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2047 Leagues

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 I'm currently implementing some of the items that have recently been discussed. 1) From 2047, the 'major' leagues (Somerset racing, deathracing, arena combat) will be 4 months long, not 12. 2) Many of the leagues now have sponsors who will give your gang a training boost for the year that you are the league title holder (you'll see them linked from the league's webpage) 3) There will be hardware prizes (chassis and weapons) offered for the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd placed finishers in some leagues 4) All track/arena event prizes will be increased ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Sep 11, 2008, 3:23 pm Last edited Sep 11, 2008, 3:23 pm by *sam*

Alocalypse Advanced Race Labs Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,236 Joined: May 6, 2007 I think 4 months is way too short, especially if there's going to be rare items awarded for winning. I think they could even still stay 12 weeks as long as the prizes are valuable enough or if there were some halfway prizes at 6 months... ......................... vet deathrce1 raceL1 race1 combat1 northernsummer gateautumn elmsautumn deathrceL1 semiprocombat wv cont Posted Sep 11, 2008, 3:35 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 We'll see how it goes Alo... I'm not sure that 4 weeks is too short. It will increase the need to play with other veterans each week to boost your points, and will increase the risks of losing these events. We often see one or two gangs running away at the top of the leagues by week 4, at which time they might as well be finished. We can change it for 2048 if it doesn't work. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Sep 11, 2008, 3:39 pm

Ivan Kerensky Les Loups Gris Autodueller Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: Mar 1, 2008 I do think that 4 month is not enough. That mean a league finish every month and 4 event is a bit low to get after the leader. 6 months would be nicer.... 8 month very good.... I took the current combat league quite late but I manage to earn enough points to reach 10th position... Gimme 2 or 3 more weeks I could have managed better perhaps ......................... vet wv Posted Sep 11, 2008, 3:53 pm Last edited Sep 11, 2008, 3:54 pm by Ivan Kerensky

Alocalypse Advanced Race Labs Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,236 Joined: May 6, 2007 With just 4 weeks I'm also worried about the rarity of whatever items you put as prizes... Still it feels too much could come down to luck and being online for the high-points races over consistancy. It's pretty much guaranteed that you can't win with less than 80 maybe even less than 88 points if it's just 4 weeks and the prizes are upped... ......................... vet deathrce1 raceL1 race1 combat1 northernsummer gateautumn elmsautumn deathrceL1 semiprocombat wv cont Posted Sep 11, 2008, 3:56 pm

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,587 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 My feedback on this... I don't do much racing as I'd rather spend my time traveling between towns. A shorter league WILL allow someone like me the opportunity to jump in on a whim and be more likely to stick around. If I know I have to be consistent for more than 4 RL weeks, I either a) won't bother joining or b) will just do one or two and not concern myself with the league aspect. I think it's a positive. JL ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Sep 11, 2008, 3:59 pm

simonmaxhill Drive Backwards BFFs Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Storytellers Posts: 1,503 Joined: Mar 10, 2008 I like the shorter league schedule. It makes me feel like I could actually compete in a league. I still want the lowest or two lowest scores to be tossed, though, so I can go on vacations and still be in the running. ......................... vet wv Posted Sep 11, 2008, 4:13 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 4 moths is equal to a year game time right? so sounds good to me, even though I have no experience in the matter, and if this gives NPC gangs an advantage. When does it start? ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Sep 11, 2008, 4:14 pm

Alocalypse Advanced Race Labs Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,236 Joined: May 6, 2007 Tinker said: 4 moths is equal to a year game time right? so sounds good to me, even though I have no experience in the matter, and if this gives NPC gangs an advantage. When does it start? It starts next week, 4 months is equal to 1/3rd of the game year, one in-game month is 1 week in real time. ......................... vet deathrce1 raceL1 race1 combat1 northernsummer gateautumn elmsautumn deathrceL1 semiprocombat wv cont Posted Sep 11, 2008, 4:19 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Quote: 4 moths is equal to a year game time right? It's slightly confusing as we're mixing weeks/months in our discussion. 1 week Real Life = 1 month DW-time We're talking about 4 weeks real life, or 4 months Darkwind time for the major leagues. Quote: When does it start? Just after midnight server time, this Saturday. That's when January 2047 starts. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Sep 11, 2008, 4:20 pm

collinsense tennis Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: Jul 3, 2008 the time frame for the league is great. also how much will the first place cash prize be? could it be around 10000 or higher? this way, the cash potential of a race will get closer to the cash value of a scout and also bring more human players into the races. ......................... vet wv Posted Sep 11, 2008, 4:40 pm

Valiance The Vanguards Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Storytellers Posts: 1,175 Joined: Jan 15, 2008 Collinsense, The prize for coming first in the Somerset Combat League is currently $360,000. It's worth more than a scout :-) ......................... vet combat1 wv ped1 northernsummer Posted Sep 11, 2008, 4:42 pm

collinsense tennis Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: Jul 3, 2008 no, i meant the prize money for an individual race. if i were alo, i would worry about the overall prize money. that is out of my league. ......................... vet wv Posted Sep 11, 2008, 4:54 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 I was going to double them from what they are now collin, so we're looking at about 5-6k for a win. 10k seems a bit high? ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Sep 11, 2008, 4:57 pm

Nojj Pale Riders Autodueller Renegade Group: Rules Council Posts: 364 Joined: Jun 26, 2008 5k for a win seems good as it might prompt more people to race. I've been in too many races where its been me vs NPCs ......................... vet wv0,1,0 Posted Sep 11, 2008, 5:04 pm

Dr Mathias Wasteland Extravaganza Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Contributors + IP Posts: 1,418 Joined: Oct 9, 2007 Lets just see how it goes. Its only 12 weeks, right? It can be adjusted after that and none of these changes are going to cause a massive earthquake. If it gets some in-town mayhem going, lets do it! ......................... vet combat1 ped1 wv cont Posted Sep 11, 2008, 5:09 pm

*jimmylogan* MADHAT Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Marshals + Rule Council Posts: 5,587 Joined: Jun 11, 2008 Valiance said: The prize for coming first in the Somerset Combat League is currently $360,000. It's worth more than a scout :-) WOW! I had no idea... I will definitely assign a crew member to that league from now on... JL ......................... vet marshal deathrceL1 wv community combatL1 Posted Sep 11, 2008, 5:18 pm

collinsense tennis Sunday Driver Renegade Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: Jul 3, 2008 10000 might not be too high. my reason being that for the average scout, it is normal to at least get two cars and after repairs, even with the new mean low prices, you can still get 10000 as profit. I did not race much after i discovered scouting because it was really hard to make substantial money from racing. ......................... vet wv Posted Sep 11, 2008, 5:38 pm

Nekojin Cats Laughing Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Contributors Posts: 1,039 Joined: Jan 19, 2008 Looks good to me. 12 week leagues are far too long; if you have anything that prevents you from playing for a week out of that time, you may as well just quit at that point. Not many people have the attention span to race one half-hour race per week for three months straight. ......................... vet deathrceL1 wv cont Posted Sep 11, 2008, 6:38 pm

Alocalypse Advanced Race Labs Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,236 Joined: May 6, 2007 I support the idea of having longer leagues and 2 lowest races wouldn't count. Or changing the system so it's 3 races per 3 weeks (with 3-4 3-week periods during the whole league) or whatever suits people best. For a 4-week league I think something like Northern Summer would work best. If the goal is to get people to race together then this is the best way. It's been said before that the current system discourages racing as doing more than 1 race per week is bad and you end up with a lot less potential joiners for the events because of that. I think my semi-ladder league system idea is the only one that might improve things, but the problem really is that we lack players and tweaking the system will only give minimal results. I think with the short 4-week leagues they will get progressively worse the more players you add because there's going to be more and more ties... ......................... vet deathrce1 raceL1 race1 combat1 northernsummer gateautumn elmsautumn deathrceL1 semiprocombat wv cont Posted Sep 11, 2008, 7:27 pm Last edited Sep 11, 2008, 7:28 pm by Alocalypse

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