Pages: << prev 1, 2 next >>

Can a squad get jumped going from camp to town, down south

Kornkob The Dude Urban Achievers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Subscribers Posts: 1,022 Joined: Jan 10, 2010 *Burden* said: What if returns were interceptable, but only if the squad's CR is the same as it was when it went out?  Or interceptable so long as the CR is within 10-20% of original CR, which would allow for some damage from a chaser or terrain collisions.  ......................... vet wv Posted May 11, 2011, 5:52 pm

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 [quote=Kornkob The Dude][quote=*Burden*]What if returns were interceptable, but only if the squad's CR is the same as it was when it went out? [/quote] Or interceptable so long as the CR is within 10-20% of original CR, which would allow for some damage from a chaser or terrain collisions. [/quote that would make sense AAARGGHHH.. stop it QuornCob! ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted May 11, 2011, 7:16 pm

Cadimus Ordo Nox Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 174 Joined: Jan 14, 2011 goat starer said: Or interceptable so long as the CR is within 10-20% of original CR, which would allow for some damage from a chaser or terrain collisions.  [/quote that would make sense AAARGGHHH.. stop it QuornCob! Your cars can be pretty trashed and still be within 10-20%.... as long as you don't have destroyed weapons.  Plus if you salvage a bunch of vehicles in various states of disrepair they still bump up the CR. Allowing a fresh squad to intercept one just coming back from a scout could be a slaughter. ......................... vet wv Posted May 11, 2011, 7:43 pm

Joel Autobaun Joels Bastards Darkwind Guru Deathrace Mafia Faction Group: Members Posts: 4,598 Joined: Nov 10, 2008 Interceptable on return, interceptor suffers 25% CR penalty. ......................... vet northernsummer deathrce1 raceL1 deathrceL1 ww ped1 sssc paintball semiprocombat ped2 e2g gwextrav gwped combat1 paintladder elmsautumn gateautumn wv race1 combatL1 pvp1 pvp5 pvp4 zom pvp3 circuit1 pvp2 circuit2 circuit3 ss2fl67 slay2013 storm2013 geek triangle198,104,31 Posted May 11, 2011, 8:05 pm

Kornkob The Dude Urban Achievers Darkwind Guru Renegade Group: Subscribers Posts: 1,022 Joined: Jan 10, 2010 Cadimus said: Your cars can be pretty trashed and still be within 10-20%.... as long as you don't have destroyed weapons.  Plus if you salvage a bunch of vehicles in various states of disrepair they still bump up the CR. Allowing a fresh squad to intercept one just coming back from a scout could be a slaughter. So the idea is sound but you don't like the numbers.  That should be easy to arrive at then... ......................... vet wv Posted May 11, 2011, 8:20 pm

Cadimus Ordo Nox Racer Renegade Group: Members Posts: 174 Joined: Jan 14, 2011 Kornkob The Dude said: Cadimus said: Your cars can be pretty trashed and still be within 10-20%.... as long as you don't have destroyed weapons.  Plus if you salvage a bunch of vehicles in various states of disrepair they still bump up the CR. Allowing a fresh squad to intercept one just coming back from a scout could be a slaughter. So the idea is sound but you don't like the numbers.  That should be easy to arrive at then... There are a lot of things to consider.  I've had easy scouts where I've been in a good spot and easily demo'd the NPCs.  I've also been in others where I've driven home with a breached side and only a conscious driver.  A scout like that and an intercept by 2 peds throwing rocks is going to demo me. Also there's the increase in the cost to truce with added loot cars. Easiest way to make it fair is to allow intercepts on outbound squads only as it is currently. ......................... vet wv Posted May 11, 2011, 8:35 pm

Jeelz The Dionysian Dozen -CHQ- Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,054 Joined: Apr 30, 2009 I agree with Cadimus. Jumping a squad on return is far too likely to be a one sided affair regardless of how you fiddle the CR. If we are going to implement this, why not do away with CR balancing altogether and just let the interceptor take whatever CR they like and pound the living crap out of anyone. I'd take a whole, unmarred car over 2 or 3 beat up loot cars with twice the CR any day. Besides, this change would do very little to actually increase the amount of PvP, just like the last one. Nevertheless, let's keep the ideas flowing! ......................... vet wv combatL1 raceL1 deathrceL1 paintladder Posted May 12, 2011, 2:53 am

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Once again people who don't remember what actually happened when you could intercept returns and travel arrivals all have an opinion... ill informed... stupid... but why would that stop you putting it out there... after all... giving a voice to morons seems to be what the internet is all about. ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted May 12, 2011, 9:58 am

Jeelz The Dionysian Dozen -CHQ- Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,054 Joined: Apr 30, 2009 I know it must be a pain dealing with people that forget things - but try to give a little latitude. Refresh our memories. How were things back in the days of yore, and why did they change? I may have been around then but probably didn't pay attention to the chatter on the forums, as I had a job back then. I can be swayed with reasonable arguments, although it's made more challenging when I have to look past all the ####in' 'tude that comes with this forum. ......................... vet wv combatL1 raceL1 deathrceL1 paintladder Posted May 12, 2011, 12:50 pm Last edited May 12, 2011, 12:51 pm by Jeelz

*goat starer* Special Circumstances Darkwind Guru Evan Reds Faction Group: Contributors Posts: 10,908 Joined: Oct 29, 2007 Jeelz said: I know it must be a pain dealing with people that forget things - but try to give a little latitude. Refresh our memories. How were things back in the days of yore, and why did they change? I may have been around then but probably didn't pay attention to the chatter on the forums, as I had a job back then. I can be swayed with reasonable arguments, although it's made more challenging when I have to look past all the ####in' 'tude that comes with this forum. nothing happened.... the CR addition of armour is so great that very beat up squads if they got returns got small ones... you could still buy out... frankly if you have really beat up loot you are very at risk from the AI in any case. I remember one occasion where me and someone else caught a Latte / longo return with beat up Fts and they paid out... but frankly that seems reasonable... had they met an AI ambush instead they might have lost a fire truck. This is absolutely the point that nobody wants to hear... when PVP was fully open NOTHING HAPPENED.... people who want to PVP want harder fights.. want to lose sometimes... they are always the same people who champion other measures to make the AI harder. They are exactly the people who do not want to fight noobs and weak squads. Its getting a bit boring repeating this, and it sounds like I am having a go at Sam which I am not, but all the changes were made because one person was behaving like a tit... He was being dealt with. removing the ability to hit returns also removed the ability of players to self police against griefing by hitting the griefer when they were heading home. Its counter productive, ignores why most people want to make PVP easier. I don't know any griefers in this game on the pro PVP side.. there has been some fairly extreme behaviour towards people who argue for easier pvp from the anti side (but even that I have not complained about because it does what i WANT ... makes the game more challenging). ......................... vet wv zom pvp4 cont community deathrceL1 marshal pvp3 pvp2 Posted May 12, 2011, 1:40 pm Last edited May 12, 2011, 1:41 pm by goat starer

The Paranoid Tourist Precipitous Treachery Darkwind Guru Slavers Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,828 Joined: Jan 12, 2007 It would certainly make you reconsider which loot cars to take home. (I'm awfully careful as it is, especially since the SS Militia doesn't seem to like me, much.) A return encounter already pits a person against a group of a similar (greater?) CR. If an allowance for a PvP squad with similar, or slightly lower, numbers were allowed, it would be awfully hard to argue (with me, anyway) why it should be disallowed. ......................... vet gateautumn gwextrav raceL1 wv e2g0,2,0 Posted May 12, 2011, 1:41 pm

Jeelz The Dionysian Dozen -CHQ- Darkwind Guru Mutants Faction Group: Members Posts: 1,054 Joined: Apr 30, 2009 Thanks, I appreciate the replies. I see where you are coming from. Wont hear any more complaints from me about it. ......................... vet wv combatL1 raceL1 deathrceL1 paintladder Posted May 12, 2011, 4:55 pm

Pages: << prev 1, 2 next >>

Powered by MercuryBoard [v1.1.4]
© 2001-2005 The Mercury Development Team

0.1084 seconds - 22 queries - 0.23 load