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Future Skins, Sunrise

JoeR Theusweare Autodueller Renegade Group: Contributors Posts: 340 Joined: Jul 26, 2006 well, if sam and vik approve. they'll probably get a few more details added: fake racing decals, bumper stickers, dents, porn, etc, etc:  my plan is to have 2 similar looking skins for each 'team.'  so, if a max of 18 cars per event is allowed, that's 9 teams.  basically, so that when you bring 2 cars into a game they'll obviously be together.  a few of us have split up the skins, but i'm going to have similar schemes across the board for most cars.  when the missions come out, all of your cars will look the same, no matter what type of car it is.  (well, if that's desired, and can be done with the code.) (naturally, the black and yellow team above would be paired together, and any other cars that're on YOUR team will have a similar number font and color scheme of black, yellow, teal.) ......................... vet Posted Dec 18, 2006, 3:15 am Last edited Dec 18, 2006, 4:38 pm by JoeR

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 I love them!! They'll make a big improvement to the look of the game, great work.. I think you were also working on some for the symphony? I saw a great looking silver car with blue stars a week or so ago, I think..? ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Dec 18, 2006, 3:24 am

JoeR Theusweare Autodueller Renegade Group: Contributors Posts: 340 Joined: Jul 26, 2006 yeah, but i just came up with a good system to work on these, and now those older ones look like butt. ......................... vet Posted Dec 18, 2006, 3:31 am

*Toecutter* Toecutters Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 945 Joined: Oct 31, 2006 Wow! ......................... marshal vet race1 elmsautumn wv Posted Dec 18, 2006, 4:14 am

*viKKing* Skulls And Bones Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,249 Joined: Oct 12, 2006 one word: Excellent stuff Joer. What? that was 3 words? hum... ......................... vet cont zom slay2013 marshal wv Posted Dec 18, 2006, 8:23 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 The bulletholes on the first one are really nice too. I have been discussing with viKKing the possibility of an improved system for ageing/damaging the car textures, and it would be very cool to have these things added in dynamically. The main problem with adding damage 'patches' rather than gradually blending in a single 'aged texture' as we're currently doing is that some of the cars have weird uv maps and they wouldn't work. Also we wouldn't want patches of rusty metal to be pasted onto inappropriate places. The nice thing about the current system is that it requires no car-specific knowledge about locations on the texture and where they map to in 3D. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Dec 18, 2006, 9:56 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Quote: (naturally, the black and yellow team above would be paired together, and any other car that're on YOUR team will have a similar number font and color scheme of black, yellow, teal.) How will that work with cars that you actually own, as opposed to ones supplied by the track? Will you find them changing to different  livery on different events? ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Dec 18, 2006, 10:05 am

*viKKing* Skulls And Bones Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,249 Joined: Oct 12, 2006 Those nice textures would greatly benfit from a simulated reflection system (normal mapping, as used in the water code)... I couldn't resist posting that. Sorry, Sam. ......................... vet cont zom slay2013 marshal wv Posted Dec 18, 2006, 10:34 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Yeah, you can actually add environmental maps to most objects I think (including cars) but I turned it off because it seems to be ignored until you're quite close to the car, and everything was getting a nasty red sheen across it (that's probably only a function of my nasty red environments) ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Dec 18, 2006, 11:06 am

JoeR Theusweare Autodueller Renegade Group: Contributors Posts: 340 Joined: Jul 26, 2006 sam said: Quote: (naturally, the black and yellow team above would be paired together, and any other car that're on YOUR team will have a similar number font and color scheme of black, yellow, teal.) How will that work with cars that you actually own, as opposed to ones supplied by the track? Will you find them changing to different  livery on different events? ha, i don't know.  i heard you were going to figure that out.  i would guess that stock would be random distribution, and perhaps even the custom events.  or first player reg'd gets his/her pick.  i guess if this were the route, it would override the choice of picking a color when buying a car.  don't know, just babbling. i actually haven't looked at the channels on these cars yet.  i82 had an alpha channel that could reflect the enironment.  whiter=brighter, but i never thought it looked very good.  VERY new and shiney cars were the result.  in this game, in this world, i don't think shiney/new fits. the bullet dents might go.  i was trying to think of an age file similar to what you were talking about too.  in the end, i thought that specific things like holes wouldn't work (with the current method), so i was going to redo a test d_file to see if dents and scrapes, as well as mud splatters, would work. ......................... vet Posted Dec 18, 2006, 2:01 pm

Jim Pole Position Racer Renegade Group: Contributors Posts: 199 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Quote: The main problem with adding damage 'patches' rather than gradually blending in a single 'aged texture' as we're currently doing is that some of the cars have weird uv maps and they wouldn't work. solution, fix the uv maps on those cars? might be worth it to allow bullet holes, glowing bits when lasers are firing at, etc. ......................... vet Posted Dec 18, 2006, 7:01 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Yeah, very sensible suggestion jim Maybe someone around here with 3dstudio skills might take a look sometime.. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Dec 18, 2006, 11:11 pm

JoeR Theusweare Autodueller Renegade Group: Contributors Posts: 340 Joined: Jul 26, 2006 here's an in-game pic. ......................... vet Posted Dec 19, 2006, 12:01 am

*viKKing* Skulls And Bones Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,249 Joined: Oct 12, 2006 Cool! Hardened glass windows? ......................... vet cont zom slay2013 marshal wv Posted Dec 19, 2006, 8:33 am

Jim Pole Position Racer Renegade Group: Contributors Posts: 199 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 first thing to do, list which models need their uv maps fixing ......................... vet Posted Dec 19, 2006, 12:31 pm Last edited Dec 19, 2006, 12:32 pm by Jim

JoeR Theusweare Autodueller Renegade Group: Contributors Posts: 340 Joined: Jul 26, 2006 does 'uv map fixing' equal 'changing the properties of the object to accept a different skin texture?' if so: stormer. the skin allocates about a 1/2" square to the body, with the rest being headlight, grill, etc. what would you need first? a skin to set the uv map to? ......................... vet Posted Dec 19, 2006, 1:44 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 joer- No, it's done the other way around: in 3dstudio you re-skin the model, generating a template for painting a new texture on.. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Dec 19, 2006, 3:25 pm

*Speedealer* Fish Heads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 922 Joined: Dec 11, 2006 that's way friggin cool! I'd love to make some skins, but have no techno expertise...but one thing if I may be a critic, ditch the dogma typeface and go with something rougher. I think it's too 'pretty' for the year 2063 ......................... marshal vet combat1 race1 northernsummer combatL1 Posted Dec 28, 2006, 6:45 am

JoeR Theusweare Autodueller Renegade Group: Contributors Posts: 340 Joined: Jul 26, 2006 HEY! back-off, font nerd! (i'll consider it.....) still though, i figured that if they've gotten back up to speed with making lasers, they could at least paint a number on a car without using a rock. ......................... vet Posted Dec 28, 2006, 2:58 pm Last edited Dec 28, 2006, 3:10 pm by JoeR

*Speedealer* Fish Heads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 922 Joined: Dec 11, 2006 sorry, can't help it. Even though the cars cost a bankroll, I just have it my mind that they're no better than demolition derby mobiles. Maybe if I change my perception, I won't crash so much. ......................... marshal vet combat1 race1 northernsummer combatL1 Posted Dec 28, 2006, 6:24 pm

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