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*comp112*
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This man here has put all of what i believe in, in one personal little 'story' some might say, now this si what HE wrote/typed/thought of/believes in i was browsing a torrent forum and found this, i seriously stopped and thought about my life after this, this is also my beliefs and thought i should share it with you all

P.S. If it offends anybody here im sorry yet im not at the same time if you get my meaning.

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Beopposed science isn't applicable to things that 'exist' beyond the confines of the universe. It's that simple. Claims of things that violate or superceede the confines & mechanisms of the universe are beyond science.

You can't determine that the mechanisms governing our universe also apply to something that isn't part of the universe. There's no reason to believe that anything but our universe exists, and there's no reason to think that if something does, energy will be involved. Or anything else you can even imagine.

Everything could be contained in a tiny bubble in a sea of molten cheese. I doubt it's the case, but objectively, there's no reason to think it isn't. Science can't cope with the imagination. It's simply not what it's for. Other fields of philosophy can though.

In the post of yours I responded to, you asserted that life without deities was pointless. You didn't state it was your personal opinion, you asserted that it was uiniversally so & I disagreed. You're welcome to your personal opinions, however. Even if they seem a bit on the hopeless side.

Understand this; not all atheists dismiss the supernatural or ideas of an afterlife. Buddhists & Animists spring to mind, and since there's some 1500 organised religions in the world, and innumerable personal religions, I very much doubt those two are the only examples. Never underestimate the human imagination.

Though I am indeed unburdened by supernatural beliefs of all kinds, I resent some git on a messageboard calling my life pointless. I very much enjoy being alive, and I am very damn certain that quite a lot of other people both appreciate me being around, and enjoy the fruits of my labour. That my existence may forever be inconsequential to you personally, does not mean it is so universally. Get your head out of your egocentric little *beep* already.

I never claimed depression & faith had anything to do with eachother. You said the life of atheists & agnostics, was one of dispair. Humans living in dispair are normally called depressed or depressive (and depressing by the heartless bastards among us, like myself).

Why you think belief in deities would improve your life, is beyond me. I make my Heaven on Earth, and try to make sure others can do the same. I love the world to bits, even if I intensely dislike most of the sentients on this planet. It blows me away that I can experience emotions. I marvel when I drink a glass of water, not just because of all the ingenuity that makes it possible, but because of all the chemical processes that makes me like to do it. It's f'ing amazing, and I think you're a bloody great fool if you can't see it.

I don't need a masterplan or universal absolutes. I love the absensce of such things. Our random, unplanned, disorganised, chaotic reality is my home, my pride & my joy. Great monsters roam here, and even the seemingly impossible & magic is accomplished simply by thought & action. I'm addicted to it all.

If there was a Heaven, then this would all be hell. This material realm, with all the misery & grief it causes, and all the senseless violence & callous disregard, would all be the responsible of some f'ed up monster that wants to see thinking, feeling beings squirm & die, before it'll wrap us all in immense joy. Where the f. is the justice in that? How would all our accomplishments, all our love, tears, joys & fears be anything but meaningless diversions for a deamon, is such a thing existed? That Beopposed, is what would make my life meaningless. Nothing in this material real would mean a f'ing thing. Only all our deaths would matter. Any sane parents would murder their offspring, just to skip this meaningless life & get to the joy-bit.

Ack.. People like you depress me. I'll go get a glass of water Wink

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Wow, it must be really easy being you, since you can, quite obviously, disregard the repercussions of being an atheist. Quite the shallow thinker, aren't we?
Arrogant bastard that I am, I not only think that's the first time I've ever been accused of being a shallow thinker, I'm also pretty sure it's a compliment you are far more deserving of.

It's not easy to be me. I live on a planet full of sentients like yourself, and to be perfectly honest, sentients like you drive me crazy. Use your damn brains. They do more than just look pretty, you bloody fools.

But ok. I never really thought all this afterlife rubbish through. That's why I don't understand things like "If free will & ultimate happiness aren't mutually exclusive, why didn't a creator deity just skip the mortal coil bit?" and "If not having a reward to look forward to is despair, isn't Heaven a place of ultimate despair?". i guess I'm silly like that.

As is the case with other "religion is the answer" things, religion doesn't actually provide any sort of answer. It simply provides some small measure of temporary emotional gratification, provided you don't critically examine the implications of the claims. If you do that, you'll see religion roughly boils down to "It'll be better tomorrow lad, just trust me". It's bull####, and it blinds you to how grand this thing we call life really is. This is magic. This is joy. All it requires is for you to pull your head out of your ass & live your life.

... Nevermind. I don't care what you do. Just don't bother me with your irrational ####e. Your brand of unthinking egocentricism & self-induced angst don't deserve my pitty.

......................... marshal vet
Posted Dec 11, 2006, 4:55 am