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Damn I wish you weren't so toxic
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Posted Jun 2, 2020, 4:33 am
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I am not a big fan of fluctuating economies in games. They always sound much cooler than they really are; they make it much harder to design for fun; they optimise for a tiny handful of elder game players who can play the market well. (Much like the real world...)

We already have a market system. Adding one to the camps would do something to improve it, but not much.

For a brief moment, we had a lovely consensus that we should add a new mission type to deliver goods to camps for a fixed price. That is about the best way I can think of to start involving players in the camp ecosystem for a sufficient risk/reward to make it interesting.

Then it killed by "realism" and "this should be the miserable apocalypse".

That makes me sad. I was excited about this new mission type for a brief moment.
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Posted Jun 2, 2020, 9:03 am
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Valiance said:
I am not a big fan of fluctuating economies in games. They always sound much cooler than they really are; they make it much harder to design for fun; they optimise for a tiny handful of elder game players who can play the market well. (Much like the real world...)

We already have a market system. Adding one to the camps would do something to improve it, but not much.

For a brief moment, we had a lovely consensus that we should add a new mission type to deliver goods to camps for a fixed price. That is about the best way I can think of to start involving players in the camp ecosystem for a sufficient risk/reward to make it interesting.

Then it killed by "realism" and "this should be the miserable apocalypse".

That makes me sad. I was excited about this new mission type for a brief moment.



I haven't dropped it. Although it is difficult making decisions in a sea of opinion. I'm somewhat concerned about how many camps actually need this though. The pvp ones really need the opposite, mostly (take stuff away from camp) but it's a much harder one to do unless they're simply selling it to you.
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Posted Jun 2, 2020, 9:31 am
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all i know is im not doing this make 17000 cans of gas in shantyville to ship it all to ss again takes over a game year to ship it all, just add 20,000 cans of gas to every town like before so the poor noobs have gas, then looking at the prices drop when i finally start to deliver it to ss, total bs ill just deliver water to fl from a fl camp and make more money alot faster, trying to offer suggestions doesnt work with all the noobs who never understand how difficult it is running thier uninformed mouths.

i tried selling the feul in shanty for 250 a can, got no takers, cant even give stuff away in shantyville no takers on a almost mint trash truck for free, back then they would have made 1k profit from each can, said it was too expensive.
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Posted Jun 2, 2020, 10:10 am Last edited Jun 2, 2020, 11:35 am by darthspanky
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Even with 0 fuel cans for sell in SS you can still refuel your cars.. so why bother?? You need to travel? then make a tanker with a muscle car and a large fuel tank, refill it then you are ready to go.
Just change this mechanic (refilling your fuel tanks vs dollars) and maybe add a little more fuel spawns on traders and maybe we'll start to have a new economy around fuel.
That and the future medecines revamp, is a good way to make the goods something else than just cosmetic items
(again sorry for my english)
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Posted Jun 2, 2020, 4:25 pm
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How about have missions for camp goods be started by camp owner agreeing to sell x amount of goods to town of choice for x amount of $. Then mission appears in purchasing town for someone to accept. Once accepted camp has choice to accept delivery or not, depending on weather they want them in their camp or not. If the camp approves, they put goods on camp market to get picked up. Once delivered to town, town pays camp, and pays delivery fee to courier. Price of goods should pay camp less than what it would have been had they hauled it themselves, and courier fee should be enough to make it worth the trouble, and go up the higher the risk.
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Posted Jun 2, 2020, 6:14 pm
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Camp missions should go to camp members i dont want to be trying to accept camp missions in a town to be told no by players (who are just being asshats)

Why do camps need missions anyway why cant they just agree to it and it be based off trust just like taxis and many other things on darkwind?????
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Posted Jun 2, 2020, 8:04 pm
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I'm not sure that it's for the camps, it's for extra stuff for players to DO besides scouting and racing.
But like Sam said, if the camps don't NEED it, it's not worth putting the work into it.
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Posted Jun 2, 2020, 8:27 pm
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I love the fact that this serious discussion about camp markets and new player missions is for some reason taking place within a thread titled "camp wars is a sick joke".

:cyclops:
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Posted Jun 2, 2020, 10:00 pm
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Sometimes I think you are just in this game for the lols, goat :-)
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Posted Jun 3, 2020, 9:45 pm
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Valiance said:
Sometimes I think you are just in this game for the lols, goat :-)


I always assumed that was why people played games
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Posted Jun 4, 2020, 8:29 am
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I’m just here for all the cool stuff we get to do in the marshals lobby.
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Posted Jun 4, 2020, 1:25 pm
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*Rev. V* said:
I’m just here for all the cool stuff we get to do in the marshals lobby.


Ah man.. that stuff is wild! Sometimes I wish everyone here could do that stuff!
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Posted Jun 4, 2020, 8:35 pm
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*goat starer* said:
*Rev. V* said:
I’m just here for all the cool stuff we get to do in the marshals lobby.


Ah man.. that stuff is wild! Sometimes I wish everyone here could do that stuff!


lol
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Posted Jun 4, 2020, 9:05 pm
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