Camp PvP (30 Votes)
Leave it.	36.67% - 11 votes
Scale camp open hours to about 1/4 of usage (A 24 hour camp is open about 6 hours).	36.67% - 11 votes
Scale camp open hours to about 1/2 usage. (12 hours)	26.67% - 8 votes

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Camp PvP, Opening hours and combat schedule

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 *sam* said: Joel Autobaun said: bump 29% got their way (actually people who voted for camps to be open 24hrs just got burned and just PM'd sam to change it) That's pretty much it, yeah. Not that you GAF, right, Joel? I never saw this thread before. Yeah.  I sure wasted a lot of time on the forum.   ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,104,31 Posted Jan 18, 2011, 8:48 pm

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,378 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 Personally I like the change, as the vault almost exclusively has a UK player base. And yes I know. The mean nasty vets at the vault always get what they want. We're terrible people, sorry about that. ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted Jan 18, 2011, 9:10 pm

FireFly Anarcho-Pumpkin Privateers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 5,468 Joined: Mar 3, 2008 Well, to be honest I like the open time change to, I just think the CR change is to low! whats 3000cr,? that's just like 8 buzzers, pfft, that's nothing! ......................... vet wv zom gateautumn deathrceL1 elmsautumn pvp1 pvp2 sssc raceL1 e2g combatL1 santa1 pvp3 gwextrav ww circuit31,18,0 Posted Jan 18, 2011, 9:36 pm

*Grograt* Grograts Grunt Heads Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Marshals Posts: 8,378 Joined: Oct 5, 2008 Joel Autobaun said: *sam* said: Joel Autobaun said: bump 29% got their way (actually people who voted for camps to be open 24hrs just got burned and just PM'd sam to change it) That's pretty much it, yeah. Not that you GAF, right, Joel? I never saw this thread before. Yeah.  I sure wasted a lot of time on the forum.   Never, you keep us amused  ......................... vet marshal wv community Posted Jan 18, 2011, 9:36 pm

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,502 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 3000 really seems a bit low for the larger camps. Perhaps we should propose more of a scaling CR based on camp size? One value for small camp. Another for medium camp. A third for large camps? ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped northernsummer4,17,9 Posted Jan 18, 2011, 9:59 pm

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,378 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 All of that is 4000 CR. Those vehicles are all armed lorries, BPUs, Buzzers, apaches and FTs with a couple of paint buccaneers. 3000 is plenty. (and excuse the red circle, that was there for a different purpose.) ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted Jan 18, 2011, 10:07 pm Last edited Jan 18, 2011, 10:09 pm by *Rezeak*

*Dark Tempest* The Black Legion Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,049 Joined: Jan 27, 2010 No 3000 got put in because a bunch of players decided that being attacked by an amount the scaled to their own fame was far too scary. They bit off more than they could chew and got scared, followed by somehow complaining to Sam and getting in changed in under a day. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 Posted Jan 18, 2011, 10:37 pm Last edited Jan 18, 2011, 11:05 pm by *Dark Tempest*

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,378 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 Didn't see that one coming ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted Jan 18, 2011, 10:41 pm

d0dger an0maly Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 2,502 Joined: Jan 24, 2010 *Rezeak* said: All of that is 4000 CR. Those vehicles are all armed lorries, BPUs, Buzzers, apaches and FTs with a couple of paint buccaneers. 3000 is plenty. (and excuse the red circle, that was there for a different purpose.) And that squad is loaded by one person, as opposed to a joint effort by many people? ......................... vet wv combat1 combatL1 paintladder pvp5 sssc deathrceL1 pvp4 zom race1 semiprocombat deathrce1 raceL1 pvp3 pvp2 ww pvp1 paintball santa2 gwped northernsummer4,17,9 Posted Jan 18, 2011, 11:03 pm

*Rezeak* The Dark Knights Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Marshals + Storytellers Posts: 2,378 Joined: Aug 8, 2009 Me, Nine, Wolf and bastiel ......................... vet wv deathrceL1 marshal pvp2 zom pvp3 Posted Jan 18, 2011, 11:04 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 In the original vote i voted to leave it as it was. I got up at 5am to defend the last attack. i took a half day holiday from work to fight tomorrow in an impossible fight because a nameless child thought he needed an artificial advantage... again. i still think the opening hours should be 24 for full production. I had 31 of my 64 gangers in cars waiting for FF. I am happy to fight him with a possible CR... the cr and time issues are separate.. don't confuse them please I told sam i wanted him to change the max CR of an attack because: a) it is unreasonable to expect people to play mega scouts that last for hours at ANY time. most of us are not unemployed children. we have jobs and families and commitments. b) it is technically impossible to both wage a war and defend a camp if the CR you can be attacked with is this high as you dont have time to move gangers back to the camp simple game reasons. I dont care what time an attack comes.. only that its not done in a childish stupid antisocial sociopathic fashion. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted Jan 18, 2011, 11:19 pm Last edited Jan 18, 2011, 11:23 pm by goat starer

theHumungous Worldeaters Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Members Posts: 687 Joined: Jan 12, 2010 I also voted to keep the hours. Only defend when you can. It sucks if you are based in one spot, but I suppose that's the price to be paid. I have no comment on the max CR, since I mostly use low value myself. ......................... vet wv Posted Jan 18, 2011, 11:26 pm

*Bastille* Raging Scavengers Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 7,519 Joined: Mar 31, 2009 With lower CR it makes it easier for other smaller players to join in on defence, agree with Goat above, I have enough trouble trying to make it to a League Death Rally on time. (I have a rather unpredictable schedule) ......................... marshal vet wv pvp4 zom cont pvp32,12,2 Posted Jan 18, 2011, 11:32 pm

*Tinker* BibleThumpers Anonymous Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals + Contributors Posts: 4,546 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 goat starer said: i still think the opening hours should be 24 for full production. In an RP sense a camp that was opened 24 hours would amount to slavery. Glad the Union stepped in  ......................... vet marshal wv pvp3 zom circuit2 pvp1 cont Posted Jan 19, 2011, 12:02 am

*Dark Tempest* The Black Legion Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Marshals Posts: 2,049 Joined: Jan 27, 2010 As per Joels post in the RC thread, see here the evidence that if you want change to the Camp PvP system, goat is the man to get on your side. ......................... vet wv marshal pvp2 Posted Jan 19, 2011, 12:12 am

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 I don't think goat managed it, he's almost as far in Sam's ####books as I am. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,104,31 Posted Jan 19, 2011, 1:28 am

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 *Tinker* said: goat starer said: i still think the opening hours should be 24 for full production. In an RP sense a camp that was opened 24 hours would amount to slavery. Glad the Union stepped in  Actually in the RP sense, it means you are getting attacked while normally impregnable defenses are asleep. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,104,31 Posted Jan 19, 2011, 1:29 am

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