their Buzzer gets killed by a submerged enemy, or causes a ganger with an empty crossbow to shoot their Gang leader in the brain and kill him, they just tell you "it's the pockylips" (unless it happened to them) ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Jan 16, 2015, 1:12 am

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 A friendly reminder here. I'm doing NOTHING to cause this to happen. There is no grand plan to exploit it, and since i'm not doing anything to cause it to happen, i can't even start to guess how to reproduce it. As goat mentioned, He has a lorry with 8 wheels and has for many many years. Nothign was done about it either, so this is nothing new. Since i can't explain how to replicate it, i'm not telling anyone how to perform any sort of exploit around the bug. And I asked before, and never got a satisfactory answer, whats the purpose of a bugs forum, when it's not to discuss bugs and theres no rule book to compare things to with, to really know what all is and isnt supposed to happen, compared to what actually does and does not happen. Smokey, by what it sounds lie your trying to say, I've broken the terms of service by mentioning that I have a car with over 8 wheels? Or are you suggesting that StCrispin has broken the rules by posting a screenshot of his findings and starting this thread over 2 months ago? If the ladder, your a bit late... ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Jan 16, 2015, 2:34 am Last edited Jan 16, 2015, 2:41 am by Grimm Sykes

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 Oh wait, I see, the bugs forums should be empty so everything looks like it's working as intended. ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Jan 16, 2015, 2:44 am

*StCrispin* Beasts of the Lair Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,657 Joined: Feb 13, 2012 Grimm Sykes said: I asked before, and never got a satisfactory answer, whats the purpose of a bugs forum, when it's not to discuss bugs. Smokey, by what it sounds like your trying to say, I've broken the terms of service by mentioning that I have a car with over 8 wheels? Or are you suggesting that StCrispin has broken the rules by posting a screenshot of his findings and starting this thread over 2 months ago? If the latter, your a bit late... I do believe Sam himself asked us to PUBLICLY list bugs a little before the Steam release. I remember him doing this to consolidate the information so he wasn't getting 10 different people telling him about the same bug.  Which makes sense. Additionally he stated that we were all adult enough to not take a bug from the list and exploit.  Most of what people cry exploit over doesn't "Benefit" the alleged exploiter in any way that falls under the definition for an exploit. Something about money or gains outside the realm of fair play or some such. (1) Sam has not yet told us to STOP listing these bugs in the manner he requested (Publicly and consolidated) so I can only assume the last instructions are still the current standing orders.  Though I could be mistaken... (2) Sam stated he had faith that we were all adult enough not to abuse said publicly discussed bugs. (3) Sam stated any exploiting of publicly listed bugs would carry a greater penalty than exploited "secret" bugs so if we weren't adult enough to abstain form abusing the bug we could expect him to get mad. (4) Abuse meant harming others or using the bug for gain.  It did not include "testing" to give him a better understanding of the bug. ---An example for #4: Grim tests out his 12 GG vehicle in a scout to see if all 12 GGs get to shoot = NOT abuse.  However, running that same 12 GG vehicle more than twice or possibly 3 times to confirm it is a repeatable error, and amassing a lot of money from this = Probably Abuse.  Even if he gave all the loot away it could be abuse because then a bunch of noobs with no money get free cars... ......................... vet wv gwped paintladder paintball marshal raceL10,1,0 Posted Jan 16, 2015, 7:01 am

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