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TOWN HALL MEETING 3 MAY 2020

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,513 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 *sam* said: ShawnFireDragon said: This is the greatest take on the incorporating Motorcycles and making the Cycle skill useful and relevant. Super Ideas here from Wuulf !!! Everyone please take note and use your voice. Agreed, this is a good way of looking at it. Adding that speed and acceleration bonus probably needs some nerfs alongside it though.. much lower armour being the obvious way. I dunno, the suggestions wuulf make should go a long way to lots of great changes. If... it turns out to be overkill then armour toughness can be looked at? I really like Wuulfs stuff all round. Awesome ideas. ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,1 Posted Apr 25, 2020, 4:10 am

Hati Murphys Mercs Racer Merchants Faction Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: Jan 21, 2009 Ok so reading the temperature in the room Overall skill caps right out, compromise being more Amateur Events geared toward Newbies so they have a chance to learn the tracks and arenas Cyclist/Minicar/Subcompact, the question is do we want to gain the specs by using subcompacts. IF Sam would consider Atvs feasible, then we might look at that but the question to the community is should we make this skill apply only to compacts for the purpose of gaining the specs? Simple yes or no. Chaos Canyon can stay where it is. Upon thinking about it and discussion it's good training and the one map that has training for southern maps Splitting cargo seems like its a if Sam can do it thing but doesn't really effect the community at large. The reasoning behind this change other than accessibility to narrative missions and courier runs is in Morgan you have a 300 bulk vehicle limit and it can spawn 500 bulk missions. So either we change the courier spawns in Morgan or figure out how to split cargo down thoughts? One of the narrative missions requires 150 bulk vehicle which for a new player who doesn't have a BPU means an Estate. I've done it and it sucks. Environmental changes will have to be brought to Sam's attention but I agree if we could tone down the colors on Chaos and turn the snow down that would be good. I have been asked to bring up adding bulk to the 57 chassis what do you think? To make it usable. Please, please if you have other chassis changes suggest them in suggestions. Feel free to continue the discussions. ......................... vet wv Posted Apr 25, 2020, 7:14 am Last edited Apr 25, 2020, 7:16 am by Hati

lostsoul214 Rats of the Sand Pedestrian Renegade Group: Subscribers Posts: 22 Joined: Feb 26, 2009 I've thought about lot's of these things. Of coarse the 57 needs some bulk. Thanks. It also needs to be able to hold a bigger engine. I very much dislike Chaos Canyon, but I agree that it is in a good spot. It doesn't overly spawn anyways, so it is a good place for new people to learn. The colors don't bother me nor does the snow. I mean, Morgan's suppose to be the hardest place isn't it? I use the cyclist skill for an extra spec. It getting change is ok by me. I'm not sure I'd ever put an exposed ganger in a ride anyways. Unless Sam decided to put the cobra back in the game. I'd drive that. Skill capping all of SS would help to get people to move, but it also may make some people leave. The amateur events is the better option here I think. ......................... vet wv northernsummer ped10,10,0 Posted Apr 25, 2020, 7:24 pm

Tez Blood Roses Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 579 Joined: Sep 13, 2009 The 57 is a small model. I have no idea what work would involve to expand it a little but I've always thought the Sedan class needs something rare with 220 bulk. Like an Osprey but much slower, a bit stronger and space for at least a 5L V8 under the hood. ......................... vet wv combat1 pvp3 pvp51,4,0 Posted Apr 25, 2020, 7:31 pm

*Longo* Longos Merry Men Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 6,659 Joined: Dec 15, 2007 Tez said: I've always thought the Sedan class needs something rare with 220 bulk. Like an Osprey but much slower, a bit stronger and space for at least a 5L V8 under the hood. Isn’t this the Flail already ? ......................... vet combatL1 ped1 paintladder semiprocombat ped2 wv pvp4 pvp1 gwped paintball pvp3 pvp5 slay2013 marshal circuit2 combat1 e2g raceL1 gwextrav gateautumn pvp2 triangle1 Posted Apr 25, 2020, 7:39 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Revert mini -race leagues (Elms Classic and Gateway Autumn Extravaganza) to 4 single events(20 points each), just like SS Winter warm up. Leave the DR leagues as is. You can always join a DR and take out competition (like coe). Racing needs to have all players competing in the same race. We have a 5 way - bogus tie for Elms classic right now. That's not right. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Apr 25, 2020, 7:39 pm

PA Racers PA Racers Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 1,008 Joined: Feb 11, 2010 Joel Autobaun said: Revert mini -race leagues (Elms Classic and Gateway Autumn Extravaganza) to 4 single events(20 points each), just like SS Winter warm up. Leave the DR leagues as is.  You can always join a DR and take out competition (like coe).  Racing needs to have all players competing in the same race.  We have a 5 way - bogus tie for Elms classic right now.  That's not right. just as I predicted when this was changed! ......................... vet wv ww northernsummer gwextrav gateautumn raceL1 race1 elmsautumn deathrceL1 e2g santa1 paintladder paintball pvp1 pvp4 pvp3 deathrce1 pvp2 combat1 circuit2 circuit3 circuit1 pvp528,161,23 Posted Apr 25, 2020, 8:17 pm

Hati Murphys Mercs Racer Merchants Faction Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: Jan 21, 2009 Be sure to bring that up at the meeting. I'm not a racer but I can get the frustration ......................... vet wv Posted Apr 25, 2020, 8:52 pm

Dropdeadfred Main Street Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Subscribers Posts: 59 Joined: Dec 15, 2015 Hati said: Cyclist/Minicar/Subcompact, the question is do we want to gain the specs by using subcompacts. IF Sam would consider Atvs feasible, then we might look at that but the question to the community is should we make this skill apply only to compacts for the purpose of gaining the specs? Simple yes or no. Splitting cargo seems like its a if Sam can do it thing but doesn't really effect the community at large. The reasoning behind this change other than accessibility to narrative missions and courier runs is in Morgan you have a 300 bulk vehicle limit and it can spawn 500 bulk missions. So either we change the courier spawns in Morgan or figure out how to split cargo down thoughts? One of the narrative missions requires 150 bulk vehicle which for a new player who doesn't have a BPU means an Estate. I've done it and it sucks. Minicar spec - If the only thing that happens is that it becomes another source for all of the Driver specs, but require the smaller car chassis' to be driven to get skill, it's still just Driver2.  I go back to my earlier thought of earning Offensive Driver while driving a minicar...it hardly makes sense. It having it's own set of specs that only affect the smaller cars would be a very welcome change.  I really liked the earlier persons idea of it being used as a spotter vehicle. Narrative Missions - Spawning a 500 bulk mission in a town where you can only have 300 bulk cars is a pretty obvious problem and should probably be fixed.  At the same time, should Narrative Missions be immediately available to a new player when courier missions already exist?  If the answer is yes, the answer is probably creating Narrative Missions with requirements that a new player can reasonably do rather than changing the existing system. Courier Missions - You choose the size of the courier package when you accept the mission.  It's completely on the player, thus the packages can already be broken up in size.  No change here, imho. ......................... vet wv ped1 paintball0,1,0 Posted Apr 26, 2020, 4:47 am

Manfred VonRichthofen Flying Froggies Sunday Driver Civs Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 97 Joined: Oct 13, 2012 Hey, Lost Canyon : I like this map where it is, the difficulty is not that high and a good ratio, but yeah it really needs graphic adjustments on the brighness level. The tire damage seems a bit random to me, or maybe I never really understood it... as it maye be the first "non noob" map, yes, it could benefit from more explanation of its features. Cycling : I really don't want to have another driver skill for cars... I absolutly don't want to check each time I use a car wich skill I need, Driver or Light Car Driver. I absolutly don't want to retrain another serie of drivers, or boost the gang member capacity if you do... If this skill is ever used, I prefer a complete new design or nothing, I don't like fast tweaks. So create bikes with sidecars, or even Trikes. Most of you played Car Wars so you all remember Trikes were a thing, where bikes were dead meat. Finally, please consider adding my test track idea, I made a thread just below, few days ago Thanks ......................... vet wv race1 paintball deathrce1 Posted Apr 26, 2020, 10:43 am

ShawnFireDragon ScavGhost Autodueller Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 309 Joined: Aug 29, 2017 rockinrams said: isnt it already a coffin with its current speed / armor ratio?   I can see you doing great things with this brother. ......................... vet wv race1 semiprocombat e2g gwextrav gateautumn sssc raceL1 deathrceL1 combatL1 pvp4 pvp3 paintladder pvp10,1,0 Posted Apr 29, 2020, 3:06 am

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 PA Racers said: Joel Autobaun said: Revert mini -race leagues (Elms Classic and Gateway Autumn Extravaganza) to 4 single events(20 points each), just like SS Winter warm up. Leave the DR leagues as is.  You can always join a DR and take out competition (like coe).  Racing needs to have all players competing in the same race.  We have a 5 way - bogus tie for Elms classic right now.  That's not right. just as I predicted when this was changed! Well it didnt end up how.i suggested.  Frankly the times before were horrible.  Honestly how many people did you have racing against you on tues/wed/thurs.  Even when dw was light on players...they would show up for sswinter on the weekend. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Apr 29, 2020, 6:24 am

Hati Murphys Mercs Racer Merchants Faction Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: Jan 21, 2009 I will talk with X about getting this on the list ......................... vet wv Posted Apr 29, 2020, 6:58 am

Grimm Sykes Sand xbzyas Darkwind Guru Merchants Faction Group: Banned Posts: 1,372 Joined: Mar 14, 2010 i'm fine with chaos canyon where it is, but putting in a road that's easily seen and doesn't flip lorrys fire engines, and motorhomes would be awesome ......................... vet wv pvp5 pvp4 Posted Apr 29, 2020, 7:12 am Last edited Apr 29, 2020, 7:13 am by Grimm Sykes

Fealty Lost Slaughterhouse: Bloody Remains Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Subscribers Posts: 1,258 Joined: Jan 6, 2009 The Flash is definitely a compact. It's basically a Miata (MX-5) or like my VW Eos. I like the idea of smaller, faster cars being that: faster (wt v HP) and definitely harder to hit. Ever gone skeet shooting? Same concept except you don't know where the compact's going. Takes skill to hit something fast and small. And getting hit should be a bad thing in one. Ever fire a .308 round into the side of an abandoned Cavalier? ...like a hot knife through butter. So a skill made with perks for those crazed enough to voluntarily wander out in front of .50 machine guns and freaking "lazeers" would be perfect. Not exactly motorcycles (which requires oodles of sheer stupidity be applied) but still lets someone play the theme out. Make sure you have a good Recruiter. The map thing...meh. Unless you're a DW fanatic going south doesn't make sense, so whatever. SS everything should be Car Wars. There should be 'stepped' leagues, races of all kinds, REAL 'Amateur Nights' and gangers dedicated to them. They're not supposed to be for gaining experience before going out scouting: the entire idea is that these events were broadcast LIVE for entertainment (our DW coliseums) and people treated them like the NFL or the massive football leagues of Europe and points outside the U.S. They're supposed to be for elevating nobody newbs to superstar fame as they make their way through the amateur events, to sponsored leagues to superstardom...and not a one of them ever thinks about going out into the wastes and going scouting. They're looking to make the big bucks, get the (radio edit), the adoration and roar of the crowd who actually hate them for who they are (think Grimm' ) and the success they've achieved...but can't live without them. That would be a massive draw of new players. Start a rookie, become a pro'. And instead of hunting rares, you're handed one every week (which ain't yours), so they'd never be allowed to own a stable of cars or have a gang. They'd be 'leaguers.' Dedicated gangers who live only for the bright lights. So no wasteland trash could get into these events. Your 'gang' would be dedicated town events only and vice versa...no scouting gang could enter seasoned wasteland warriors into the leagues. Nobody wants to know your name. Vehicles would be limited in each 'step' of the league/events. No bringing rare McFly's to amateur night races. You get an Idiocracy dildo-wearing Alpha and maybe an engine over a liter. Go at it. As mentioned already, your skill level decides what event level you can enter. up to 50, amateur. 51-100, semi-pro. 101-200, Pro Level 1. 201-300, Sponsored Pro and 301+...Unlimited Pro. Prizes would be gradient...higher the skill, higher the prizes. (Cars, girls, guys for darth', $$) And we'd need actual Arena maps and tracks. Don't know if that's possible. Call it a wish list. But it would fix the whole thing. Like Scav' gangs...you'd have Event gangs. Maybe a new Specialism track? "Promoter?" "Manager?" Southern towns would be like the grooming stables thing. Smaller venues where rookies train their skills before heading to Rome (SS) for the big bucks. And only Sarsfield. Elmsfield or Texan. Badlands and GW are truck stops. They have the bare essentials and that's it. No racetracks or arenas...that's not what they're for. Elms' would be like a farming camp for rookies. Mid level tracks. Nothing major in any of the towns except SS. Just my .02 ......................... vet wv Posted Apr 29, 2020, 12:59 pm

*Synyster Gates* Sleeper Cell N7 Racer Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 200 Joined: Nov 27, 2009 ^ That's the hardest no possible from me. ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 santa2 paintladder marshal ped1 Posted Apr 29, 2020, 6:55 pm

PA Racers PA Racers Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 1,008 Joined: Feb 11, 2010 Joel Autobaun said: PA Racers said: Joel Autobaun said: Revert mini -race leagues (Elms Classic and Gateway Autumn Extravaganza) to 4 single events(20 points each), just like SS Winter warm up. Leave the DR leagues as is.  You can always join a DR and take out competition (like coe).  Racing needs to have all players competing in the same race.  We have a 5 way - bogus tie for Elms classic right now.  That's not right. just as I predicted when this was changed! Well it didnt end up how.i suggested.  Frankly the times before were horrible.  Honestly how many people did you have racing against you on tues/wed/thurs.  Even when dw was light on players...they would show up for sswinter on the weekend. I'm still racing alone for most part in the mini leagues. I miss more of these now being on week-ends. I'm usually at a real race track on the week-ends this time of year. This year being a lot different though. ......................... vet wv ww northernsummer gwextrav gateautumn raceL1 race1 elmsautumn deathrceL1 e2g santa1 paintladder paintball pvp1 pvp4 pvp3 deathrce1 pvp2 combat1 circuit2 circuit3 circuit1 pvp528,161,23 Posted Apr 29, 2020, 7:06 pm

PA Racers PA Racers Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 1,008 Joined: Feb 11, 2010 Also I don't consider winning 2 races to win a league as being much of a league at all really. How about a year long race league being made? More like the mini leagues with multiple times on week-ends, but have to run both races each week-end not just picking one? ......................... vet wv ww northernsummer gwextrav gateautumn raceL1 race1 elmsautumn deathrceL1 e2g santa1 paintladder paintball pvp1 pvp4 pvp3 deathrce1 pvp2 combat1 circuit2 circuit3 circuit1 pvp528,161,23 Posted Apr 29, 2020, 7:17 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Sinbinned Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 PA please just admit you are in the minority on this one. What is a GOOD time on the weekend for you? Hell id take a early morning NA time and that might help Euro players too. Maybe 9 eastern?? Coe is practually year long. The problems of two times are glaringly obvious (to even darthspanky who doesnt even compete). To agree to a common time for a one event/week race league wpuld never happen. We cannot even agree on a 2 week one. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,96,31 Posted Apr 29, 2020, 7:26 pm Last edited Apr 29, 2020, 7:30 pm by Joel Autobaun

Dropdeadfred Main Street Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Subscribers Posts: 59 Joined: Dec 15, 2015 Could just setup separate race leagues with times that work for Europe and another that works for the US? Especially if it's a year long thing ......................... vet wv ped1 paintball0,1,0 Posted Apr 30, 2020, 2:45 am

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