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2047 Leagues

t0rp0r Death Unlimited Autodueller Renegade Group: Storytellers Posts: 410 Joined: Apr 1, 2008 I'll wait to see how a 4-week league runs. I think in some ways it's even harder to catch up than in the long leagues, although granted if you have someone that plays every single week and you miss even one week it's much harder to catch up. I would support keeping longer (6-8) week leagues with the "drop lowest 2 scores idea). What I'd really like to see if we do shorter leagues is having the races scheduled more consistently. There could still be some random races scattered throughout the week, but I like the idea of something like "The Big Thursday Night Bloodbowl" ... of course, "night" being relative to time zones. ......................... vet wv zom Posted Sep 11, 2008, 9:04 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Quote: in some ways it's even harder to catch up than in the long leagues Yes, except players don't bother even trying in the 12-week leqagues. They see someone 12 points ahead and figure they're uncatchable. Quote: What I'd really like to see if we do shorter leagues is having the races scheduled more consistently. There could still be some random races scattered throughout the week, but I like the idea of something like "The Big Thursday Night Bloodbowl" ... of course, "night" being relative to time zones. That's exactly what many of our leagues already do though, isn't it? Elmsfield Classic, Northern Summer, Northern Combat, etc. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Sep 11, 2008, 10:53 pm Last edited Sep 11, 2008, 10:53 pm by *sam*

t0rp0r Death Unlimited Autodueller Renegade Group: Storytellers Posts: 410 Joined: Apr 1, 2008 *sam* said: Yes, except players don't bother even trying in the 12-week leqagues. They see someone 12 points ahead and figure they're uncatchable. That's probably true. Having the 2 lowest scores dropped would still help this, i think, because then if someone missed a week they wouldn't immediately drop down 5 or 10 spots in the rankings. *sam* said: That's exactly what many of our leagues already do though, isn't it? Elmsfield Classic, Northern Summer, Northern Combat, etc. From what I've seen it seems like these leagues are "too" limited in the number of events ... and this could be a problem with the other leagues if they are scheduled, now that I think of it. Which is to say, if the events are always held at 6 p.m. every Thursday and you work every Thursday night, you'll never get to participate. A mix of scheduled and "semi-random" events would help, but there's still the matter of trying to determine a good time for the scheduled events that works for enough people. There's no pleasing some people. ......................... vet wv zom Posted Sep 11, 2008, 11:30 pm

Capt. Zeppo The Plisskens Pedestrian Renegade Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: Oct 15, 2007 *sam* said: There will be hardware prizes (chassis and weapons) offered for the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd placed finishers in some leagues That's a cool idea. Maybe the League Badge could appear as a decal on the chassis? As for the length of leagues --  12 weeks can be a little long, but 4 weeks is pretty short. Maybe 8 weeks? Frankly, I think the best solution is the one we have: a variety of leagues, some long some short. Maybe 8 week and 4 week leagues? Leagues need to have a variety of times for each week's events so that there is usually at least one event that falls in a player's time zone; I believe the recent Northern Summer League was like this. A league that is at the same time of day for every event will exclude players from certain parts of the world from competing. This happened to me actually; I signed up for the Gateway Autumn Meltdown League, only to find that all the events occurred during my drive home from work. I feel anything we can do to get more folks involved in the leagues is a good thing. They are an under appreciated part of the game. ......................... vet wv0,1,0 Posted Sep 12, 2008, 12:28 am

Ivan Kerensky Les Loups Gris Autodueller Civs Faction Group: Members Posts: 419 Joined: Mar 1, 2008 If you do 4 weeks long league with dropping the 2 worst score you could just as well do a lottery to choose the winner... And you cripple the player that are in timezone with not many other people because they will only finish the league with 80 pts and no more... ......................... vet wv Posted Sep 12, 2008, 1:02 pm

Alocalypse Advanced Race Labs Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,236 Joined: May 6, 2007 Quote: That's a cool idea. Maybe the League Badge could appear as a decal on the chassis? The current league title holder can already use a league decal on their stock cars in town events. Dropping the worst 2 races is definatley something only for the longer 8-12 week leagues and not for the 4-week stuff. ......................... vet deathrce1 raceL1 race1 combat1 northernsummer gateautumn elmsautumn deathrceL1 semiprocombat wv cont Posted Sep 12, 2008, 1:06 pm

Mad Mike the mad mad crushers Darkwind Guru Anarchists Faction Group: Subscribers Posts: 2,900 Joined: Aug 1, 2007 higher prizes for races and hardware for leagues? wow. i did intown events for 3 months straight to earn 200K before subscribing... now people can do it in half the time, i feel ripped off! Ill be arranging all player races like we did one day, 28 points in one race! ......................... vet wv Posted Sep 12, 2008, 9:44 pm

Valiance The Vanguards Darkwind Guru Civs Faction Group: Storytellers Posts: 1,175 Joined: Jan 15, 2008 Sam, I'm very confused by the leagues. on the main page, they say that they are all running January to December. The Combat league says that it runs Sept - December. We're in January, and it has the only events active. (I presume everything is meant to be game month, not RL month) The Somerset Race League which is meant to be live (it says "Current Standing January 2047) has no events and no entrants. In other words, all of the rubrics seem to be contradictory. What is the story? ......................... vet combat1 wv ped1 northernsummer Posted Sep 14, 2008, 11:13 am

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Quote: on the main page, they say that they are all running January to December. I forgot to update that.. will do later. I have a nice leagues chart kindly made by Dr M that I'm going to use there too. Quote: The Combat league says that it runs Sept - December. We're in January, and it has the only events active. (I presume everything is meant to be game month, not RL month) Hrmm, looks like the events daemon still thinks it's December, I'll have a look at that. Will have to zero any existing combat league points. ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Sep 14, 2008, 11:30 am

Alocalypse Advanced Race Labs Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,236 Joined: May 6, 2007 Now that the leagues and prizes are revealed I'd like to make the following comments: I think most people would rather opt for cash instead of the buccaneers which are offered for a lot of 2nd and 3rd place prizes. There's plenty of other more desirable muscle car chassis that people might actually want (Moray, Osprey, Pike, Flail...) and to make the prize slightly "cooler" it could even be a NPC configuration chassis with junk on it. The prizes for the Northern Semi-pro are appaling, the prizes for the Northern Summer are too good and not relevant to the event (a buzzer is a combat, not a DR chassis). I would switch the item prizes for those two. Giving a Heavy Laser for the winner AND runner up in the combat league is probably too much and doesn't motivate competition as intensely as it could... Otherwise it's all good and this is something that people have been asking for a long time Also can you shed some more light on the training bonuses that we'll be getting from that? It could be a huge motivator to get people who otherwise only scout into the leagues and make it an important part of the game. EDIT: the league schedule on the events page looks nice, but it should have a real world time reference at the bottom (preferably with exact dates). ......................... vet deathrce1 raceL1 race1 combat1 northernsummer gateautumn elmsautumn deathrceL1 semiprocombat wv cont Posted Sep 14, 2008, 4:46 pm Last edited Sep 14, 2008, 4:48 pm by Alocalypse

Dr Mathias Wasteland Extravaganza Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Contributors + IP Posts: 1,418 Joined: Oct 9, 2007 I was a little surprised at the amount of cash offered in some of the prizes... pretty high! I'd chime in with Alo on the HLaser as being odd as 1st and 2nd prize both. I think a normal laser would be a good second prize, or a RGM or CC. Maybe change it up next time, cant show us this stuff and then take it away! By the way I had another dream last night, with a Turin encounter in the wilderness. Something's wrong with me. ......................... vet combat1 ped1 wv cont Posted Sep 14, 2008, 7:45 pm

*sam* The Salthill Sluggerz Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Lead Developer Posts: 16,780 Joined: Jan 19, 2006 I'll tighten up the calcs behind the hardware prizes the next time around. Quote: Also can you shed some more light on the training bonuses that we'll be getting from that? I haven't worked out the details yet. Maybe a job for the DW Rules Committee, if we form it?  ......................... marshal vet deathrce1 paintladder combat1 wv ped1 cont slay2013 Posted Sep 14, 2008, 10:25 pm Last edited Sep 14, 2008, 10:26 pm by *sam*

Alocalypse Advanced Race Labs Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,236 Joined: May 6, 2007 *sam* said: Quote: Also can you shed some more light on the training bonuses that we'll be getting from that? I haven't worked out the details yet. Maybe a job for the DW Rules Committee, if we form it?  Bah, when I noticed the sponsors popping up on the 2046 leagues I was hoping to get some of that for those too. Quote: Maybe change it up next time, cant show us this stuff and then take it away! I think it'd be ok to change anything during the first week at least. ......................... vet deathrce1 raceL1 race1 combat1 northernsummer gateautumn elmsautumn deathrceL1 semiprocombat wv cont Posted Sep 14, 2008, 11:58 pm

4saken The 4saken Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,282 Joined: Jan 1, 2008 ok, i've done two events in SS combat that i finished first in, one before the change and one after, but i still dont see myself as having any points listed, even though i am shown as placed... ......................... vet combatL1 wv1,0,0 Posted Sep 15, 2008, 12:08 am

Alocalypse Advanced Race Labs Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 2,236 Joined: May 6, 2007 Maybe it's worth bringing back quali's for these races, with a long 12-month league your luck with starting positions is likely to even out, but with just 4 you could get a streak of bad ones (not like you wouldn't be utterly screwed if you didn't place 1st in every race anyway). The races are less frequent now and there's plenty of no-league races to do for people who just want to race casually. And yes, I'm slightly bitter about starting last (even though I can't blame my loss entirely on that.) ......................... vet deathrce1 raceL1 race1 combat1 northernsummer gateautumn elmsautumn deathrceL1 semiprocombat wv cont Posted Sep 18, 2008, 8:28 pm Last edited Sep 18, 2008, 8:29 pm by Alocalypse

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